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Will start reading in a sec, but since it's 4-2 why are we not no lynching? I guess I'll find that out in a bit... | ||
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On November 13 2013 06:09 Sn0_Man wrote: I had scumreads d3? this is news to me. I barely managed to skim the thread lol. When I wrote that post I thought that syl was probably a better lynch than vanesco, based on skim. Seems like a reasonable play as either alignment considering Umasi's obviously town... I considered how it would reflect on rayn and I've decided it doesn't help read him at all. In other news I read Syl and I don't see evidence for him being scum. I don't see any for him being town either though, its kinda messed up. Tunnelling Cephiro ALL GAME LONG seemed reasonable as either alignment. The swap onto "RAYN AND THRAWN SCUM HUEHUEHUE" seems equally dumb as either alignment. This games dum. What, when did I even say rayn was scum? Did you read what I wrote -_- --Rather late, since I haven't been around but D2 votes were rayn/wos -- On November 13 2013 07:10 Sn0_Man wrote: Well koshi was indeed town. People seem to disagree, but at 4:2 the correct play here is to no-lynch. Barring that, Koshi's death means that syl and hopeless are both almost certainly scum. Last night's blue role CAN SAFELY CLAIM NOW since dying to silver bullet merely removes our no-lynch option, which is IMO worth less than a check would be. Plus you will be alive all day today and have a lynch vote. If the blue role claims, no-lynch is no longer an option. Actually, no-lynch seems scary now that I think about a blue-vig possibility. OK. no no-lynch after all. ##Vote: Hopeless1der I guess that explains my previous question. Actually, game state is horrible since there can be the double blue-shot attempt and we'd be down to 2-2(loss)/2-1(lylo) if they hit. I now regret my decision in skipping playing yesterday =[ On November 13 2013 07:28 Sn0_Man wrote: I want to lynch Hopeless and Syl. I don't really care which since they are both scum. Rayn could be (that suspicion keeps getting stronger) but I'm ignoring that since even if he is there must be another scum out there. Literally nobody else can be scum (I have a green pm, you can't be scum, thats the entire thread). The only good reasons I have for them to be scum (apart from EchelonTee and vanesco tag-teaming shit like pushing you day 1, voting me d2, etc) is process of elimination. Any point you can put on me (too lazy to scumhunt) applies to hopeless in fucking spades. Syl has been off in lala land all game apparently thats more townie than having fun with the game d1, doing my best to discuss onegu day 2, actually voting for scum d3, etc... You guys are all so out of touch because scum kept whispering "sno is scum" in the thread till people believed it for NO REASON. Koshi himself said (and he's conftown) that I afk most weekends you can't lynch me for that. Note how he got killed because Koshi was the single person most against my lynch in the whole thread. The evidence was so strong, and the fact he was dodging me the entire game while saying "he'd respond to accusations asap" wasn't exactly helping. @Thrawn re: Hopeless lynch on D2 - my strong Ceph tunnel truly began then. Pretty crippling to my image since I could've spent that time being a bit more open minded, but what's done is done. Tbh: I have nothing much else to present, feel free to ask me questions since it's all I can do to stop myself from throwing the game further. I'll say that between Hopeless and Sn0, Hopeless is 100% more scummy than sn0 considering his 'we've already won' attitude from the night onwards. I'm town and logically the 2 scum would be Hopeless and sn0, yet it doesn't even seem that clear to me that that is the right answer. @Rayn: yeah nah, no lynch no go | ||
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On November 06 2013 04:52 EchelonTee wrote: I think hzflank is a decent choice. My initial impression was that hzflank was slight town because he was doing a lot of planning and public thinking, things that I normally associate with towniness, but that is not super indicative of much. I thought his case on Sn0 was very poor in terms of logic. 1.) hzflank calls Sn0 bad for not mentioning an exchange btwn WoS and gum. This a poor point because Sn0 simply states that he is "not a fan of [WoS's] take on the game"; that could include that exchange btwn WoS and gum. 2.) hzflank claims that Sn0 man is both calling someone scum without a good reason and not following up on it. This is a poor point because says "Doesn't feel like the WoS I've played with. I'll let it develop", which does not sound like him calling WoS scum. It clearly is stating that Sn0 wants more information before deciding. hzflank misrepresents Sn0 here. Sn0's comment on Onegu is null, yet hzflank implies that because it is a joke everything else is Sn0 has done is pointless. I feel that that is a misrepresentation once again; while I don't think Sn0 has been substantive in his posts, just because he jokes around about Onegu doesn't mean everything he's said is bull shit. 3.) I agree that Sn0's post here is weird, but of the three points hzflank makes, this is the only that has merit in my opinion. While I still think Sn0 is scummy (sidelined for the moment), it's not uncommon for scum to make cases on scum (myself on Onegu in Hogwarts). The case doesn't feel right/genuine. While his read on Umasi has decent logic, the vote on Umasi is essentially dead at this point. He has been noticbly absent for quite some time now; he is from the UK though. I think it's better than a no-lynch, and I think there's a chance a decent chance he's scum. ##Vote: hzflank Why is it that when I read his reasoning I can't see this from a town perspective? Case 2 suggests he is simply isolating points based on the quote which is being referred to - since the first quote has a clear undertone suggesting sn0 felt WoS was scummy. Looking at that post, and then seeing he says On November 06 2013 04:57 EchelonTee wrote: I will not be around at deadline, but if a vote switch is needed I should be able to do that by phone. Which doesn't even make him seem like he believed his case, and was simply going with the flow the entire time (hz was equal with him at the time I believe in votes) His switch to gumshoe doesn't really sit well either, it's like he was waiting to see if there would be a scrambled bandwagon to jump on, seeing as how page 3 of his filter he doesn't see gumshoe being scum. That's what I saw from ET's filter. Hopeless as far as I can remember hasn't actually done anyting this game, I'll read his filter in a sec | ||
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Also, doesn't it raise red flags when you read his filter and there's no actual written case against me, it's dumped all on sn0, and yet he votes for me? Potential reasoning: Based on his overconfident behaviour, he's sure he's able to get the final mislynch off before they win which means exposing sn0 doesn't actually mean jack. | ||
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Of course I'm town -_- I just can't figure out if he's trying to bus sn0 but was then given a chance to change votes so he jumped ship to a free win or what... | ||
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On November 14 2013 22:25 thrawn2112 wrote: we've been over this... I wasn't really suspicious of him when I voted. I sorta, kinda was during N1, and at the start of D1, but not right at the end of D1 which is when I voted. the other reason is that I had no reason, i was stoned and didn't care, and thought that if rayn's town I trust him to use blue powers better than anyone else would, if he's scum I truly didn't give a shit, due to being stoned.... :p I can't even argue with that because there is no way to prove if you were stoned -___________-;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; On November 14 2013 22:28 thrawn2112 wrote: what do you think about sn0man? if you're town, at some point you are gonna have to convince us that sn0 is scummier than you, not just hopeless what do you think about rayn's green check on umasi? I'll look at him now, but your wording still makes me worried here. Shouldn't you be saying "you're going to have to convince us that sn0 is scum not you"? why thrawn why -_- | ||
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On November 14 2013 22:33 thrawn2112 wrote: oh and how on earth did you only have a slight null to town read on me? (i'm assuming you meant to type null after slight in your response?) towards town Because you were one of the main people who consistently looked for suspicious posts, but then I guess I had doubts during a few filter dives and saw early d1 cases that made me think "What if we're all wrong" so I had that thought kinda just in the back of my mind the entire time =\ | ||
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On November 14 2013 22:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: In case you are not going to say "i think thrawn is scum" Sylencia that's kinda pointless.. I just think there's still a possibility. That is all. | ||
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On November 14 2013 22:51 thrawn2112 wrote: No. There are 2 scum left. If you're town, say we lynch hopeless today like you suggest. There is going to be a day after that where you will have to show us why we should lynch sn0man instead of you. I'm only asking that you do it now so that we can try to read you. Yes, but the point is if hopeless is scum then we're convincing everyone of who is scum, not sn0 is scummier than me - thus he is the final scum. In any case, it was just the wording. | ||
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On November 13 2013 07:55 Sn0_Man wrote: Problem is i literally just vomited my entire mind after re-reading virtually every post in the thread. I'm quite contributed out. I've laid out everything I have. I'll check in and toss my comments but realistically I've said all I can say. I am not scum. Thrawn is not scum. Rayn is very unlikely to be scum. Umasi is not scum. Hopeless is scum by PoE and since him and vanesco were pushing the exact same agenda for 2 days running. When asked about vanesco et called him "null or very slightly scummy" despite having exactly the same reads. Hopeless continued to sheep vanesco. Syl is scum mostly by PoE since he hasn't managed to even push a scum agenda, just be utterly useless. "Lynch cephiro" -> ceph flips town. "OH jk lynch rayn and thrawn".... yeah. wtf I missed this post before but seriously, where did i ever say "lynch rayn" LOL | ||
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Only thing I can say is that at least half of the town has thought sn0 as being scum this entire game, and there is probably good reasoning behind it. I am just not seeing it. I don't blame you guys if I get lynched, I'll take the blame but that can probably be delayed by 72 hours if Hopeless dies. If I wake up, it'll be ~15 minutes before deadline but no guarantees. Sorry I let the team down ;-; | ||
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