• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:41
CEST 16:41
KST 23:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy9[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple2BSL Season 238Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
BSL Season 23 Bot on ladder screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27! [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague [ASL22] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Diablo IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7109 users

Witchcraft Mini Mafia II - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 08 2013 01:37 GMT
#1017
On November 08 2013 00:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you have anything to say about Onegu?


look at syl's reply

Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 20:41 Sylencia wrote:
##Vote Cephiro

Hopeless is someone I'd be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him. It's pretty vital that that is kept in mind during the course of the day.

Easy enough, nothing's changed since my post about him. OO's reads were pretty close to what I had as a list when he was alive too.

In terms of what's happened during Day 2, stop trying to get at each others throats and go for the more probable targets. Rayn train is dumb imo, he's still townier than a lot of others.


-could lynch hopeless
-people aren;t going up for the probable targets during d2

the serious targets mentioned so far have been rayn onegu and et but they aren't "probable" and the only one he bothers mentioning is rayn?

sylencia why are you dismissing the onegu and hopeless lynches even though you yourself said you could lynch hopeless?


There have been what, 2 or 3 posts about Hopeless, the rest have been a massive 'rayn/onegu is scum' talk. How does that show that Hopeless is a probable target? It doesn't really, since no one is talking about him. In any case, my vote isn't weird at all considering there has been no defense from Ceph and we're already in the second half of day 2. I dunno why this town is so dead.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 08 2013 14:05 GMT
#1097
On November 08 2013 11:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
"nobody is talking about him" is not a valid excuse for not talking about them yourself. if everyone were to use that excuse then nobody would ever say anything

especially when you voted for him last cycle and there are clearly other people in the game who want that slot dead

my vote is going for onegu/hopeless/sylencia this cycle. they can work out which of them gets it


I talked about him last cycle, I have a better read this cycle. I'd much rather pursue that, but no one seems to listen.

Ceph dies, he flips scum, we're all happy. Easy. Thrawn, you don't sound like you have a town read on him (null?). Read his filter again. See it from scum perspective. Does it make sense? It probably should , and you should probably vote him.

Alternatives: Not Onegu, and not rayn. Onegu I have my reasons, rayn I've seen him as town for the majority of the game. Hopeless is an option, since he followed ET, and so is Sn0, WaveOfShadow has posted a good case on him, and I'd back that case.

Problems: I'm only around for the next 2 hours (maybe less, it's 1AM here). I need a reason to believe that Ceph is less likely to be scum compared to any of the alternatives. I don't really see it, but at the same time with the town being so AFK, I need to be on the most likely target else we get no lynch.

Anyone here to discuss?
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 08 2013 14:23 GMT
#1102
On November 08 2013 23:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 23:05 Sylencia wrote:
On November 08 2013 11:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
"nobody is talking about him" is not a valid excuse for not talking about them yourself. if everyone were to use that excuse then nobody would ever say anything

especially when you voted for him last cycle and there are clearly other people in the game who want that slot dead

my vote is going for onegu/hopeless/sylencia this cycle. they can work out which of them gets it


I talked about him last cycle, I have a better read this cycle. I'd much rather pursue that, but no one seems to listen.

Ceph dies, he flips scum, we're all happy. Easy. Thrawn, you don't sound like you have a town read on him (null?). Read his filter again. See it from scum perspective. Does it make sense? It probably should , and you should probably vote him.

Alternatives: Not Onegu, and not rayn. Onegu I have my reasons, rayn I've seen him as town for the majority of the game. Hopeless is an option, since he followed ET, and so is Sn0, WaveOfShadow has posted a good case on him, and I'd back that case.

Problems: I'm only around for the next 2 hours (maybe less, it's 1AM here). I need a reason to believe that Ceph is less likely to be scum compared to any of the alternatives. I don't really see it, but at the same time with the town being so AFK, I need to be on the most likely target else we get no lynch.

Anyone here to discuss?

Scum strategy to post like absolute fucking crazy and put in a lot of effort D1 only to skate by on it the rest of the game?
Seems unlikely to me as I've never seen it before. not impossible, but enough to let him slide for that, UNLESS we plan on lynching him simply for lurking, which I am not necessarily opposed to. I'm all about policy today because on the whole there are too many people playing like shit today who shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.


I don't think they're doing it because they are relying on D1, it's that they're relying on the fact D2 is so quiet, there's no reason for them to necessarily speak up. If I was scum here, 1 post every day and I'm done. You'd live through D2, get a bit of flak when activity picks up but there's pretty much no downside with the state of this town.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 09 2013 01:03 GMT
#1312
You guys are idiots
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 09 2013 03:46 GMT
#1315
On November 09 2013 11:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 10:03 Sylencia wrote:
You guys are idiots

Oh hell the fuck no. This guys dead tomorrow
Sn0 can have another day.


?
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 09 2013 05:58 GMT
#1317
Man, went to bed regretting not fake claiming I checked Ceph, but that was too ballsy and had way too much riding on my read being correct.

Still, Ceph honestly needs to die. Whoever mentioned I was scum and was bussing Ceph - that makes no sense considering I wouldn't set up a bus during N1 and ride it during D2 knowing everyone wasn't even looking that way.

This town is messed up.

Anyways:

On November 08 2013 13:53 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 05:15 Koshi wrote:
Well. I am a man of God normally. But I rolled Acolyte this game. True Story. Hand to God.



If you are godfather...


Does this suggest he checked hz/Koshi N1? I voted for Onegu for WC Night 1, idk if others did though.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 09 2013 08:22 GMT
#1320
Aight, see you in 60 hours when Ceph comes back I guess
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 09 2013 09:13 GMT
#1322
Where did he claim scum? I'm seeing a lot of "I'm town", not "I'm scum".

If you're talking about the way he plays, someone already mentioned that no scum would be so co-operative before the deadline providing every read they have and whatnot.

I thought Onegu was town primarily because I'm fairly sure that quote in the previous post of mine was a subtle blue hint.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 09 2013 09:13 GMT
#1323
(Obviously I couldn't ask during the day because he would've just been shot if it was true)
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 09 2013 09:48 GMT
#1325
Am I missing a reference in regards to baby seals?
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 09 2013 12:00 GMT
#1327
I meant whether or not baby seals is some scum reference or TL Mafia joke or soemthing
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 09 2013 13:01 GMT
#1329
right...
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 10 2013 14:37 GMT
#1418
Was out all day, will be back tomorrow - to explain my absence. Haven't read what's happened except day post.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 11 2013 09:58 GMT
#1463
Even looking at the town vote I'm feeling so lazy because there's such a low chance of 5 townies voting Vanesco there.

Anyways, time to catch up from the night time
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 11 2013 10:17 GMT
#1472
On November 09 2013 04:03 Cephiro wrote:
Syl, get off me, you're wasting your time. Find the real scum instead.

I'll address accusations and questions towards me presented in the thread as first priority, with analysis after. See you soon enough.


I like his following defense against my accusations against him during N1... oh wait he never said a word about it since everyone forgot about it.

On November 10 2013 06:15 Cephiro wrote:
The vote claim thing?

A bit late for that. As well as the way our blues have actioned if my current theory is anywhere near the truth, revealing the votes might end up being more harm, since we don't have many town players left. I reckon there may still be some use if I modified it a little, but I don't see it as a game-changer at this point. There is a lot more to gain from analysis right now.


On November 10 2013 06:29 Cephiro wrote:
.... I never claimed it to be perfect, but it would have been great if people were willing to go along with it earlier. As well as the fact that losing so many town players this far. It's a two-edged sword, really.


Horrible play - he's unwilling to ever tell us what the plan was. He says we should've gone along with it earlier (N2 was the earliest we could've gone with the revealing votes, and we just passed N2...) despite that being impossible.

On November 10 2013 06:46 Cephiro wrote:
My secondary actions would have all been targeted on WoS as well during N1

Action #1: Track Syl
Action #2: Roleblock WoS
Action #3: Normal DT check WoS

My first one got picked.

I don't consider it possible for WoS to be the godfather if he is scum, he would not try to gain towncred so hard as he has the whole game otherwise.



Ok, Ceph claims here. Who actually voted for him during N1. If there's no one, this is obviously fake. Tracking me is such a convenient action to choose from anyways, since no one trusted me during D1, and so obviously I'm not going to have any action. Action 1 would've been Track WoS if we were being realistic here.

On November 10 2013 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
sylencia, i want your read on me in detail.


Post below makes you think you're not reading what I'm posting, yet you've got suspicions of me being scum. Suspicious. You haven't really done anything since you've replaced in. You had this magical list of : Onegu, Umasi, Sn0_Man, Sylencia.
The one you post cases on: Sn0. The one you vote for: Onegu. Reasoning: In case of shennanies. wtf is this?

On November 10 2013 13:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
man wtf is this game....I still want sylencia to tell me what his read of me is, and why the fuck he thinks its his job to berate town for lynching onegu when he did nothing to prevent it or present an alternative.


lol i wasn't even around for the last 8 hours of the day. never was, never am. I presented a clear alternative. Are you even reading how much I am tunnelling?

May as well mention: Onegu, Umasi, Rayn were my N1 votes. (I don't remember why I chose Umasi, but hey)


Posting more, so you guys can go ahead and attack this while I continue on my rage reading
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 11 2013 10:17 GMT
#1473
Hey guys I never said I wans't going to try, relaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 11 2013 10:21 GMT
#1477
Also, is it wrong in thinking the following:

- If we mislynch it's 4v3 tomorrow day.
- If we have town gain a power we will probably lose since it's likely scum hasn't used a single bullet yet, so they can just yolo shot the two most likely people to have a power.
- If they hit, they win.

Game is hard.

Back to reading.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 11 2013 10:21 GMT
#1480
On November 11 2013 19:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sylencia why the fuck would you vote for Onegu?


Because it was so unlikely that he was scum from his self-vote. I had no one listed as being that townie during D1.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 11 2013 10:33 GMT
#1486
raynpelikoneet: WaveofShadow , Umasi , ObviousOne
Sylencia: Onegu , Umasi , raynpelikoneet
Sn0_man: Thrawn , raynpelikoneet , Hopeless1der
thrawn2112 : {Not Ceph}
Cephiro : {Not Ceph}
Vanesco :
Umasi :
Koshi:
Hopeless1der: WaveofShadow , raynpelikoneet , Vanesco

Night 1 Power Roles: rayn, Ceph???, Umasi

Is it not obvious yet?
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
November 11 2013 10:33 GMT
#1487
There's a reason why he suddenly back tracks on wanting people to reveal votes LOL
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
11:00
WardiTV 10, Group B
WardiTV842
ComeBackTV 345
Rex118
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 125
BRAT_OK 47
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 43995
Light 791
Mini 739
GuemChi 664
Stork 316
ggaemo 243
Last 240
Barracks 143
firebathero 109
HiyA 84
[ Show more ]
sorry 53
ToSsGirL 36
soO 35
Dewaltoss 31
NaDa 21
NotJumperer 12
Icarus 4
Dota 2
Gorgc6545
qojqva1670
BananaSlamJamma180
Counter-Strike
markeloff467
x6flipin178
Other Games
B2W.Neo774
hiko643
Lowko372
crisheroes303
Liquid`RaSZi243
XBOCT234
Liquid`VortiX222
Hui .204
Mew2King60
QueenE52
ArmadaUGS41
mouzStarbuck24
Codebar4
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream14027
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 331
lovetv 9
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile121
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1603
League of Legends
• Nemesis2501
• Jankos2108
• TFBlade717
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
9h 19m
WardiTV Invitational
20h 19m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 12h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 19h
GSL
2 days
Yamato Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.