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On November 08 2013 00:05 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2013 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you have anything to say about Onegu? look at syl's reply Show nested quote +On November 07 2013 20:41 Sylencia wrote: ##Vote Cephiro
Hopeless is someone I'd be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him. It's pretty vital that that is kept in mind during the course of the day.
Easy enough, nothing's changed since my post about him. OO's reads were pretty close to what I had as a list when he was alive too.
In terms of what's happened during Day 2, stop trying to get at each others throats and go for the more probable targets. Rayn train is dumb imo, he's still townier than a lot of others. -could lynch hopeless -people aren;t going up for the probable targets during d2 the serious targets mentioned so far have been rayn onegu and et but they aren't "probable" and the only one he bothers mentioning is rayn? sylencia why are you dismissing the onegu and hopeless lynches even though you yourself said you could lynch hopeless?
There have been what, 2 or 3 posts about Hopeless, the rest have been a massive 'rayn/onegu is scum' talk. How does that show that Hopeless is a probable target? It doesn't really, since no one is talking about him. In any case, my vote isn't weird at all considering there has been no defense from Ceph and we're already in the second half of day 2. I dunno why this town is so dead.
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On November 08 2013 11:25 thrawn2112 wrote: "nobody is talking about him" is not a valid excuse for not talking about them yourself. if everyone were to use that excuse then nobody would ever say anything
especially when you voted for him last cycle and there are clearly other people in the game who want that slot dead
my vote is going for onegu/hopeless/sylencia this cycle. they can work out which of them gets it
I talked about him last cycle, I have a better read this cycle. I'd much rather pursue that, but no one seems to listen.
Ceph dies, he flips scum, we're all happy. Easy. Thrawn, you don't sound like you have a town read on him (null?). Read his filter again. See it from scum perspective. Does it make sense? It probably should , and you should probably vote him.
Alternatives: Not Onegu, and not rayn. Onegu I have my reasons, rayn I've seen him as town for the majority of the game. Hopeless is an option, since he followed ET, and so is Sn0, WaveOfShadow has posted a good case on him, and I'd back that case.
Problems: I'm only around for the next 2 hours (maybe less, it's 1AM here). I need a reason to believe that Ceph is less likely to be scum compared to any of the alternatives. I don't really see it, but at the same time with the town being so AFK, I need to be on the most likely target else we get no lynch.
Anyone here to discuss?
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On November 08 2013 23:11 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 23:05 Sylencia wrote:On November 08 2013 11:25 thrawn2112 wrote: "nobody is talking about him" is not a valid excuse for not talking about them yourself. if everyone were to use that excuse then nobody would ever say anything
especially when you voted for him last cycle and there are clearly other people in the game who want that slot dead
my vote is going for onegu/hopeless/sylencia this cycle. they can work out which of them gets it I talked about him last cycle, I have a better read this cycle. I'd much rather pursue that, but no one seems to listen. Ceph dies, he flips scum, we're all happy. Easy. Thrawn, you don't sound like you have a town read on him (null?). Read his filter again. See it from scum perspective. Does it make sense? It probably should , and you should probably vote him. Alternatives: Not Onegu, and not rayn. Onegu I have my reasons, rayn I've seen him as town for the majority of the game. Hopeless is an option, since he followed ET, and so is Sn0, WaveOfShadow has posted a good case on him, and I'd back that case. Problems: I'm only around for the next 2 hours (maybe less, it's 1AM here). I need a reason to believe that Ceph is less likely to be scum compared to any of the alternatives. I don't really see it, but at the same time with the town being so AFK, I need to be on the most likely target else we get no lynch. Anyone here to discuss? Scum strategy to post like absolute fucking crazy and put in a lot of effort D1 only to skate by on it the rest of the game? Seems unlikely to me as I've never seen it before. not impossible, but enough to let him slide for that, UNLESS we plan on lynching him simply for lurking, which I am not necessarily opposed to. I'm all about policy today because on the whole there are too many people playing like shit today who shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.
I don't think they're doing it because they are relying on D1, it's that they're relying on the fact D2 is so quiet, there's no reason for them to necessarily speak up. If I was scum here, 1 post every day and I'm done. You'd live through D2, get a bit of flak when activity picks up but there's pretty much no downside with the state of this town.
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On November 09 2013 11:34 Hopeless1der wrote:Oh hell the fuck no. This guys dead tomorrow Sn0 can have another day.
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Man, went to bed regretting not fake claiming I checked Ceph, but that was too ballsy and had way too much riding on my read being correct.
Still, Ceph honestly needs to die. Whoever mentioned I was scum and was bussing Ceph - that makes no sense considering I wouldn't set up a bus during N1 and ride it during D2 knowing everyone wasn't even looking that way.
This town is messed up.
Anyways:
On November 08 2013 13:53 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 05:15 Koshi wrote: Well. I am a man of God normally. But I rolled Acolyte this game. True Story. Hand to God. If you are godfather...
Does this suggest he checked hz/Koshi N1? I voted for Onegu for WC Night 1, idk if others did though.
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Aight, see you in 60 hours when Ceph comes back I guess
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Where did he claim scum? I'm seeing a lot of "I'm town", not "I'm scum".
If you're talking about the way he plays, someone already mentioned that no scum would be so co-operative before the deadline providing every read they have and whatnot.
I thought Onegu was town primarily because I'm fairly sure that quote in the previous post of mine was a subtle blue hint.
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(Obviously I couldn't ask during the day because he would've just been shot if it was true)
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Am I missing a reference in regards to baby seals?
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I meant whether or not baby seals is some scum reference or TL Mafia joke or soemthing
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Was out all day, will be back tomorrow - to explain my absence. Haven't read what's happened except day post.
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Even looking at the town vote I'm feeling so lazy because there's such a low chance of 5 townies voting Vanesco there.
Anyways, time to catch up from the night time
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On November 09 2013 04:03 Cephiro wrote: Syl, get off me, you're wasting your time. Find the real scum instead.
I'll address accusations and questions towards me presented in the thread as first priority, with analysis after. See you soon enough.
I like his following defense against my accusations against him during N1... oh wait he never said a word about it since everyone forgot about it.
On November 10 2013 06:15 Cephiro wrote: The vote claim thing?
A bit late for that. As well as the way our blues have actioned if my current theory is anywhere near the truth, revealing the votes might end up being more harm, since we don't have many town players left. I reckon there may still be some use if I modified it a little, but I don't see it as a game-changer at this point. There is a lot more to gain from analysis right now.
On November 10 2013 06:29 Cephiro wrote: .... I never claimed it to be perfect, but it would have been great if people were willing to go along with it earlier. As well as the fact that losing so many town players this far. It's a two-edged sword, really.
Horrible play - he's unwilling to ever tell us what the plan was. He says we should've gone along with it earlier (N2 was the earliest we could've gone with the revealing votes, and we just passed N2...) despite that being impossible.
On November 10 2013 06:46 Cephiro wrote: My secondary actions would have all been targeted on WoS as well during N1
Action #1: Track Syl Action #2: Roleblock WoS Action #3: Normal DT check WoS
My first one got picked.
I don't consider it possible for WoS to be the godfather if he is scum, he would not try to gain towncred so hard as he has the whole game otherwise.
Ok, Ceph claims here. Who actually voted for him during N1. If there's no one, this is obviously fake. Tracking me is such a convenient action to choose from anyways, since no one trusted me during D1, and so obviously I'm not going to have any action. Action 1 would've been Track WoS if we were being realistic here.
On November 10 2013 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote: sylencia, i want your read on me in detail.
Post below makes you think you're not reading what I'm posting, yet you've got suspicions of me being scum. Suspicious. You haven't really done anything since you've replaced in. You had this magical list of : Onegu, Umasi, Sn0_Man, Sylencia. The one you post cases on: Sn0. The one you vote for: Onegu. Reasoning: In case of shennanies. wtf is this?
On November 10 2013 13:31 Hopeless1der wrote: man wtf is this game....I still want sylencia to tell me what his read of me is, and why the fuck he thinks its his job to berate town for lynching onegu when he did nothing to prevent it or present an alternative.
lol i wasn't even around for the last 8 hours of the day. never was, never am. I presented a clear alternative. Are you even reading how much I am tunnelling?
May as well mention: Onegu, Umasi, Rayn were my N1 votes. (I don't remember why I chose Umasi, but hey)
Posting more, so you guys can go ahead and attack this while I continue on my rage reading
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Hey guys I never said I wans't going to try, relaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Also, is it wrong in thinking the following:
- If we mislynch it's 4v3 tomorrow day. - If we have town gain a power we will probably lose since it's likely scum hasn't used a single bullet yet, so they can just yolo shot the two most likely people to have a power. - If they hit, they win.
Game is hard.
Back to reading.
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On November 11 2013 19:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sylencia why the fuck would you vote for Onegu?
Because it was so unlikely that he was scum from his self-vote. I had no one listed as being that townie during D1.
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raynpelikoneet: WaveofShadow , Umasi , ObviousOne Sylencia: Onegu , Umasi , raynpelikoneet Sn0_man: Thrawn , raynpelikoneet , Hopeless1der thrawn2112 : {Not Ceph} Cephiro : {Not Ceph} Vanesco : Umasi : Koshi: Hopeless1der: WaveofShadow , raynpelikoneet , Vanesco
Night 1 Power Roles: rayn, Ceph???, Umasi
Is it not obvious yet?
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There's a reason why he suddenly back tracks on wanting people to reveal votes LOL
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