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E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 23 2013 15:20 GMT
#29
/in
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 30 2013 15:58 GMT
#196
I dont agree with JonnyLaw about Vanesco at all. Jonnys' accusations seem forced and I dont feel bad about Vanesco.

I agree with the scummy things about cakeman.

I wonder why Jonny said that a plan to catch scum should be formed but then did not try to form a plan.

I dont like people saying they are town as it is obvious why everyone would say that and nothing is gained from saying it in a written game.

Off topic: What is mafia daily and where do I find it?
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 30 2013 16:03 GMT
#199
I didnt understand http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102&currentpage=9#175this post of Jonny's. Where does poofter dismiss Storr? Poof only wondered why Storr "was so quick to vote for July".
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 30 2013 16:04 GMT
#200
Vanesco is it not obvious that everyone besides you can be scum? The way you describe it does not seem special but normal.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 30 2013 17:43 GMT
#242
I dont think you should consider any out of thread activity as information for this game (only past mafia games). Keep it at that nyx has not posted here for x hours but dont take into account that they posted something else unrelated to this thread.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 30 2013 17:46 GMT
#243
Actually I mean you should not do it, not I dont think you should do it.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 30 2013 17:57 GMT
#245
My posts are my thoughts about the game arent they?
Jonny's and July's posts seem off because they are inconsistent.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 30 2013 19:10 GMT
#258
Not 5 hours but 1 day and 5 hours.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 30 2013 21:17 GMT
#265
Leaving my reasons off the table do you agree with me or not? Why I thought they where inconsistent in my mind obvious. Jonny already explicitly said it about july: They state they only want to make on point posts but dont do it.
and I already wrote about Jonny: They said we should form a plan to hunt Mafia but then dont form one, make a strange remark about dismissing Storr and a forced accusation.

You should not jump to the conclusion that Im not willing to talk (even though it was correct at that time) when I dont respond immediatly. I dont live in this thread.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 31 2013 11:06 GMT
#391
Concerning me:
Vonthin:
"e00E does not say why jonny's accusation on vanesco is wrong" I did not agree with the arguments Jonny was making. I did not explicitly say this but is that not an obvious reason to disagree with something? Before my post Vanesco already pointed things out.. The reason I explicitly wrote is "I dont think vanesco is mafia".
"e00E then hops on the cake scum train without saying why". I wrote about cake in the same post not later and I said "I agree with the scummy things about cakeman". The reasons for thinking cake is mafia had already been pointed out.
"e00E does not give reasons for thinking jonnys posts are inconsistent" You continue to agree with my point but say Jonny pressuring was more important than my point. Your next argument about that town should find mafia and not appear town is irrelevant to my case, I dont know why you said it.
"e00E does not give reasons for thinking july's post are inconsistent" Your argument for me being wrong is that july made 2 posts that were on point at the time of my post. Since July made a total of 4 posts at that time it means you agree with me that 2 posts of his are not on point. 50% on pointness looks in favour of my argument.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 31 2013 11:17 GMT
#392
Vanesco:
"all of e00E's reads are in the form of I agree or I disagree" A lot had already been said and why should I not say when I agree with people. The arguments dont get weaker because someone else said them. Of course it would be even better if wrote completly new reads. My two inconsistency points were new.
"I hide from posting and only answered when you voted for me". I did not feel like posting at first and obviously your vote makes me see you as more serious. Why is it bad to then respond? Also hiding implies im afraid to post because of something (being lynched because I post more?). This is not the case and you should not expect me to immediatly respond. For the same reasons you could think Storr is afraid of posting...
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 31 2013 11:25 GMT
#393
Tehpoofter: Why am I sheeping and what exactly do you mean with sheeping? Is it agreeing to common opinions so I dont stick out? I dont think im deflecting questions.

After all Tehpoofter has the most honest accusation on me. I can see why one would think Im sheeping and Vonthin and Vanesco arguments try hard to look factual but lack correctness as I stated above.

Now I talked a lot about me and less about others which I should do more, Tehpoofter is right in that matter.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 31 2013 12:04 GMT
#394
If only my opinion mattered I would lynch Odin now. A lot of their posts seem so much over the top and look like how I imagine someone very nervous in a real conversation. Also I dont like some of their posts that just distract.
This is not a super strong mafia read and I know we have to get a majority and I will most likely be able to be reading the thread near the deadline

Btw I cant help but read Odin's post where every new sentence is a new line like poem and it makes them sound funny in my head.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 31 2013 19:43 GMT
#476
At this point I feel like I will get lynched because I got the initial votes nearing the dead line and people signing off with them. If you are going to vote for me because you just want to have somebody lynched Id like to remind you that a few people could be the target of this vote and the votes on me really started with the accusations on me that I disproved (at least no one said otherwise after I posted my statements about them).
I believe other players could still get lynched and if you vote you should conscious of the fact that is just a "bad feeling".
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 31 2013 19:53 GMT
#483
As I said I will be around for now and I already said who I would like to lynch the most so I dont feel like my vote is important right now, but here it is:
##vote: OdinOfPergo
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 31 2013 20:11 GMT
#495
Not an offical vote count, I just compiled it from the last one and there might be errors:
July617: StorrZerg, cakemanofdoom
Vanesco:
nyxnyxnyx:
E00e: Vanesco, Tehpoofter, onlywonderboy
StorrZerg: Obzy, Balla24
cakemanofdoom: OdinOfPergo
Tehpoofter: July
OdinOfPergo: JonnyLaw, e00E, nyxnyxnyx
JonnyLaw: Balla24
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 31 2013 20:13 GMT
#497
Vanesco said they will be back before the vote ends and Id like to know if they are still voting for me after reading my defense on their accusation.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 31 2013 22:38 GMT
#570
July that is not what was said. Of course if you knew 100% that someone is useless town you would not lynch them but if someones is 50% useless town and 50% mafia lynching them is not bad. And you say 3 dead town as if that is a fact that there is a SK and that they will kill a town...
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 31 2013 22:43 GMT
#573
July had 6 votes in the last count and Vanesco voted them after. Yes.
Im falling asleep and will leave in the next 20 minutes.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 01 2013 09:19 GMT
#726
Odin, I said I would vote on you before Jonny made his accusation. I then voted not because of Jonny but because of my own reasons when Balla asked me to. My reasons for your were not a simple misunderstanding. I left my vote on you because my opinion did not change and it enabled the possibility to lynch you.
If July was missing one vote and no one else was near being lynched I would have changed my vote to them.
I tried to convince people by refuting the two accusations on me. Remaining was a bad feeling about me which I did not believe I could change that day, but the next day.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 01 2013 17:26 GMT
#744
I dont think Jonny is mafia. He makes some bad arguments and takes part in pointless discussions but his anger seems genuine and he puts out information.
I feel like Mafia would have pushed for me and July. One of the people who did that is Vonthin. I still dont like their accusation one me and it looks like they tested out who could be lynched the most easily out of July,Odin,e00E.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 01 2013 17:36 GMT
#746
I also feel a bit suspicious of Vanesco. I know they appear town to most people but is just a feeling that I got and I might be biased due to them attacking me. Something I noticed is that Vanesco has not written once about Vonthin which might indicate a connection there.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 01 2013 17:44 GMT
#748
I had a mafia read because of Odin's writing style which they explained with intoxication etc. This has changed. Odin is writing more precise and polite, and just a tiny bit over the top. So that argument is not valid anymore.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 02 2013 10:08 GMT
#841
I just read that by Vonthin and wanted to clarify: 'He made posts where he says things like "if only my opinion mattered"'.
I meant "if only my opinion mattered" as in if my opinion was the only thing that mattered and not as in I want my opinion to matter more. The if is not related to the only.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 02 2013 15:40 GMT
#846
Why are you against Vonthin as a possible lynch candidate Storr? It is just not clear to me from what opinions you and they generally had.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 02 2013 19:02 GMT
#856
@Vonthin
The first part of your post is just factual from your point of view. So the things that is left is that I use my feelings more than reasoning in accusations. This is correct. I have a hard time finding evidence but I do get scummy feelings about other players. I should try to find out why exactly I get these feelings but it is not easy.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 02 2013 20:42 GMT
#888
Cakeman's last 12 posts or so seem strange to me because I feel like there is a conclusion missing. There are a lot of questions and responding posts to other people but the only pattern I see is pushing Storr and nothing is really done with the information cake receives.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 03 2013 11:27 GMT
#961
Odin: "You're going to lynch one of our biggest townreads to see if he's lying about getting RB'ed? " . You did not read everything Storr said. Storr later said "I SEE NO POINT IN LYNCHING HIM (balla) TODAY".
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 03 2013 11:29 GMT
#962
...And same goes for me in the same paragraph you later acknowledge that Storr said that.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 03 2013 11:50 GMT
#963
@Odin
Your Jonny case at first looked like you brought it up just because Jonny wanted to lynch you earlier and not because there is a real reason, but I like your conclusion "You raise hell, wiggle and worm your way back into people null/town reads somehow.".
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 03 2013 12:10 GMT
#964
I dont think Vonthin was deflecting of Jonny. The case on owb is a bit long for the conclusion but correct and bringing up new cases does not have to be a deflection of old cases. I does not look like there is an intention to forget Jonny.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 03 2013 23:16 GMT
#1058
I want to lynch Vonthin or OWB. I think they are different alignments so the lynch will tell us about the other.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 03 2013 23:20 GMT
#1060
Right now I am deciding which of them.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 03 2013 23:31 GMT
#1066
I think lynching poofter is better than lynching no one but I would prefer onlywonderboy. I will check this thread for the next 30 minutes.
##Vote: onlywonderboy
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 04 2013 09:00 GMT
#1215
I dont mind doing the interaction thingy about me myself but if you really want Storr to do it I'll pass.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 04 2013 09:08 GMT
#1216
Actually I wrote it up now, I can post after Storr to compare.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 04 2013 17:29 GMT
#1218
Poofter -> e00E
Asks Nyx why they voted for e00E instead of other lurkers like July,Odin.
Says they liked e00E at first because e00E was agreeing with them but understands why e00E is getting votes and thinks e00E sheeps a lot or deflects questions.
Votes e00E with the above post and asks e00E to provide logical reads and start helping town. It is the third e00E vote after Vanesco and Vonthin.
Agrees with e00E that the voting pattern on e00E is bad and that lynching them would be too easy which reads town. Also likes e00E's new posts especially the accusation on July.

e00E -> Poofter
Says Poofter's accusation was better than Vonthin's and Vanesco's, but does not agree that he is deflecting questions.
Next interaction is from the last day:Says poofter is better than no lynch, but would prefer onlywonderboy because owb and Vonthin are different alignments.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 05 2013 16:30 GMT
#1427
I just checked this thread and I did not read through all the posts but I WAS ROLEBLOCKED.
This could mean I was very right about something earlier and Mafia thought I was cop, but did not want to kill me because they thought I might be lynched.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 05 2013 20:58 GMT
#1471
There have been a lot of posts and I dont have anything new to add right now. I will probably reread everything since the day started and if something stands out I might post about it in real world tomorrow.
As I said yesterday I would still lynch OWB and I still feel like he is not mafia with Vonthin. Since he was seen as scummy by a lot of people and a lot was written about him I hope it is okay if I just vote for him at the moment.
##vote: onlywonderboy
Could someone shine in on why they think I was roleblocked? I believe mafia would do that if they thought I was cop, but if they thought I was cop by a scum read of mine they would have killed me so I could not post about it. So it must have come from a town read of mine but that only really about Jonny , right? So they kill what they think was confirmed town and rb the potential cop?
If that is true then no information is gained through the RB for us though....
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 05 2013 21:00 GMT
#1472
*****but that could only really be about Jonny
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 08 2013 09:26 GMT
#1725
You need to roleplay your nickname more nyx!
Odin will always be writing poems to me.
GG
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
November 08 2013 23:45 GMT
#1735
Thanks kitaman!
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