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StorrZerg
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On November 04 2013 02:37 nyxnyxnyx wrote: ^ if anything this is solid evidence for StorrZerg being scum Is around when my post goes live still has not said anything helpful for town the kind of person scum is, Be around, don't contribute unless needed | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
often its hard for me to judge between bad and scum. Since scum are trying to get people lynched on "things that are not there" Scum know who town are, and they have to try and convince town that person is scum. It is far easier to sheep, than come up with your own original reads, which you know are wrong. All town players are in the dark, we don't know who anyone is, and this is a game of lies and secrets. we all get bad reads sometimes, but that's life. Example, look at july. Before the vote passed. He was a good lynch, he seemed to "fit the bill" and the "town" (yes i say town, since the Majority of town voted 9 out of 13) Thought july was a good lynch. Obviously my read on him, was wrong in regards to him being scum. However i still feel, he was playing bad town. Also look to the vote, look as to why july started to take off. We had E00e, and Odin. Odin who i have said is a pretty good town read today, however losing points because he has miss read my posts and is making an attack on nothing (this is a bad town thing to do and it is also a scum thing to do.) | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:44 cakemanofdoom wrote: Wait.. that post came really fast after Storr's. So I'm guessing nyx is lurking more than he posts or something? ding ding ding... | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:58 cakemanofdoom wrote: Storr, just calling people sheep doesn't excuse you from suspicion. I never said it did... Why do you bring this up at all as an "attack" I say attack, because i don't know any other way to read it. But anyways, the main argument against you so far has been your uselessness, which you're only just starting to change by directly accusing nyx of being scum. There isn't that much room for original arguments when the target in question is just sitting around being not helpful. Useless as a "scum tell" seems pretty ambiguous in this game. Sorry if the only way to be "Useful" in mafia is to say "your scum" yeah i call bull on that too. I assume the latter part is directed at me, for your inability to form your own opinions. I have posted a fair bit, and imo contributed far more than your making me out to be. So again, stop sheeping Cake. you just keep moving down and down. Though I think I was the first/main one to say that your guiding the town rather than finding scum is scummy, since it should be much easier for scum to make some common-sense posts about town direction. And compared to other useless people, I think you're among the top because you've been making the most posts, meaning you're doing the most blending in and trying to seem helpful even when you weren't being very productive. Sorry that im trying to actively contribute between doing other things? Honestly pushing common sense is a null tell. I'd do it as town, Scum, SK, Blue. W/e I do it in RL and Video mafia as well. Can't tell you how many times i've scene people go off on the wrong thing, or lynch the wrong person because the common sense wasn't pointed out. Yeah and the last part, your looking for something thats not even there. Not to mention that's a weak reason to lynch someone. Cake your basically saying "storr your trying hard, your not actually doing anything, there are other useless people not trying hard, but because your trying hard you should be lynched" Do you see how stupid that sounds? Anyways, now that you've actually called nyx scum I'll look into that and reevaluate you a bit. Honestly i should be happy your re-looking me right? Well i can't say that makes me feel any worse or better, considering your falling lower and lower into scum zone. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
On November 04 2013 03:06 nyxnyxnyx wrote: 1. you say i latched on to a vote on you, yet you deny that the vote has popular traction. which is it? I say you latch, because you say so yourself that you think the vote has popular traction. That is you latching on. I deny the vote has traction, because no one else has slapped their vote down. Many others are pushing more than one person as well. You are not. 2. you claim to not want to lynch me even though you really want to, then you proceed to make a case for it. why? Read other filters, did not find anyone better to lynch over you. So now i want you lynched. 3. your 5th point is basically saying you want to lynch me for not being too active, even though you concede that i tend to not be active anyway, based on previous games. Sure, but i also explain why i think your play this game is different than your last game. 4. "So now i ask the rest of town. Why would you want a player like this in your game? Why would you want this inactive sheeping player that adds nothing to town. This play feels like mafia to me, and I want to remove it." so basically, 'not scum, but please lynch this guy!!!' No basically your playing like scum, so i want you gone. 5. "he feels like a different player this game..." cool, i'm not the only one to have feels Yeah, your last game was town, you feel different, i am reading you as playing differently, i am reading you as being scumy and trying to sheep your self this day. You literally have done nothing this day besides throw out sheeping accusations on myself. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
On November 04 2013 03:25 cakemanofdoom wrote: As for you Storr... the nyx case seems to be based purely on the bad posts he made against you. Sensible thing to do, but it doesn't change the fact that just about the only people you've talked about are the people you were directly asked about or the people who've made posts about you. Plus imo it took way too long to prod you into finding scum. Basically, the nyx post doesn't do that much to change my opinion of you (though if you're wondering, it's improved). Not sure what you can do right now to completely clear yourself in my eyes. Well, I've said about everything I wanted about you. I'm happy with a lynch on you today, but if you avoid a lynch and continue being helpful I might seriously revise my thoughts on you. . Bad pints against myself, and other scummy behavior as well yes. You realize nearly everyone has asked me to say something, or have said something about me... A bad point your bringing up. "Took to long" Sorry if my approach to the game is different than yours.... on the note of "taking to long" Yeah lets just disregard half the town now because they have been inactive on Halloween. People live outside of this game cake, and im not one that usually cares to bring my RL into this game. I have reasons for being "inactive" and sometimes other people have pointed out why i am "inactive" How about you stop looking at arbitrary crap that has nothing to do with scum or town. I prefer to post, and do things in the game, rather than explain my inactivity from outside events. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
On November 04 2013 03:32 nyxnyxnyx wrote: dat b sum fine circular logic you still got over 5 hours today to actually post something... and since the post is quite long, i have no idea what your referring to. | ||
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StorrZerg
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StorrZerg
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as for making my posts easier to read with defense and attack, i can try to do that in the future.. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:54 LoneMeow wrote: JonnyLaw (1): onlywonderboy (2): Vonthin, Obzy StorrZerg (1): nyxnyxnyx Vonthin (1): Balla24 nyxnyxnyx (1): StorrZerg Not voting (5): Tehpoofter, onlywonderboy, E00e, JonnyLaw, cakemanofdoom So we need 6 to lynch, closest being OWB. and 4 others with 1 vote including myself. We have 5 who have not put down there vote. I suggest they not put their vote down on someone new, unless you have a very very good case i doubt we will be able to get enough people to vote that person. It is also very likely we will not get enough votes to put on anyone today. I want a lynch to happen, and i have said i believe nyxnyxnyx is the best lynch today, and that i would lynch OWB. I really urge people to start putting down there votes sooner rather than latter. | ||
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StorrZerg
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On November 04 2013 04:43 Balla24 wrote: I think both nyx and OWB are silly lynches... they're both similar to july (pre-july-defense) that I can't get a full read on them... their plays are erratic and I can't see a reasoning for them. They aren't pushing anyone hard. If it ends up being one of them I would rather go with OWB as a feeling over any substance, but I think they are both bad lynches. Would much rather lynch Vonthin/Poofter (I put these two together since I see them on a similar level almost), Storr and finally Jonnylaw as my last lynch target. Would appreciate it if everybody put their votes down though... there's only like 5 hours or so left and half of us haven't voted... instead of saying silly lynches. Why don't you post a defense for them? or explain why they are town. On the note that you cant' get a full read on them, do you think you would be able to get a full read on them if they continue with how they are playing? | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
On November 04 2013 04:54 cakemanofdoom wrote: Addressing Storr: I was kinda buying this for a while, but I can't say I agree with this much in the end. Yeah, you can do other things in mafia that are helpful, but nothing's on the same level as finding scum and accusing them imo. Town wins by killing the mafia. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
btw no duh town wins by killing mafia. And saying right now that im not scum hunting is a blatant lie. You have said, i have taken "too long" to make my reads" I have given an opinion on pretty much every person in this game so far. You are not attacking my reads at all, you are attacking me because i was "slow" to come up with them. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
On November 04 2013 05:29 Balla24 wrote: I don't feel it necessary yet... I somewhat defended them anyways. Why don't you post a defense on the other lynch targets? first i need to defend myself from cakes bad accusation... and then ill defend tehpoofter and if i have time work on von | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
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StorrZerg
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Yup, you'd push your common sense as any alignment. So why not do something towny if you're town? I don't think you were so busy as to be unable to be town for so long after the game started, especially if you were able to post your common sense. Even Odin was able to form some opinions on people, and his rl looks like a total mess. again i have posted.. so what if it took me time to form opinions. lynching me for being slow is bad... Now, we can debate over whether or not you were fake contributing or actually contributing. I maintain that almost all your contributions throughout the game were "fake" and designed to make yourself look good rather than help town win. I'm not sure I can go into this part more than I already have. idk how to defend myself from this... im town... i'm being honest with everything i've said... Too many of your posts had gone by without you doing the most important thing: catch and push lynches on scum. Meanwhile, those posts would have been really easy for scum to make to look good; you yourself say that you'd make those posts regardless of alignment. You ended up following town on July day one, before going back to your common sense posts. But i have posted about catching and lynching scum. Just because the majority of my posts are not "lynch this person" does not make me scum. I followed july day 1? Did i not start the vote? Did i not pressure him when his defense was weak? I didn't move my vote, because there was no other option to secure a lynch. You sir are wrong on the july comments... | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
Now, you're pushing nyx. I had thought he was too nooby to tell if he's scum or just noob town. I'll admit, with his recent posts his lack of explanation is really grating on me. Regardless of his alignment I want more, though I'd imagine the mafia qt would shout at him to stop making posts lacking in reason? I am getting more comfortable with a lynch on him, though I think there's still too decent a chance that he's just being nooby. I like that you push him, though, and that you've stated a solid opinion now. Or they are telling him to be quiet, and just slide by. very good chance he won't be lynched that way since to many people are saying they want more.... And no one else has voted him... why should he post? And now you voted me, so that takes even more pressure off him | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
On November 04 2013 06:46 JonnyLaw wrote: Owb you really should look at poofter. He's scummier to me at this point. I'd rather stay with him than move onto Von, but if it's an option that will go through I'm okay with that idea. @storr that's a great point about nyx but he's been getting that pressure all game. Do you think he's playing differently since the start? Honestly at the start of the game, he was doing better, at least "trying" imo. right now, he was obviously on line when i posted. Which imo means he has been reading the thread and lurking with out actually wanting to provide content. | ||
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