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On November 05 2013 03:12 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 02:56 Asinine wrote:On November 05 2013 02:48 Laughing Jack wrote:
Asinine,
If you're town, why are your reads so useless and shallow?
Why haven't you been active?
That you defended fuba is scummy, and yes scum does that and use the exact argument you're using to play it off.
if you don't want to die you're going to put in some serious fucking effort today. This is clearly a matter of opinion on your part. My reads haven't been useless or shallow. If I recall, you too thought hzflank was scum on Day 1. Is it not hypocritical of you to vote someone who has agreed with you for the majority of the game? I've already explained my lack of activity. What is with these questions? Are you trying to antagonize me? These questions serve no purpose. Of course I won't think my reads are useless or shallow. That is a presumptuous bait. Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 02:45 Asinine wrote:
I'll try to be more active but today is quite a busy day. If I survive the lynch, I'll be extremely active tomorrow. Just filter me and follow Pandain to victory.
Two of tehpoofter/bereft/laughingjack are scum. I don't know which ones, but I'm going to defer to Pandain's judgement here.
##vote: Bereft Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 02:47 Asinine wrote:On November 05 2013 02:45 Mig wrote:
Asinine who do you think the mafia are?
Outside of that previous circle I mentioned, I could see JJD/Stutters/Odin/Hopeless possibly being scum.
Let us review. The Player list for this game: Red = known scum Green = known/almost confirmed town Bold = people Asinine thinks could be scum Blue = people Asinine does not consider for possible scum -
Oatsmaster
- Mig
- mkfuba07
- OdinOfPergo
- Tehpoofter
- Stutters695
- Pandain
- Hopeless1der
- Bereft
- Asinine (By default)
- Grackaroni
- JarJarDrinks
- LaughingJack
- hzflank
So once more for those that don't feel like counting, Asinine has rattled off 7/14 players for scum where 3 are already dead, 1 is almost confirmed town, 1 is himself and 1 is the guy he's currently attempting to curry favor with. That gives him a pool of 8 players to identify the scum from. He's fingered 87% of the player base as "possible scum". Explain to me again how your reads are meaningful and fleshed out, because I dont see it Asinine. You do not deserve to live in this game any longer.
You've never even addressed my reads at all. You are pointing out meaningless shit right now. I've already said 2/3 scum are in Bereft/LJ/Tehpoofter. These are my scum reads. In the event that both are not in that group, then we should look in that secondary group. I never said they were all equally likely to flip scum.
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Asinine, when you get a moment can you please look at my giant post on you? Obviate I've assumed quite a bit about your actions, but I would love to hear your thought process behind the things I brought up. Especially:
Why did you not comment on the meta portion of the case on Fuba?
Why was I one of your two mentioned people to check into after the lynch, yet you never actually checked into me?
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On November 05 2013 03:14 Pandain wrote:
Asinine I would feel more comfortable and therefore be more pro-active trying to save you if you told us your real ID since you'll get lynched anyway
I'm not going to reveal my TL ID just because you want it. That defeats the whole purpose of smurfing. The fact that I am town is clearly evident in my filter. If people cannot see it, it is because they are scum or they are not reading my filter. They will be punished after I flip.
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On November 05 2013 03:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Hopeless, you said earlier that Stutters could be a possible teammate for Asinine. Do you really think that's likely considering his interactions with the flipped scum? I remember in Hogwarts you narrowed in on all of the our house's interactions with Pandain and determined that Holyflare was the hufflescum.
I didnt really use Pandain as an anchor to compare filters against that game, HF was the scummiest looking of our house based on actual content and actions in the game.
Quite frankly, Asinine looks like scum and I think we are in the situation that Mig has described where scum is banking on Asinine looking so scummy that doubt seeps into our minds wondering why isnt anyone trying to contest his lynch and we just agree to lynch elsewhere. I don't know who his scumbuddy is, and it does not matter. I don't need to lynch his partner to win. However, I do need to lynch Asinine so that this game can move forward. If he manages to flip town, we are still ridiculously better off without him. He is like the embodiment of scum right now. He's cancerous and prohibitive to any constructive discussion while he is around.. Remove him.
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On November 05 2013 03:19 Stutters695 wrote:
Asinine, when you get a moment can you please look at my giant post on you? Obviate I've assumed quite a bit about your actions, but I would love to hear your thought process behind the things I brought up. Especially:
Why did you not comment on the meta portion of the case on Fuba?
Why was I one of your two mentioned people to check into after the lynch, yet you never actually checked into me?
1) I don't remember a meta case on fuba. Can you link it to me?
2) Because there are more pressing matters at hand and I have limited time. Before looking into you, I have to defend myself and push my top 3 scum targets in Bereft/LJ/Tehpoofter.
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lol let's not go too far Asinine. Regardless of how your filter may look you are still a smurf who is likely capable of playing a decent scum game and you were the only one loudly pushing a scum agenda. (Making sure the lynch was on hzflare rather than fuba)
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I'm just curious. To all those voting me, who exactly is my teammate? Do you really think my teammate would throw me under the bus when its just me and him left in this game?
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On November 05 2013 03:10 Asinine wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 03:09 JarJarDrinks wrote:On November 05 2013 03:06 Asinine wrote:On November 05 2013 03:01 Stutters695 wrote:
Asinine, what changed between the immediate aftermath of the Fuba lynch and when you disappeared that made me go from (as far as I can tell) one of your top suspects to just I could be scum? I thought you had voted fuba after his lynch had gained a decisive majority. After I realized I was wrong, I downgraded you to only possible scum. So then whet did you mean by this post from right before the flip? On November 02 2013 08:51 Asinine wrote:
That Stutters vote is soooo suspicious if fuba flips town. Let's not forget that post. Yeah, read my posts after that post... I did and can't figure it out. Please answer my question directly. What did you think was suspicious about stutters vote ?
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On November 05 2013 03:28 Asinine wrote:
I'm just curious. To all those voting me, who exactly is my teammate? Do you really think my teammate would throw me under the bus when its just me and him left in this game?
You're suspicious enough to the point where we can't rule it out.
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On November 05 2013 03:20 Asinine wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 03:14 Pandain wrote:
Asinine I would feel more comfortable and therefore be more pro-active trying to save you if you told us your real ID since you'll get lynched anyway I'm not going to reveal my TL ID just because you want it. That defeats the whole purpose of smurfing. The fact that I am town is clearly evident in my filter. If people cannot see it, it is because they are scum or they are not reading my filter. They will be punished after I flip.
No, it's not evident. If you get lynched, only extra-meta thoughts could save you and not your own play. You've played poorly but not only that, you've played scummy. And you've played poorly when it had a huge role.
If you can't reveal your ID, then I can't justify your play because your a smurf.
The fact you won't reveal your ID(which I thought would be used for your benefit and not for ours so we can "analyze better"[what?]) is unfrotunatley enough icing on top.
Town won't lose even if you're town, but if you are town I'm sorry for the bad luck then.
##Unvote
##Vote Asinine
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On November 05 2013 03:29 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 03:10 Asinine wrote:On November 05 2013 03:09 JarJarDrinks wrote:On November 05 2013 03:06 Asinine wrote:On November 05 2013 03:01 Stutters695 wrote:
Asinine, what changed between the immediate aftermath of the Fuba lynch and when you disappeared that made me go from (as far as I can tell) one of your top suspects to just I could be scum? I thought you had voted fuba after his lynch had gained a decisive majority. After I realized I was wrong, I downgraded you to only possible scum. So then whet did you mean by this post from right before the flip? On November 02 2013 08:51 Asinine wrote:
That Stutters vote is soooo suspicious if fuba flips town. Let's not forget that post. Yeah, read my posts after that post... I did and can't figure it out. Please answer my question directly. What did you think was suspicious about stutters vote ?
Let me spell it out for you.
On November 02 2013 08:51 Asinine wrote:
That Stutters vote is soooo suspicious if fuba flips town. Let's not forget that post.
On November 02 2013 09:03 Asinine wrote:
I want to lynch Stutters tomorrow. I'm putting hzflank on the backburner until we lynch this guy.
On November 02 2013 09:10 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 09:09 Asinine wrote:On November 02 2013 09:06 hzflank wrote:On November 02 2013 09:03 Asinine wrote:
I want to lynch Stutters tomorrow. I'm putting hzflank on the backburner until we lynch this guy. You will put the guy who was almost lynched instead of the scum on the backburner, while you lynch the guy who dropped the hammer on the scum? Check again, Stutter's vote was extraneous and was only placed after it was obvious that fuba would die. It was far from extraneous, it put us in the lead. It doesn't clear him because he voted hz before for very weak reasons, but it doesn't really mean he's scum.
On November 02 2013 09:12 Asinine wrote:
Oh right, Stutters unvoted as well as voted. Fair enough. I still think he should be looked into, along with tehpoofter,
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On November 05 2013 03:22 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 03:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Hopeless, you said earlier that Stutters could be a possible teammate for Asinine. Do you really think that's likely considering his interactions with the flipped scum? I remember in Hogwarts you narrowed in on all of the our house's interactions with Pandain and determined that Holyflare was the hufflescum. I didnt really use Pandain as an anchor to compare filters against that game, HF was the scummiest looking of our house based on actual content and actions in the game. Quite frankly, Asinine looks like scum and I think we are in the situation that Mig has described where scum is banking on Asinine looking so scummy that doubt seeps into our minds wondering why isnt anyone trying to contest his lynch and we just agree to lynch elsewhere. I don't know who his scumbuddy is, and it does not matter. I don't need to lynch his partner to win. However, I do need to lynch Asinine so that this game can move forward. If he manages to flip town, we are still ridiculously better off without him. He is like the embodiment of scum right now. He's cancerous and prohibitive to any constructive discussion while he is around.. Remove him.
Pandain's filter seemed to me to be how you got town reads on Mattchew/Storrzerg so you must put some stock in using scum interactions to help determine alignment.
Let's play on so that we have things to work with in case Asinine doesn't actually end up being mafia.
Could you do a brief write up on what you make of stutters interactions with the flipped scum. (filter oats and fuba in stutters filter and stutters in Oat's filter) I personally think they make Stutters look quite townie.
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Alright, good luck town. I'm out. I'll be back after lynch.
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I'm not positive Asinine is mafia but I am going to vote him because I'm certain he is going to be lynched at some point in this game and it's probably better to do it earlier rather than later so that discussion doesn't just get stuck on Asinine.
##Unvote: Bereft
##Vote: Asinine
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On October 21 2013 07:55 HiroPro wrote:Setup Information Overview: This is a semi-open setup. The possible roles are listed, but the exact role counts are unknown. The mafia win when they equal or outnumber town while having more than 1 member alive. The town wins when mafia only have 1 member left. There are 10 townies and 4 mafia. Mafia have 1 KP each night. Notifications will only be given if required by the role.
Before I leave, just wanted to throw this out there. If I was scum, why is no one defending me? Scum loses if I'm scum and I die.
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On November 05 2013 03:32 Asinine wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 03:29 JarJarDrinks wrote:On November 05 2013 03:10 Asinine wrote:On November 05 2013 03:09 JarJarDrinks wrote:On November 05 2013 03:06 Asinine wrote:On November 05 2013 03:01 Stutters695 wrote:
Asinine, what changed between the immediate aftermath of the Fuba lynch and when you disappeared that made me go from (as far as I can tell) one of your top suspects to just I could be scum? I thought you had voted fuba after his lynch had gained a decisive majority. After I realized I was wrong, I downgraded you to only possible scum. So then whet did you mean by this post from right before the flip? On November 02 2013 08:51 Asinine wrote:
That Stutters vote is soooo suspicious if fuba flips town. Let's not forget that post. Yeah, read my posts after that post... I did and can't figure it out. Please answer my question directly. What did you think was suspicious about stutters vote ? Let me spell it out for you. Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 08:51 Asinine wrote:
That Stutters vote is soooo suspicious if fuba flips town. Let's not forget that post. Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 09:03 Asinine wrote:
I want to lynch Stutters tomorrow. I'm putting hzflank on the backburner until we lynch this guy. Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 09:10 Pandain wrote:On November 02 2013 09:09 Asinine wrote:On November 02 2013 09:06 hzflank wrote:On November 02 2013 09:03 Asinine wrote:
I want to lynch Stutters tomorrow. I'm putting hzflank on the backburner until we lynch this guy. You will put the guy who was almost lynched instead of the scum on the backburner, while you lynch the guy who dropped the hammer on the scum? Check again, Stutter's vote was extraneous and was only placed after it was obvious that fuba would die. It was far from extraneous, it put us in the lead. It doesn't clear him because he voted hz before for very weak reasons, but it doesn't really mean he's scum. Show nested quote +On November 02 2013 09:12 Asinine wrote:
Oh right, Stutters unvoted as well as voted. Fair enough. I still think he should be looked into, along with tehpoofter, No, that only explains why you were suspicious about stutters AFTER the flip. You thought that his vote was just a token vote for a teammate after the fact.
When you made that first post you thought that Fuba was gonna flip town. Why was stutters vote suspicious @ that point?
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I'll gladly do that if asinine flips town. Im kind of busy so I don't want to start filter diving right now grack. Sorry that I'm joining the lurker brigade for the short term.
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Vote Count
Asinine (7): Pandain, Bereft, Laughing Jack, Hopeless1der, TehPoofter, JarJarDrinks, Pandain, Grackaroni
TehPoofter (0): Grackaroni, Pandain
Bereft (1): Laughing Jack, Pandain, Grackaroni, Asinine
Laughing Jack (0): JarJarDrinks
Asinine is set to be lynched. Deadline is in at 01:00 GMT (+00:00).
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On November 05 2013 03:39 Asinine wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2013 07:55 HiroPro wrote:Setup Information Overview: This is a semi-open setup. The possible roles are listed, but the exact role counts are unknown. The mafia win when they equal or outnumber town while having more than 1 member alive. The town wins when mafia only have 1 member left. There are 10 townies and 4 mafia. Mafia have 1 KP each night. Notifications will only be given if required by the role. Before I leave, just wanted to throw this out there. If I was scum, why is no one defending me? Scum loses if I'm scum and I die.
Scum also needs 4 mislynches and if you are scum and everyone wants you dead with one guy pushing the lynch away from you then scum is as likely to lose from the obvious interactions later on as they are from voting you and hoping that me/Pandain do something to push the lynch away.
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Why did mafia kill hz if asinine is mafia? It makes him clearly look a lot worse. I guess there is the scenario that they planned on using Oats to bus him so they didn't care how asinine looked. But if that were the case why did asinine bother posting any reads during the night.
Meh don't think the lynch is going to be stopped at this point. Going to hope I am over thinking things and Odin is his buddy.
##vote Bereft
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