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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 21:58 GMT
#452
On November 02 2013 06:55 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't think Mig is right Pandain. I loudly pushed Oats and only Laughing Jack jumped on the train and people haven't been very adamant in pushing up other targets of their own. I'd bet mafia are either almost entirely afk or content with a hzflank lynch.


I honestly haven't read his posts but he's showing clear effort in the way he's outlining and going about posting. So that's enough to not vote him day one.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 22:00 GMT
#455
Grackapack, go!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 22:55 GMT
#471
What are you talking about, no I didn't.

I voted for Fuba in the same post I analyzed him in.

Grack and I are team-mates in this. We might as well be a fourth party. It's dangerous because one of us might be scum, but that's why the power of love must guide us in discerning each other's true intentions.

Hz voted him, and then I convinced Grack to vote him. Not weird at all considering it's obvious me and Grack are going to be buddies in this game.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 22:56 GMT
#472
Okay, then do you think the votes are still piling up too quickly? I mean to be frank there are only three votes on him.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 22:57 GMT
#474
I agree Hz's reasonings are poor, but it seems to be more of a result of mis-understanding then pure malice. Even ignoring him, what do you think of my points?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 22:58 GMT
#475
On November 02 2013 07:56 Pandain wrote:
Okay, then do you think the votes are still piling up too quickly? I mean to be frank there are only three votes on him.


Four votes*
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:02 GMT
#478
On November 02 2013 08:01 Asinine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 07:56 Pandain wrote:
Okay, then do you think the votes are still piling up too quickly? I mean to be frank there are only three votes on him.

I count four.

Honestly, votes pile up too quickly more often because town begins to play impulsively than because scum is piling on the target.

I think we have a classic case of misguided town being led astray by scum (hzflank) here.


The problem is I ignored his posts and am the person who led Grack to vote him.

You are also relying on several assumptions to fit a theory which is horrible reasoning. Mainly that hzflank is scum which I'm not getting from him right now.

I fail to see how you think mftuba is town. You still haven't adressed my points
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:04 GMT
#481
He's defensive, and delivered only one read. How about that?

And he's not simply apathetic, he's apathetic while still posting.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:05 GMT
#483
I fail to see that even if he isn't scum, how he is the least bit town.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:06 GMT
#484
On November 02 2013 07:17 Asinine wrote:
I'm still unimpressed with hzflank. His filter reeks of careful posturing which is reminiscent of standard scum play. Pursuing hzflank directly isn't netting immediate results because his posting is so meticulously crafted. However, I'll be leaving my vote on him if I cannot find any more convincing candidates.

I'll filter a few other players. Be back soon.


Did you look into any more canidates?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:13 GMT
#488
On October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
Why label Stutters as town


As a conversation starter. Up until that point only little blue men were being discussed and I am unable to partake in that discussion to to my unfamiliarity with big green or red men. Obviously I did not think that Stutters' post gave a clue to his alignment, but I may not of conveyed the tone correctly.

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
and leave the thread?


Due to Stutters reply. As you begin to read his post he appears to care about what I said, then when you get to the end I realised that he does not care. There was no reason to continue that line of conversation with him and I had nothing that I wanted to post, so I decided to spare the poor tl.net servers the effort of adding another one of my posts for a short while.

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On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
Your post serves no greater purpose other than to gain Stutters' support.


But my post gave you something to post about and in turn gave me something to post about. Now I can wonder why you commented on my post twice even though that you thought my post had no purpose. You might be mafia looking for something to post about, but obviously this early in the game there is no real need for that. You may be town attempting to move a conversation forward. Or perhaps you genuinely thought I had a clue as to Stutter's alignment two hours into the game when only five people had posted, and felt the need to call me out on that. Either of those possibilities fit in with your second post.

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:07 Asinine wrote:
Looks like he didn't even gain Stutters support... Regardless, hzflank does not look good right now.


The (rhetorical) question is: did you post that for the sake of posting something? Or did you post that hoping that I would reply directly to you? Or did you post that because when you were reading the thread for the first time you were already looking for scum, and my post was the only thing so far that looked like it might be scum?

I have no flipping idea, but less than five hours into the game and when I am tired, that's the best that I can do at the moment.

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 10:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Why so srs?


Oh, you wanted me to be less serious? Oops


I think this defense is just fine for me.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:19 GMT
#491
Can you explain why you think hzflank didn't address your questions?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:30 GMT
#500
His response is even better.

You read way too much into that one liner. That he's trying to bait Stutters into posting? What?

You say town shouldn't find other town, that's completely wrong especially in a mini. I also labeled Grack as town with no written reasons, what about that? You're assuming he's trying to lead Stutters into doing something when that is clearly not his intention
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:33 GMT
#502
Everyone fucking stop

The reasons for voting him are absolutely retarded. Other then Grack he has been the most active in this thread.


Jack why did you vote hzflank, answer now.

Asinine your reasons are sketchy as fuck

On November 02 2013 08:26 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm back, gonna try to catch up but I skimmed that newbie game and I think Hz's play resembles that over Titanic and I'm willing to take a shot on it.

##vote: Hzflank


1. Newbie game, probably different meta.
2. He's been active and posting and your reasoning is poor for a lynch, that he looks like this play. META IS A BAD WAY TO ANALYZE, especially when only using meta


He has answered all suspicions despite an attempt from asinine to make it somehow seem he dodged them.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:34 GMT
#504
Jar jar you are my boy and living up to my town read on you
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:34 GMT
#505
Grack, do you ever want to consider adding in JarJar to our group if he continues to play with us?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:34 GMT
#506
Actually wait our friendship is too bonded for a newcomer
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:36 GMT
#510
No it doesn't at all. People post differently then you. You blandly saying it seems constructed is a horrible reason to justify lynching a three page poster over a three post poster.

I don't know what's taking you so long to answer these, but you're playing so weird right now with horrible reasoning. Are you tunneled right now? How can you justify lynching the second most active person?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:38 GMT
#512
And there you are again saying he's blatant cherry-picking when its a clear mis-understanding and he's admitted it. Originally I had read it that way too, while analyzing mftuba.

Look at page two of his filter. He moves on from you and stops defense.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432880&user=hzflank&currentpage=2

He's comprehensive with his reads, going about everywhere. Stop focusing on only his interactions with you and focus on an overall standpoint and whether or not hzflank is likely to be considered scum based on his posts.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2013 23:38 GMT
#514
On November 02 2013 08:26 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm back, gonna try to catch up but I skimmed that newbie game and I think Hz's play resembles that over Titanic and I'm willing to take a shot on it.

##vote: Hzflank


ahhh how do you not find this suspicious as fuck asinine
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