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Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 20:06 GMT

#2137

The problem with Kush is I think he needs more analysis because he always does questionable things. He could be scum but could be town

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 20:07 GMT

#2140

Actually no Rayn your town or 3p for that marv post.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 20:10 GMT

#2145

Also to be frank saying that town should never vote themselves also applies to scum, ESP. When up for lynch.

Like if your already being voted and then scum WoS votes himself to try to bluff and appear useless/dumb to hope someone else recognizes it and leads a change? I don't think scum WoS makes that claim I think he play safer and rely on himself

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 20:11 GMT

#2148

On October 31 2013 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Weird Pandain, explain?

I already explained it.
You may disagree post psychology works but I was right on Clarity while you guys were gone.

If I explained it here it would be a weaker explanation of the point and I'm on my phone

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 20:12 GMT

#2149

Ebwop wrong

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 20:14 GMT

#2152

On October 29 2013 05:15 Pandain wrote:
I'll be blunt Rayn the reason why I took my suspicion off of you was because you could be a mason role and therefore it would make sense to PM Marv.

However if it's anything else there's no real justification for it as it reveals your role, unless, I forgot, the purpose of the role itself is to reveal it!

You also upped your game and are being town.

I forgot another thing, this:

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On October 29 2013 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay marv this looks much better. First things first. You will not get the PM until the deadline, i asked about it from the hosts. This is important. As that is the case, consider my twerk null. Another interesting thing. Your Promethelax "townslip" thingy, or what makes you think he is town. I find that reasonable, although i am not sure if i agree with that. I know i could, as scum, do what you are giving Prome a townread for. What is really interesting about it is WoS' reaction to the post. He doesn't seem to be agreeing with what you said as his vote yet remains on Prome. That's not what's weird in it however, what is weird is that he does not address the post in any way, he just let's it be like it didn't happen. If he thinks that does not make Prome town, why not say "i disagree" or something, as, by default, he should disagree with the post in case he still has a scumread on Prome.

WaveofShadow why did you not say at any point, that you disagree with marv's reasoning about Prome being town and how does that not make sense? Why you just skip over the post and not address it in any way?

I agree what's been said about Clarity, his case on Oats makes no sense given Oats' play this game and their history. If anything, Oats could be scum for making more sense than usual, but the reasons Clarity brings up are definitely bullshit. ^^

Another thing that bothers me is Seuss. When he last left the building, we had an argument going on. He never answered me after he got back. So hey Seuss, i think we got something going on between us and i think it's your turn to say something.

Prome, what do you think of marv's reasoning on you being town? Do you think he is right in what he says?

I also agree with what's been said about Koshi. He's really "quiet" and doesn't seem to be trying to do anything...

On an unrelated note (and i just post this because this is what has been bothering me in mafia sonce forever):
+ Show Spoiler +

On October 28 2013 20:30 marvellosity wrote:

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This is the attempt I'm going to make to reach out to you. I'm doing so under the assumption that you're a new(er) player.

Firstly, and it's been mentioned already, there is absolutely no reason to shut down discussion like you have here. If you're town, then being open and frank about your thought process is an exceedingly good way to prove your alignment, which is obviously a pretty damn important thing.

Secondly, you have absolutely no reason to condescend to someone like you've done here. It might be vaguely understandable if you were a known excellent player who had the clout to condescend, but you aren't (as far as I'm aware). There is literally no benefit to belittle rayn like this while he is trying to question you.

My problem with you, and it's a large one, is this. On one hand you are doing:

1) telling people how they will have conversations with you, arrogantly condescending to you
and on the other hand you are doing this:
2) going "oh gosh, i want to vote for this player, how do I do it hehehehe?" (my sexy paraphrasing)

This is a pretty unfortunate mix of arrogance and playing the newbie card.

If you're town, shape up.

Goddamn marv, i envy you. Purely because these kinda posts are the reason that makes me understand why you are listened in these games and i am not.

This post is so town in a number of ways.
Comprehensive, shows interest in getting opinion out.
Good points, so either I'm bad or we're on same scum trail

And the last post really strikes me as such a town thing to do. It's really hard to fake those kinds of posts.

Rayn is obviously trying to prove himself in this game since there are so many other good players and he has recently wanted to try to up his game to the next level.

It's dangerous to buddy Marv because that encourages doctors to save him or at least promotes him staying alive and a town marv is such a huge boon for town.

Or they're both mafia which is way more unlikely.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 20:54 GMT

#2164

I don't think your scum but I'll challenge that assumption:

How?

Yeah I haven't made real long posts, but I've been posting. And they've actually been good contrary to what you guys believe, even early on my posts were good for the time being. I'm pretty confident in my town reads and pretty sure there's at least one scum in SnB-Seuss; I warned against Clarity(although admittedly wasn't completely sure, just wouldn't have lynched him)

If you're looking for extreme confidence I won't have it; I'm not scum and I don't know the definitive answer. But what do you mean I don't have oomph

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 20:57 GMT

#2170

On October 31 2013 05:55 marvellosity wrote:

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This is the type of bullshit you said in Noir, you just kept calling your posts good and yourself town.

To be fair, Marv, I'm not the one who lynched Clarity for pretty poor reasoning.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 21:01 GMT

#2182

On October 31 2013 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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This is actually a good point on Pandabearguy.

Don't see how I'm playing bad as of now.

IF I'm totally wrong on scum, then sure, but as of now I'm 1/1

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 21:03 GMT

#2190

Oh what I missed the night actions.

Hey I'm 2/2 btw

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 21:04 GMT

#2195

##Twerk Marvellosity

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 21:05 GMT

#2200

Honestly I guess I'll be flattered that you guys think I'm scum because then I hide myself as scum pretty well.

Also those are all horrible lynches Marv, what?

Maybe I shouldn't have twerked you.

I'll vote SnB; WoS supported me on SnB too so there.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 21:07 GMT

#2203

I don't think Marv is scum though still, he wouldn't change to all objectively bad lynches.

I think he's just mad because I happened to be right on two people and he probably thinks I can't be good enough to identify town and apparently I don't contribute despite identifying town and nuking someone (before another confirmed town agreed with me) I thought was scum.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 21:11 GMT

#2211

On October 31 2013 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
lol @ the people I'm calling scum calling my lynches bad.

Your lynches are awful.

We know Kush is a strange man so we should wait until later to analyze him when we have more hardcore facts rather then "kush couldn't be THIS dumb or say THIS" because that doesn't work on him.

Rayn is very very eh when there are far more people that are objectively suspicious then what you accuse them of doing blatant mafia tactics like fake-typing a role name. Maybe 3p but not scum.

And there's still no good reasoning other then I'm celebrating the fact my reads have been right.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 21:11 GMT

#2212

"I lack omph"
What does that even mean I've clearly actually been involved in thread even over studying when I was supposed to.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 21:12 GMT

#2214

"I'm calling my play good"
Well my play has been right on two accounts, and both of them were up to lynch and I defended both of them.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 21:13 GMT

#2217

I'm not saying I'm good, this is my first town game since like 4 games ago/month ago so I'm not sure if I'm identifying scum correctly, but based on town reads I'm doing fine.

I guess I'll stop posting about this because you get what I mean and I'm probably coming off as arrogant even though I don't mean to be

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 21:15 GMT

#2221

Also why do you think they shot WoS, Marv?

Why not you or Prom?

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 21:16 GMT

#2225

On October 31 2013 06:15 Promethelax wrote:

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only if you assume he knew what he was doing. Which I don't assume. He had zero time devoted to the game and spent a lot of his time trying to not be deaded.

But he was clearly shot for a reason.

He was suspicious to people, so they weren't shooting confirmed townies and they weren't shooting vets or they would've prob gone for Prom/Marv unless they were being super safe.

At the least, his reads are important to look into

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

October 30 2013 21:21 GMT

#2234

On October 31 2013 06:17 marvellosity wrote:
Pandain - WoS's last read on s&b was "I'm downgrading you to null"

Then maybe it's not SnB it's someone else.
Point is his reads are important to look into as he would not have gotten shot if he wasn't right about at least something.

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