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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 06 2013 04:31 GMT
#4307
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I JUST REALIZED
Anthony Weiner
Barak Obama
Sarah Palin

##gg
##vote: Oatsmaster
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 06 2013 04:35 GMT
#4309
Also prome is basically cleared by this mason thing right? if he was scum he would've had to shoot Marv and mason him which would be retarded?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 06 2013 13:31 GMT
#4433
Koshi if you think oats is town do you think prome is scum? Or else how did rayn know how powers worked?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 06 2013 15:19 GMT
#4532
Okay I posted in qt

Also interesting out of sent. Everyone who's claimed an in thread ##action is ##dead right?

Sent do you have to only get alive players for both parts of your second wincon? I assume so because otherwise it would be impossible, since one of the vote changer people is probably going to die before all three of them target you.

Also are you sure it means in thread actions and not all "##actions"? Cause based on the dead people's role pms, out of thread actions are also ##'ed, they just get pm'd to the hosts instead of posted in thread.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 06 2013 15:27 GMT
#4544
Anyway - I'm not sure what someone having extra ##actions in thread that they haven't claimed tells us - I guess it seems odd that the hypothetical scum charger role has both in-thread and out-of-thread ##actions, but I see no reason it's impossible. And I still think the rayn thing makes it seem like scum have a charger role.

+ Show Spoiler +
(Koshi said that he thought the hosts could have told scum that somewhere not in their role pms, but i dont buy it. The hosts telling scum for free how town powers work would be pretty unprecedented and borderline bastardy IMO, scum already have information advantage about alignments and giving them information advantage about roles also would be pretty unfair. Almost as bad as giving scum an identical role with different costs and not telling them the costs are different, like in whose line mafia.)


One possibility I hadn't thought of before - I guess it's possible that there is a scum charge up role that didnt claim ever or try to use powers. That seems sufficiently unlikely for multiple reasons that I'm comfortable still believing either prome or oats has to be scum.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 06 2013 15:43 GMT
#4561
Oats (or prome) could have an extra spell? If he's scum there's no reason he doesn't have extra stuff.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 06 2013 15:46 GMT
#4564
I guess look at rayn's filter and see if his balance rage seems genuine or contrived? Like, if he actually did have a scumbuddy charger power then that whole thing would have been for our benefit right?

Idk, that would require believing the hosts told the scum team how town powers work, which I find improbable.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 06 2013 15:59 GMT
#4572
On November 07 2013 00:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 00:46 strongandbig wrote:
I guess look at rayn's filter and see if his balance rage seems genuine or contrived? Like, if he actually did have a scumbuddy charger power then that whole thing would have been for our benefit right?

Idk, that would require believing the hosts told the scum team how town powers work, which I find improbable.

Why is that improbable? How else does rayn use his powers?


Rayn's role pm is carefully worded not to give any information about how it affects other people in the game. If there were going to tell him what his role actually did they could have done it any number of other ways, like "increase the costs of all their powers by 1" or whatever. Like,
If they were going to just give scum that information it's already pretty unfair IMO, since scum already have extra info about alignments, to give them also extra info about roles. But then to also make the fact that they did that a secret seems doubly bad.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 07 2013 15:08 GMT
#4649
On November 07 2013 22:37 Koshi wrote:
We just got to lynch scum. That's prior 1.
Need to keep lynching perfect.

If you don't believe in 4 scums, then Sentinel really is the survivor.

The question is then, did Oats roll something like dayvig and totally lied about his role. Or did Kush/SnB/VA roll something like dayvig and lied about being VT.

VA I don't believe to be scum.
Kush I believe to be scum.
SnB mehhhhh. He entered the thread with VT claim. Maybe he doesn't like being a scum dayvig after Sicilian but mehhh.

Lol koshi
If I was a scum dayvig does my nuke make any sense?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 07 2013 22:22 GMT
#4696
did you guys ever get actual modconfirmation that NKs are blockable?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 08 2013 15:36 GMT
#4728
Ok so hey so I just wanted to make sure I got the status right

We're lynching me tomorrow because I haven't been trying very hard, and somehow that makes me scum. Then we have to decide whether to lynch the charge up power roles or keep lynching the vt claims, right? ATM we have seven players left, of which four are charge up power roles, two are vts, and one is 3p.

So worst case for town: assuming NKs go through and we don't solve the game with our blues. We have 5-(1)-1 now -> 4-(1)-1 after nk -> 3-(1)-1 after lynching me -> 2-(1)-1 after the next nk. At this point we lose if sent is scum - in other words, if sent is scum then tomorrow is mylo barring a save or jail.

In the case where sent isn't scum, lets assume that the NKs are on Marv and koshi as town leaders, and that they both go through. If town lynches town at that point we lose. If we lynch sent at that point then after nk it's 1-1. Based on the vote counts, a tie means whoever gets voted first gets lynched, so at that point it's a race who can post in the voting thread the soonest after the daypost.

Anyway, we have now Prome, Oats, VA, and Sent as the remaining players, and it's effectively lylo since we should try to avoid a posting race or no-lynching which makes sentinel the kingmaker. I'm not looking forward to towns chances at that lylo, cause I really have no idea which of those three is scum.

If we lynch sentinel tomorrow then it's 4-1 -> 3-1 after nk with me, prome, va, and oats. At that point I probably get lynched and we are in a who-can-vote-first race at 1-1.

So I guess the conclusion is we should lynch scum tomorrow, while one of koshi/Marv is still alive to be town leader, instead of lynching me, which either loses us the game directly or else puts us at a 3-1-1 where one of va, prome, or oats is the last scum.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 08 2013 15:36 GMT
#4729
Also sarah palin just sayin'
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2013 18:12 GMT
#4764
Meh, whatevs.

[b]##Update Koshi
##Twerk
##vote: sentinel[\b]
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2013 18:12 GMT
#4765
On November 10 2013 03:12 strongandbig wrote:
Meh, whatevs.

##Update Koshi
##Twerk
##vote: sentinel

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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2013 23:44 GMT
#4801
huh

imagine if that nuke on VA had been real

how baller would I have looked then
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 10 2013 17:16 GMT
#4823
On November 10 2013 12:14 Crossfire99 wrote:
He did, but I only confirmed it from him like a few minutes before the deadline and I was kinda already writing the lynch post and wanted to trick people into thinking s&b was the last scum for suspense and whatnot, so that's why I did that. If s&b wants me to, I can undo that and make it so that VA concedes before the lynch.


Eh, if I ever decide to care about my getting-lynched stats I'll just change it in the db. I think I've gotten mislynched twice already in the last three years, once over claims and once for not giving a shit. So do w/e
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 10 2013 17:17 GMT
#4824
What was cobra tank a reference to? I assume it means one of you is gonna jail the other but why cobratank?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 12 2013 03:38 GMT
#4888
On November 12 2013 08:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Way better than BH's randomlynches, statistically.. :p


My RNG lynches have never lynched a townie

Why are you claiming credit for palmar's random lynches?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 12 2013 03:39 GMT
#4889
Or are yours better?
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