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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2013 20:51 GMT
#756
On October 29 2013 05:47 Pandain wrote:
I don't know what you're referring to now explain.

Also early buddying which I guess I use the term incorrectly refers to you activating his power and then using your role on him.

You basically focused on marv early on in an unjustiable matter because his alignment wasn't clear.

It was actually really suspicious

Yes and this is one of the things i am calling you out for. You called my reasoning for what i did bad by saying "oh god that's bad". Why, exactly is it bad? When i am town i tend to want to find out best player's affiliation, because it is a challenge to me. I am not afraid to make quick judgements and call "the best players" scum if i think they are scummy (compared to other players - i hate when there are people who say "we are not lynching XYZ on D1 just because vet").

Why was my reasoning bad for you given what i said about marv's posts about twerking early on?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2013 21:02 GMT
#761
On October 29 2013 05:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I don't understand the suspicion on Koshi, to me it looks like a carbon copy of his play as town in Noir. Maybe a shade more reserved, but still relatively casual, low-content posts. All that's left is him blindly tunneling someone.

Anything else? When does your power kick in?
On October 29 2013 05:54 Pandain wrote:
But I didn't realize your probably a mason role. I thought you were using a power to have another effect on someone which wouldn't be justifiable literally unless its a mason role.

On October 29 2013 05:57 Pandain wrote:
Basically nothing I did was scummy I think I just explained myself poorly yesterday.

From my standpoint you were not trying to find out his alignment, you were trying to create a friendship to help you. And that friendship to be formed wouldn't have been justifiable if your town because you don't know his alignment.

I just forgot masons

Have you read the thread?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2013 21:15 GMT
#765
Oh god that post is so bad...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2013 21:15 GMT
#766
EBWOP: I don't mean the last post but the post above..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2013 21:20 GMT
#769
You can't call me out for being evasive as i wanted to use a power on marv, you yourself said claiming powers is bad, and now i am scummy for being evasive about my power. What, should i claim?

Also the first chapter is a straight out lie.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2013 21:25 GMT
#770
Let me be more clear. This is what you say:
Largely because of how you've generally been extremely evasive about it. Like I said before, when Pandain brought it up you didn't say, "This shouldn't seem scummy to you." You said, "But you got on my case because of my other action." which can't really be called a response despite all the heat Pandain's taken.


This is what i have been saying all the time:
On October 28 2013 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay Pandain this has gone to role fishing. Stop it already. There is nothing alignment indicative in my role use, at least nothing scummy.


On October 28 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 08:52 Pandain wrote:
I don't want your role, I think it's suspicious for a blue to reveal its effects to an unverified character.


You can't possibly say that if you do not know the effects.

Now explain. Please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2013 21:34 GMT
#773
I said at first he was rolefishing, because to me it sounded like (1) he wanted to know if i actually did use a power or not or (2) if i did, based on what he said earlier, he was rolefishing (because somehow it would be scummy for me to use a power).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2013 21:40 GMT
#777
I kinda want to lynch the OOHCHILD dude..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2013 22:07 GMT
#785
ima take a nap. hopefully i'll be back in ~3h.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 29 2013 03:16 GMT
#844
marvellosity my power went through.

I have a big problem with this post, even bigger than the Clarity's case on Oats:
On October 29 2013 02:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 01:51 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 01:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
I feel really good about killing Clarity.

This is the one game where town shouldnt be making cases on me.

I was kinda fishing for something like this, good man :p I have this little theory in my head, that Clarity made a case on you because we had this conversation in Heavyweight about how only townies attack Oats, and mafia never do.


Don't even remember this. I actually have to go somewhere urgently now so I'll produce some stuff tomorrow >.<
There's a reason my oats stuff didn't come with a vote, when it usually does. I did believe in it though, still kinda do, but will reread and see if I change my mind later.
But your vote is kinda bad marv, TT

This basically possibly nullifies everything Clarity has said in this game besides having a town read on Prome (for why - idk). Both ends are bad, either he sticks with his bad case on Oats, or he doesn't which means he has done jack.

On the other hand i am willing to give Pandain more time. I am not sure if he is scum and he'll be easier to get a decent read on later when he starts taking hard stances.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Clarity_nl


On October 29 2013 09:14 Pandain wrote:
I now have an inherent desire to vote Hotcottoncandy

Is this a policy or is there more?

I dislike Sentinel more. It has to do with his power and his attitude how he talks about it. When he asked people to power him up his attitude was cheery and screamed an attitude of "hey guys, let's do this". When we actually did that, and counted down to ##1, he went to "I wonder if the hosts got my message. Don't want to give away my power if the countdown duds because something was wrong with the sequencing. Knowing the hosts, someone should be up and attending this game, but they might be asleep". There is a sudden change in his attitude and it's not what i expected from him. What i expected him to do was something along the lines "thanks guys, now we do good stuff". When marv asked Sentinel about it later he answered "The hosts have told me that everything is going as planned and that my power has been accounted for. I have said everything I need to say about the power. Patience, my son." This is plain out secretive. All in all i do not like how his attitude regarding his power and people asking about it changes completely during this whole thing.

I do not know what SnB is doing atm but i don't like it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 29 2013 04:29 GMT
#847
If Clarity turns out to be scum I'll twerk for Marv, but I'm holding out until then.

Why's this considering you called him "striking me as very townie" earlier?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 29 2013 04:39 GMT
#849
What are your current thoughts on WoS?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 29 2013 04:54 GMT
#851
My problem with WoS is that i have no idea who he thinks is scum. After his Prome case he is kinda.. asking people if someone is scum. That's doesn't seem WoS-like, because he is a strong player.

I also do think Koshi is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 29 2013 12:42 GMT
#966
I don't want to lynch Pandain. His recent posting is way more townier than before and way different from his decent games where he was scum. There is a certain pattern that repeats in Pandain's posts when he is town but not so when he is scum. Unless i see that pattern breaking here or he says something really scummy i won't lynch him.

I wanna lynch Clarity or WoS. They are both capable players as town. Clarity is doing really bad and all i sense from WoS' posts is fear and insecurity.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 29 2013 12:42 GMT
#967
On October 29 2013 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
OOHCHILD is either Dandel or BH for sure. Leaning dandel cause dandel isnt free on weekends.

If OOHCHILD is BH he should be lynched three times already.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 29 2013 12:45 GMT
#968
If i had to put OOHCHILD into any player profile - Palmar.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 29 2013 12:59 GMT
#981
##Yolo Promethelax
Be aware that i didn't do it correct the last time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 29 2013 13:34 GMT
#994
On October 29 2013 22:21 Promethelax wrote:
So Rayn, I assume you are catching up but you say Pandain is town so who are your three scum targets? Clarity is clearly within the three but I'd like an update on where you stand.

Clarity, WoS and Sentinel.
For the record i do not post if i am not caught up, so whenever i do i am caught up. :p
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 29 2013 13:36 GMT
#995
OOHCHILD why do you think marv and Koshi are mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 29 2013 13:40 GMT
#1000
On October 29 2013 22:37 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2013 22:21 Promethelax wrote:
So Rayn, I assume you are catching up but you say Pandain is town so who are your three scum targets? Clarity is clearly within the three but I'd like an update on where you stand.

Clarity, WoS and Sentinel.
For the record i do not post if i am not caught up, so whenever i do i am caught up. :p


ah okay, so you had nothing to comment on from when you were away? And you don't find OOOH scummy, why is that?

Nothing much besides what i said about WoS and Koshi (i actually read a couple of filters too). I think what OOH said about Pandain is reasonable (besides the last point), i just don't think that makes Pandain scum.
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