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What is this game. | ||
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Holy shit. | ||
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I haven't the faintest idea. I didn't even think to check until marv got one. Then I noticed the PM. | ||
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On October 30 2013 06:13 Koshi wrote: Also nukes will be fake except one. My PM doesn't say anything about that. o.O | ||
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On October 30 2013 06:15 strongandbig wrote: why dont we just like nuke everyone except marv? Works for me. This is probably the most hilarious game of mafia ever. | ||
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On October 30 2013 06:20 marvellosity wrote: Obviously all the nukes are not real. Way to ruin my newbie "everything is possible" dreams. So what's the plan then? Are we going to use our nukes like votes in a lightning lynch round? | ||
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There's no rush to nuke everyone right this instant. If Koshi/marv are right about the nukes we basically had a quick, extra lynch phase and the opportunity to try and do some more scum hunting. Instead we're just pressing the big red button at whoever we like because we can. Instead we're firing them off willy-nilly. | ||
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On October 30 2013 08:11 Pandain wrote: Marv why aren't you stopping people from nuking I think he's too busy pounding his head into a wall because rayn screwed up his power and because of OOHCHILD in general. | ||
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On October 30 2013 09:01 WaveofShadow wrote: This just proves people don't read what I have to say. Makes me feel better because I know people are just talking out of their asses about me and drawing conclusions where they want to. Monte the third FUCKING line of my return post. Does trying to create a nuke plan in thread give SnB townie points? I lean towards no. Sorry, I missed that line. I jumped straight from line 2 to your thoughts on clarity, and then got extremely confused when you started talking about X nukes to X people when all evidence I'm aware of currently suggests everyone gets a nuke. At least, no one I'm aware of has popped into the thread whining that they didn't get a nuke. | ||
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On October 30 2013 09:04 Pandain wrote: No it's extremely anti town because townies as a whole are retarded. We don't have enough information when information is the best town tool, it creates a mess after the nuke day. Right. For example, what if the three nukes already in the air are real and all of their targets are townies? We could already be out four townies with only one day's worth of information to go on. That leaves 9 people with nukes trying to find 2-4 mafia and/or a third party, only 2-5 of the nukes are in the hands of the enemy. All it takes are a couple more careless town nukes and, if the nukes are real, the game could basically be over. Our best hope right now is that marv/Koshi are right that only one of the nukes is real, and that it's not one of the ones in the air right now. | ||
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On October 30 2013 09:10 Pandain wrote: Because if they are real it's the equivalent of a vigilante Why would they be fake The argument for them being fake is, "This will be the dumbest game of mafia ever." For all intents and purposes the game could basically be over after N1. The argument for them being real is, "This is twitter mafia with some pretty ridiculous powers and who would have guessed the town would be dumb enough to thoughtlessly countdown an unknown power from an unverified source day 1?" | ||
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On October 30 2013 12:01 Pandain wrote: This is a policy nuke and I hope its real ##Nuke strongandbig If you assume all the nukes are real, which (correct me if I'm wrong) seems to be your working assumption, you just wasted your nuke. | ||
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On October 30 2013 12:05 Pandain wrote: Actually this is a good compromise. Everyone should nuke SnB Good chance of being scum, and ensures that we don't have a nuclear armageddon. Seuss why not nuke SnB? Because I'm not entirely convinced by marv, and I'm trying to math out whether we have any chance whatsoever at this point in the case that they're real. | ||
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On October 30 2013 23:31 WaveofShadow wrote: Fuck this useless smurf discussion. There was enough time for it pregame when no one would believe me. Its not scumhunting and I don't want to give an attention whore asshole more attention than os absolutely necessary. Seuss when you come back can I get some updated reads from you? You tend to consider things that I don't and I'd be very interested to hear what you think atm. Ask and you shall receive. First and foremost I don't care who kush is or if OOHCHILD is kush, his play has been nothing short of scum-city. While he's had the odd good point here or there, he's been extremely disruptive, unhelpful, distracting, and more. His nuke on Wave also makes zero sense. This was OOHCHILD before the lynch yesterday: On October 30 2013 01:36 OOHCHILD wrote: Popping in to say I hate the WoS lynch. It feels like the only reason why are lynching him is because he isn't here. I'm letting Pandain go. Im letting Marv go (don't see what is so town about him though) I would lynch Seuss, HotCottonCandy, or Sentinel. On October 30 2013 03:15 OOHCHILD wrote: Seuss looks pretty transparent and town with his recent explanations. Especially for second game scum. Going back to WoS I guess. I would rather lynch Sentinel or HotCottonCandy though. The last we heard from him Day 1 he'd rather lynch Sentinel or HotCottonCandy over WaveofShadow. Fast-forward to nuke-city and the first thing he does is nuke WaveofShadow. Not a word as to why, just FIRE ZE MISSILES! Now I'm willing to give him a pass on Sentinel because nuke-city changed things on that front. However, we have no explanation for why HotCottonCandy wasn't considered. Outside of the Clarity flip nothing had really changed there, and as of yet we haven't received a good explanation (calling it an "impulsive move" is up there with the "bored of mafia" defense he gave for Clarity). Looking over HotCottonCandy's history there's nothing that stands out connecting or disconnecting him from OOHCHILD. At one point he suggested voting for OOHCHILD when the choice seemed to be Clarity or OOHCHILD, but outside of that HotCottonCandy has only mentioned him in passing. I don't feel confident reading much into their interactions or lack thereof, but I will analyze HotCottonCandy. I'll forgive HotCottonCandy for waffling back and forth with his opinion on me during the pre-lynch insanity; I was under a lot of scrutiny at the time and there was a lot going on. However, I haven't liked his approach to the whole nuke situation: On October 30 2013 09:47 HotCottonCandy wrote: We should probably all use our nukes regardless if they are real or not, much easier to read people like this because there's no hiding behind anything, you attempt to nuke one person and it says a lot about your alignment and where you stand. I'll be nuking some one soon after I read a few more filters. On the one hand he's correct that you can read a lot into a person's thoughts and motivations based on their nuke choice. However, a town's greatest strength is its community, and telling everyone to follow their bliss is a great recipe for chaos, confusion, and counter-productivity. Case in point, if everyone hadn't been so trigger happy we could, as has been suggested several times, effectively had a lightning-lynch round. Instead we currently have chaos because OOHCHILD, Koshi, Oatsmaster and others had to push the red button. HotCottonCandy also acted extremely surprised when strongandbig nuked him after he'd been actively and vocally contemplating nuking strongandbig. It's pretty obvious from how strongandbig went about the actual nuking that he was being vindictive. I think it's a stretch at this point to think it was anything more than that, as strongandbig's play post-lynch hasn't shown him capable of that kind of duplicity and forethought. So right now I've got a strong scum read on OOHCHILD, and I'm suspicious of HotCottonCandy. A quick thought on Oatsmaster's confusing Koshi nuke. Even if you assume Koshi's question is scummy, we had hours that could have been spent grilling Koshi on that before we needed to fire nukes at him. Oatsmaster's play there is in keeping with the | ||
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On October 31 2013 01:37 Promethelax wrote: For serious Suess, I get that those things happened but this game is about conclusions not summaries. I'm a mathematician and an analyst. I'm trained to support my conclusions with facts/probable cause/proven theorems etc. This whole "I will post one sentence that is my conclusion and then cause a long confusing debate where no one has any idea what anyone else is thinking" thing baffles me. But to reiterate what I said at the end of my post. I think OOHCHILD is scum, HotCottonCandy is probably scum, and Oats is looking pretty scummy as well. | ||
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On October 31 2013 01:49 WaveofShadow wrote: Regarding OOHCHILD, assuming that you know nothing about him beyond what he has done in this game, do you think it is likely play as scum to be attention-grabbing, abrasive and insulting as he has been, despite his random waffling on me? I'm curious. Yes. This is probably the perfect game for that sort of disruptive play. Just look at the players. Aside from marv and maybe Prom there's just a giant mess of people underperforming and making it easy for scum to do whatever they want. OOHCHILD is certainly making himself a target, but in a game where everyone's a target that can be pretty good cover. He's also apparently got his smurf/kush thing to fall back on and throw you all off, which has apparently been fairly successful so far. I don't think "meta" play is bad per se, but I'm going to call it like I see it. | ||
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