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Like Seuss was struggling to find people to vote on Day 1.
He really only voted for OOHCHILD and Clarity? Seems more likely he'd vote for OOHCHILD
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On November 05 2013 20:35 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 10:04 Seuss wrote:On October 29 2013 09:56 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:47 Seuss wrote:On October 29 2013 09:22 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:16 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:12 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
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I disagree, but like you said, inconsequential.
Convince me that Clarity is scum, marv. I literally could not have said anymore, and I think it's pretty dodgy you're saying this. Stop being bad please, it's giving me scumvibes. Too bad. If you want me to lynch your target then you should be looking to convince me, no? I'm not convinced. Be back in a little while. You, yourself, said "yuck" to Clarity's post, and since then, he just went to play dota and disappeared? Why aren't *you* convinced given what you've posted, or at least convinced enough to vote him over OOCHILD? That's really weak, WoS. So Clarity pushing an obviously bad case makes him scum? I see the point you make regarding he should know he's bad and not push it, but I posit that it's entirely possible that, you know, he wouldn't be pushing a bad case in the first place if he was scum because it looks like shit and would cause these problems for himself. I agreed with your 'yuck' I am not convinced it's bad-scum. And yet you're convinced enough that OOCHILD would make himself blatantly voteable by doing absolutely nothing and posting shit? That's more convincing to you? Ok Wave. There's a notable difference between OOCHILD and Clarity_nl, effort. It takes effort to make an argument, even a bad one. It takes zero effort to do nothing and/or post utter shit. Correct, and scum are liable to put some effort in, whereas usually players who do literally nothing (hello nyxnyxnyx) are the townies. Pretty surprised you're making this argument given how your game went actually. The scummers in your game actually put in effort, bad effort. I have unshakeable faith in the lurker policy lynch. I'm probably just biased because the lurkers in that game really made it a hair-pulling experience. Their presence was always looming in the background whenever I tried to make sense of anything, and it frustrated me ( especially because it turned out they were all town, ugh). But you're right, there's a logical disconnect between "God lurkers are horrible and should all die" and "lurkers are scum and should be lynched". Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 10:21 Seuss wrote:On October 29 2013 10:07 marvellosity wrote:
As long as we're clear, Seuss, that you're policy lynching and not actually aiming for mafia. Yeah. I honestly don't find OOHCHILD scummy or worth a lynch, but I voted for him and didn't say that aloud because I was hoping he'd feel pressure and post. Isn't this kinda claiming that he won't leave his vote there? These are the 2 posts Seuss made right after voting Kush. Seuss is actually not pressuring shit. He just leaves vote there for a second.
He only said these things under significant pressure from me to explain his vote
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On November 05 2013 20:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 09:47 Seuss wrote:On October 29 2013 09:22 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:16 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:12 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
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Really?
Well I guess all of the smurfslips we've seen in past games are.....what exactly? Are people not looking at who they're signed in as. If you're thinking enough to post "test" then you're thinking enough to look at who you're signed in as. I disagree, but like you said, inconsequential. Convince me that Clarity is scum, marv. I literally could not have said anymore, and I think it's pretty dodgy you're saying this. Stop being bad please, it's giving me scumvibes. Too bad. If you want me to lynch your target then you should be looking to convince me, no? I'm not convinced. Be back in a little while. You, yourself, said "yuck" to Clarity's post, and since then, he just went to play dota and disappeared? Why aren't *you* convinced given what you've posted, or at least convinced enough to vote him over OOCHILD? That's really weak, WoS. So Clarity pushing an obviously bad case makes him scum? I see the point you make regarding he should know he's bad and not push it, but I posit that it's entirely possible that, you know, he wouldn't be pushing a bad case in the first place if he was scum because it looks like shit and would cause these problems for himself. I agreed with your 'yuck' I am not convinced it's bad-scum. And yet you're convinced enough that OOCHILD would make himself blatantly voteable by doing absolutely nothing and posting shit? That's more convincing to you? Ok Wave. There's a notable difference between OOCHILD and Clarity_nl, effort. It takes effort to make an argument, even a bad one. It takes zero effort to do nothing and/or post utter shit. damn I forgot this one. This was the first post after his "pressure" on Kush. He already starts saying Kush made more effort than Clarity.
no it's the other way round
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no, it's the other way round like i just said
the effort = Clarity's case on Oatsmaster, I remember the context clearly
if I die you need to get these things right
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Based on Seuss alone, Oats+s&b look like the likely candidates.
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Yes, that's a good question and one I've asked myself quite a bit, never came to a satisfactory answer one way or another.
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I don't think delay came into it.
The issue is this - if the nuke IS real and hits Oats as town, rayn really looks terrible. To other people, not just me.
rayn is really well known for being able to read Oats.
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I don't think it's an unreasonable gamble that it wasn't real. Can't decide though.
The thing is, it doesn't make sense for rayn to nuke Oats *regardless* of Oats' alignment if he thinks the nuke is real, if you see what i'm saying
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On November 05 2013 21:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 21:18 marvellosity wrote:
I don't think delay came into it.
The issue is this - if the nuke IS real and hits Oats as town, rayn really looks terrible. To other people, not just me.
rayn is really well known for being able to read Oats. But if they can secure a misslynch the game is won. It would be 4 vs 4 after NK. (If it is 9 vs 4)
i don't think 9-4 is going to be the setup
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On November 05 2013 21:27 Koshi wrote:
But he was America America.
Bingo! Made a thought breakthrough
Sentinel isn't scumbuddies with rayn, all the nukes are fake, it literally makes no sense that only mafia get a real nuke, therefore rayn knows the nuke is fake.
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The long and short of it is, it didn't take rayn any balls to fire his nuke at Oats.
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I actually think Onegu not firing his nuke means nothing, if he knows it's fake he doesn't mind firing it, the reason for not firing it is that he needs to look like he's not caught up enough to fire it.
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Of course I'm cautious, I'm not sure any more. It's a good time to discuss all the pros and cons of things.
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On November 05 2013 21:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
What Marv? You arent sure after a scum flip? Why are you more unsure than you were before rayn flipped?
I don't understand the point of this post because I don't know what it's trying to achieve.
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It means that I'd expect a townie to express some kind of happiness that we just lynched the scum leader rather than being pissed off about something.
Does it matter why I'm not sure who is mafia right now? It is what it is.
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It's kinda tempting just to go for s&b tomorrow and see how it goes.
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How does it matter? Literally how does it matter in any way? What does it say about anything? Absolutely nothing.
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what the fuck is wrong with you? :/
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Are you actually reading this game?
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Such as lynching mafia with Koshi day 2, and pushing mafia-rayn to lynch on day 3 while he ad-homed me all day?
Ok.
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