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On October 29 2013 09:47 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 09:22 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:16 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:12 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 09:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 29 2013 09:00 marvellosity wrote:
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I'm sorry, I'm trying not to comment on too many inconsequential things, but this is ludicrous. If someone is capable of smurfing, then someone is capable of looking at the top left to see who they're signed in as rather than having to post "test". This is spectacularly dumb, Wave.
Really? Well I guess all of the smurfslips we've seen in past games are.....what exactly? Are people not looking at who they're signed in as. If you're thinking enough to post "test" then you're thinking enough to look at who you're signed in as. I disagree, but like you said, inconsequential. Convince me that Clarity is scum, marv. I literally could not have said anymore, and I think it's pretty dodgy you're saying this. Stop being bad please, it's giving me scumvibes. Too bad. If you want me to lynch your target then you should be looking to convince me, no? I'm not convinced. Be back in a little while. You, yourself, said "yuck" to Clarity's post, and since then, he just went to play dota and disappeared? Why aren't *you* convinced given what you've posted, or at least convinced enough to vote him over OOCHILD? That's really weak, WoS. So Clarity pushing an obviously bad case makes him scum? I see the point you make regarding he should know he's bad and not push it, but I posit that it's entirely possible that, you know, he wouldn't be pushing a bad case in the first place if he was scum because it looks like shit and would cause these problems for himself. I agreed with your 'yuck' I am not convinced it's bad-scum. And yet you're convinced enough that OOCHILD would make himself blatantly voteable by doing absolutely nothing and posting shit? That's more convincing to you? Ok Wave. There's a notable difference between OOCHILD and Clarity_nl, effort. It takes effort to make an argument, even a bad one. It takes zero effort to do nothing and/or post utter shit.
But who is more likely to put in effort, scum or town.
And I don't mean a great deal of effort, I mean a moderate amount of effort.
Your argument goes both ways.
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Sentinel is suspicious I agree and his alignment will hopefully be decided later on. I don't think why we should be suspicious of him is about how he reacted after having his powers activate, obviously they did and he was more than happy to have people activate them asap day one, so his reaction afterwards wouldn't really matter.
It's more his play afterwards
On October 29 2013 11:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 08:20 HotCottonCandy wrote:
@sentinel yes I'm a smurf but lets be honest here I am not using meta against anyone so it's not like I have a leg up. I'm simply pressuring you for your actions so far. Could you give me some scumreads or something that bothers you or anything?
I don't really have a problem with cleaning out the rifraff either and I'll gladly vote for OOHCHILD. it's essentially a random lynch with a bias towards someone being intentionally useless and I have no qualms about that.
sadface to koshi's list, pretty contentless bar a few people like WaveofShadow and Seuss. Decent enough I guess.
@Pandain I have a hard time believing you could make cases and write in detail yesterday while on meds. Seems like a strange excuse but whatever. Not here to judge on that kind of stuff but if it comes down to the wire it certainly wont help you. I'll post some reads in the morning. My vote on OOHCHILD isn't just because he's a lurker, but because he was actually really active until the day started. I wouldn't have a hard time believing he's a new mafia who doesn't know what to do. If he were a blue I'd feel he'd be more floaty-in-the-background, like Chairman Ray in Noir. Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 08:53 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 05:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I don't understand the suspicion on Koshi, to me it looks like a carbon copy of his play as town in Noir. Maybe a shade more reserved, but still relatively casual, low-content posts. All that's left is him blindly tunneling someone. It's interesting that you should bring this up - I gave koshi a contentious (contentious to me, because I felt like I was going out on a limb) townread, because I couldn't believe that Koshi would be *so* passive as mafia. And I was right. The problem is that this game feels somewhere in between, where he's not *as* passive as he was in Noir, rather just wishy washy and non-committal while perhaps trying not to look like that. It all comes down to degrees and interpretation, and my interpretation was that it wasn't the same and that it's somewhat suspicious. IIRC he was shot in Thug Life for being too not-passive and he flipped cop. Maybe he's trying to compromise somehow? Not a fully evidenced townread, but nothing out of the ordinary in my eyes. Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 09:25 marvellosity wrote:Oh I forgot. On October 29 2013 06:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I have said everything I need to say about the power. Patience, my son.
Unless I missed it, you told us the power would go off when the countdown reached zero, which it has. So what gives? What's the state of play? If you're not sure, ask the hosts. I want to know. The hosts have told me that everything is going as planned and that my power has been accounted for. I have said everything I need to say about the power. Patience, my son. Sleepytime
Almost every point in here is really really weak, and his previous posts were all like one liners after he was able to reach countdown zero.
We'll see what he does later on though to get a better grasp.
It was a bad idea of course to activate his power but what can you do.
If Clarity turns out to be scum I'll twerk for Marv, but I'm holding out until then.
And it's only policy that would make me want to lynch Vayne.
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I think he's very town but I'm not going to activate a potential scum power for him unless I'm very certain.
Very townie =/= Town
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No strong thoughts.
Only town reads I have are Prom, Marv, Oats, you.
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There is no way I am catching up to this in time allotted(I have to study for test).
Recap please?
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No I think it makes sense for there to be multiple voting thingiemabobbers.
Mine doesn't 'get rid of someone's vote, it lessens it by one.
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Once a day I can make a player have one less vote, which is permanent.
I can use it daily.
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On October 30 2013 02:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 02:07 Pandain wrote:
Once a day I can make a player have one less vote, which is permanent.
I can use it daily. Does this basically mean that by Day 4 you can have removed 4 players votes entirely?
If I used them every day but I'm not going to use it unless I'm sure someone is scum so that's probably not going to happen
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Is this the only reason we want to lynch WoS or is there something else.
Because I believe that lynching someone based only on metagame speculation is pretty bad and not how we should really approach the game anyway
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Oh apparently my power isn't permanent, it only lasts for one day
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On October 30 2013 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh god Pandain, have you even been reading the thread?
No I said I didn't, I have a test upcoming and am studying for it now and can simply not have the time to read the 25 new pages that have arised (wtf happened).
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I would like if someone brought me at least somewhat up to speed, I understand the role argument.
If someone would quote a case I would appreciate it
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Based on his responses I like a lynch on WoS.
Still him voting for himself is way too scummy, no reason to do it as town especially when you're up for the lynch what .
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On October 30 2013 02:28 HotCottonCandy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also CandymanAuthority why are you voting for Pandain? Case please if you think he is scum. It's not based on what he is doing but rather what the thread is doing. Go through and count how many times he has been mentioned randomly for pretty much no reason when there isn't even a discussion on him! There is so much light suspicion on him but nobody is pushing him or doing anything about it, it's just oh yea he's scummy maybe idk. This is usually scum when this happens because they are just skating by in thread and their buddies try to make him look bad but not too bad so he blends in. even though he is not playing to his scum meta here I think he has a good chance of flipping scum for other reasons in a nutshell.
This is awful assumption-based reasoning.
Perhaps it's that I'm town?
You think I'm scum based on how others are reacting to me.
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I think if WoS turns out to be scum OOHChild is probably town.
If you're going to try and save your scummate when he's being lynched overwhelmingly, you do more then that.
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Ok I know this sucks for others(or doesn't if WoS is scum), but I have to leave now. If there are any questions for me that people want answered, please post them and I'll answer them on my phone while I go eat lunch.
Wish me luck on my test, found out I have a B- when I thought I was failing so pretty excited.
I have a exam tomorrow in one of my other classes so ideally I will be studying all day today though I might be back.
If not I'll be back during night phase.
Good luck guys
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I don't feel comfortable lynching WoS after that post. It seems too believable to me.
I would be happy lynching SnB however.
On October 30 2013 00:56 strongandbig wrote:
also something I didn't see from clarity - is he going to start playing more later in the game or is this all we're getting out of him? cause if he's not going to commit to ever playing differently then he really needs to replace out or get lynched tomorrow, we just can't allow someone who's playing like that to live to LYLO. but i'm okay with not lynching him today.
Bad post, doesn't say anything, says "lynch him tomorrow" when that never happens.
On October 30 2013 00:54 strongandbig wrote:
should i update koshi? we've collectively powered up everyone else who claimed an in-game power and my faith in TL towns is low enough that I think town probably gets a better deal from powering up everyone than from powering up everyone but one person.
Yet doesn't do it.
There's more but the other points, you can look at his filter, basically I don't get the feeling he actually cares about this game. He's doing a lot of posting yet not trying to change the mindset of anyone.
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I wouldn't feel comfortable starting an SnB lynch since I havne't read the whole thread, but that's where I would like to be.
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Why did we stop lynching Clarity?
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Actually Clarity brings too much suspicion to himself for my taste. Like he's like "yeah, I know I'm scummy, but w/e can't help it". Scum would justify themselves and say "No dude i have homework to do" or another excuse, but at least adress it and not give up.
He's also consistant with the mindset I'm getting from him, not sure how to describe it but sad-ish. Like not confident, still somewhat trying, etc....
And a bad case in itself isn't worthy of scum when other people are more suspicious.
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