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Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 00:46 GMT

#4022

Ok so I cant sleep. Dnu wtf that is all about.
But I am thinking that Sentinel is not scum with rayn because the nuke thing.
Also I or someone should check when rayn nuked oats. Was it before Seuss was in trouble?
Also VA is cleared with the twitter follower claim thingie imo. That and clean filter.

So it's between Kush Prome and Oats imho.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 00:47 GMT

#4023

And if it is Kush and game is not over I go for SnB.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 07:44 GMT

#4033

Do we believe that NK can be roleblocked? Most of the time that is the case right?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 08:21 GMT

#4035

On November 01 2013 08:03 Pandain wrote:
Conclusion and Overall Look

1. SnB's play is more like his play in Thug Life then TL Noir

2. SnB has been posting like a scum and not like a town. He is appearing town by posting analysis, but failing to try to catch and find scum by failing to engage in town discourse or really push his reads. He gave poor reasons for lynching WoS and I don't like how he just ignored Clarity.

3. I simply don't like his abrupt nuke on HCC

4. I don't get the feeling he genuinely cares about this game. He is on a 6 game streak and is playing not just poor but like somewhat uninterested despite all his posting.
Larger Context
Here is my current reads:
Promethelax
WaveofShadow
Pandain
[UoN]Sentinel
Oatsmaster
Koshi
strongandbig
OOHCHILD
marvellosity
Seuss Onegu
Clarity_nl
HotCottonCandy
raynpelikoneet

I believe the Mafia to be in Sentinel, Koshi, SnB, OOHchild, Seuss/Onegu, and HCC.
Let's say three scum since there are 13 people.

I'd be willing to switch from SnB to any of these people except Sentinel, but this is why I believe SnB to be scum.

These were Pandain his reads before the whole Seuss thing. But we know he was on SnB his ass like a madman.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 08:29 GMT

#4036

On November 01 2013 14:40 Pandain wrote:
I'm probably totally wrong but that's okay, if I'm wrong I'll just improve as a person and player after the game.

Promethelax
WaveofShadow
Pandain
[UoN]Sentinel
Oatsmaster
Koshi
strongandbig
OOHCHILD
marvellosity
Seuss Onegu
Clarity_nl
HotCottonCandy
raynpelikoneet

So ideally, there you have it. Assuming 3 scum and an SK, that's it.

On November 01 2013 14:40 OOHCHILD wrote:
Promethelax
]Pandain
[UoN]Sentinel
Oatsmaster
Koshi
strongandbig
OOHCHILD
marvellosity
Seuss Onegu
HotCottonCandy
raynpelikoneet

this is where im at right now

Well Pandain updated his reads. Also Kush gave reads.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 08:32 GMT

#4038

Nothing really. But it helps maybe. Like Pandain was killed for reason right?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 08:33 GMT

#4039

Page 132 makes me believe that you (Oats) are not scum. And it makes me believe that we need to lynch Kush/Snb

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 08:35 GMT

#4040

Pandain is harddefending rayn against you (Oats) while the only people he wants to push are OOHCHILD/SnB/Koshi and Seuss.

Then N2 he knows I am town and I think Pandain was on scum only except for rayn.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 08:37 GMT

#4041

So we kill Kush/SnB.

rayn is also not completely dumb. So him focussing our blues 24/7 might be a ploy to let us lynch in there. rayn only pushed marv/Oats/Prome after D1.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 08:45 GMT

#4043

Ok, but that is useless if KP is not fractional and blockable. Because marv already did a RB on Prome, so me tracking him doesn't help us.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 08:47 GMT

#4044

If hosts say that KP is blockable we don't lynch Prome. We also have to admit that both your roles are quite bad, if there is a scum Framer.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 08:47 GMT

#4045

I am feeling real good about lynching SnB/Kush atm.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 08:49 GMT

#4046

Or Sentinel for that matter. If VA could just try to convince us -_-. This VA reminds me of Persona, he was on johnnywup for the entire game but VA is no lynch pusher.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 08:51 GMT

#4047

You know what? WoS was killed because it is 9 vs 4. Scum was playing the short game, they kill WoS and get lylo in 2 misslynches.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 08:52 GMT

#4048

That's why rayn kinda showed face protecting Seuss I think.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 09:10 GMT

#4049

Oh yeah. I am totes right.

Look.
9 vs 4
8 vs 4 Clarity
7 vs 4 WoS
6 vs 4 with minus vote on Seuss that could kinda lie about his power (remember wrong use of name) and not use it to use it 1 day later. The misslynch rayn was pushing was Oats I think. But he shouldn't have nuked him 0o
5 vs 4 disaster because scum controls lynch.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 09:25 GMT

#4051

wow rayn was pushing obvious scum agenda, he was being absurd about 4 town blue roles because he wanted to lynch in there. Like the part where he was saying somebody was even lying about his ##power up and just made it up...

Kush pushed marv. SnBis apathic.

FINAL ANSWER.

(Till somebody else posts and I am not spamming alone)

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 09:26 GMT

#4052

On November 05 2013 18:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
What?
Marv isnt RBing Prome. Prome is supposed to mason people.

Marv did RB on Prome N2. If a "blue" is scum, it is 9 vs 3. Prome would have done the kill.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 10:03 GMT

#4057

I think we need to kill SnB.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

November 05 2013 10:11 GMT

#4059

I think Seuss kinda added SnB as his only scum in his reads... Imagine that.

WoS made case on SnB.
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On October 31 2013 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote:

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How am I supposed to know what affects your read and what doesn't?
Everybody needs reminders sometimes, even you, o unfallible one.

Regarding SnB:

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On October 30 2013 05:46 strongandbig wrote:

On October 30 2013 05:34 Pandain wrote:
Day one scum try to contribute and appear town, but aren't that actually dedicated.

They usually aren't retarded, think through their posts, and still don't try to help town atmosphere.

All the things a scum would do on day one I see in SnB

which of these things are not also things a townie without much time would do? i guess the thread atmosphere thing, but how am i hurting thread atmosphere?

On October 30 2013 05:42 Pandain wrote:

On October 30 2013 05:39 marvellosity wrote:

On October 30 2013 03:48 strongandbig wrote:
Also - I'm starting to worry about sentinel's mystery countdown power and why he still hasn't told us what it does. Despite calling koshi scum for not telling us what his power does.

I dunno about s&b. This post is pretty bad because Sentinel has talked about his power so many times, I don't see the point in bringing it up again.

Then again it looks like s&b actually made genuine effort to go and look at Pandain's games earlier when he talked about his big posts

Problem is SnB also made a genuine effort to point out why Palmar was scum in Thug life. SnB can go hard to explain a read he's confident in when it benefits you.

The problem is even if he did, was that in the approach to help town or to explain himself. If it's to help town, why share it when really I wasn't under any suspicion. If it's to explain himself, it makes sense to defend me as I'm town and that will be revealed later/he's ultimately right.

I don't think SnB is giving an effort to help town, I think his effort ultimately only shows that he's interested in appearing town by posting reads.

Has he really attempted to change this lynch or help drive a lynch?

dude you were on my team, you KNOW that wasn't a genuine effort because I knew palmar was scum because he was ON A TEAM WITH THE TWO OF US
also did even that case didn't involve any actual research into palmar's past games

also i forgot that sentinel claimed he doesn't know what his power does. but why is saying that scum motivated.

last thing, why would i have attempted to change the lynch when i like it

What are you referring to here exactly?

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This bothers me because I feel like a ton of people did exactly the same thing but you're trying to find a way to justify your nuke on VA.

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I suppose I understand your reasoning at the end of the post regarding why you still want me to flip, but I don't understand why you said you were unsure in the beginning.

I also don't understand---do you think OOHCHILD/Vayne/me are all scum together? Because i'm not sure that is possible.

Pandain was on SnB his ass. (remember the long ass post by post)
and ultimatly made this:
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On November 02 2013 07:44 Pandain wrote:
Honestly I think Rayn/Kush takes highest priority.

Ultimately, Oats/SnB relies on assumption logic, that scum reacted a certain way, that Oats would try to defend Seuss, that Seuss would put blame on Oats[he was pretty adamant on Oats up until he left].

It's all inference.

But I think it's ultimately less inference that WoS got shot for one of his reads. I don't think it's a far reach at all to say that he wouldn't have been shot for being town and just town, he had to have been right on something. Even if Ver was playing, if he was wrong about everything you could even keep him alive.

And he was suspicious of Rayne, so that's something. Rayn was gone during this lynch for a nap. (where's the rayn that is leading town! that loves mafia!) Rayn has a role which has several inherent powers. See Seuss's role. Also makes perfect sense for third party. Rayn has claimed to mis-read his role like 3 times. Rayn claimed a seemingly very important role, which shows a lack of fear of getting shot. Or if he was SK, then he wouldn't really need to be afraid.

All the town roles we know (Miley Cyrus; (Koshi what's yours?), President, Total Biscuit, Oprah) are all twitter celebrities. So far the scum we see, and the day post indicates, are people who have something against twitter. Anthony weiner and an old man who hates twitter makes perfect sense . I also ultimately agree that having a role which does have PM-abilities to activate his power is pretty suspicious when contrasted with the rest of us.

Day 1. Policy lynch
Day 2. Scum lynch (case)
Day 3. Scum lynch (Town leader)
Day 4. Scum lynch ( Revenge for dead townies)
Day 5. Scum surrender.

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