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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:08 GMT
#2474
On November 01 2013 01:07 HotCottonCandy wrote:
nuke whoever you think is less scummy and then we lynch the other.

I would go with doublestacking kush and lynching onegu.

Excuse me? Last I heard you thought Seuss was a newbie playing without malice, and Pandain was the mafia vote alterer?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:12 GMT
#2476
Then "we" lynch the other. Just giving up on your scumreads because Koshi and I talked about Seuss a little bit?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:13 GMT
#2479
On November 01 2013 01:12 Promethelax wrote:
marv, do you know off hand who else still has nukes besides me and you (well obviously you don't anymore but yeah)

me/you/rayn/Seuss(Onegu)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:13 GMT
#2480
On November 01 2013 01:12 HotCottonCandy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 01:12 marvellosity wrote:
Then "we" lynch the other. Just giving up on your scumreads because Koshi and I talked about Seuss a little bit?


nah I would still rather rayn or sentinel get lynched but it's not gonna happen. have to be reasonable here

Nothing to do with being reasonable - the lynch today is so far away from being set in stone it's unbelievable, and you're not bothered about pushing your main scumsuspects?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:16 GMT
#2484
On November 01 2013 01:15 HotCottonCandy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 01:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:12 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:12 marvellosity wrote:
Then "we" lynch the other. Just giving up on your scumreads because Koshi and I talked about Seuss a little bit?


nah I would still rather rayn or sentinel get lynched but it's not gonna happen. have to be reasonable here

Nothing to do with being reasonable - the lynch today is so far away from being set in stone it's unbelievable, and you're not bothered about pushing your main scumsuspects?


With my limited availability atm it's much closer for me. I'm here until lunch then I usually come online at night and then I won't be here tomorrow before the deadline.

No, that's not what I mean. I mean that it's not totally obvious who we're lynching today, but you're already pathetically giving up on your mafia suspects because they "aren't going to happen".

You've not even tried to make anything happen!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:19 GMT
#2487
Vayne, I don't care if you're smurfing or not, but this is uncommonly passive by anyone's standards :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:21 GMT
#2490
On November 01 2013 01:20 HotCottonCandy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 01:16 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:15 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:12 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:12 marvellosity wrote:
Then "we" lynch the other. Just giving up on your scumreads because Koshi and I talked about Seuss a little bit?


nah I would still rather rayn or sentinel get lynched but it's not gonna happen. have to be reasonable here

Nothing to do with being reasonable - the lynch today is so far away from being set in stone it's unbelievable, and you're not bothered about pushing your main scumsuspects?


With my limited availability atm it's much closer for me. I'm here until lunch then I usually come online at night and then I won't be here tomorrow before the deadline.

No, that's not what I mean. I mean that it's not totally obvious who we're lynching today, but you're already pathetically giving up on your mafia suspects because they "aren't going to happen".

You've not even tried to make anything happen!


Oh I see

well that just isn't my style in any case, until I have power over the thread I don't usually hard push anything. So it's not like this is something new or crazy. So why don't you want to lynch rayn/sentinel at this point?

You usually have mafia suspects and go "well let's lynch someone else because meh" 30 hours before lynchtime?

Can rayn/Koshi confirm this is typical behaviour?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:24 GMT
#2492
On November 01 2013 01:23 OOHCHILD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 01:20 Promethelax wrote:
Did you come back to this thread just to argue with me about how much you work?


Did you?? because that's all you are doing. you started it.
I complained. My complaining was justified because i was trying to excuse my shittiness.
Then you complain about my complaining which is even worse than the complaining to begin with.

Save your breath, you did the same in Noir and Sicilian, so it certainly isn't any sort of excuse for anything.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:32 GMT
#2499
On November 01 2013 01:24 HotCottonCandy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:20 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:16 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:15 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:12 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:12 marvellosity wrote:
Then "we" lynch the other. Just giving up on your scumreads because Koshi and I talked about Seuss a little bit?


nah I would still rather rayn or sentinel get lynched but it's not gonna happen. have to be reasonable here

Nothing to do with being reasonable - the lynch today is so far away from being set in stone it's unbelievable, and you're not bothered about pushing your main scumsuspects?


With my limited availability atm it's much closer for me. I'm here until lunch then I usually come online at night and then I won't be here tomorrow before the deadline.

No, that's not what I mean. I mean that it's not totally obvious who we're lynching today, but you're already pathetically giving up on your mafia suspects because they "aren't going to happen".

You've not even tried to make anything happen!


Oh I see

well that just isn't my style in any case, until I have power over the thread I don't usually hard push anything. So it's not like this is something new or crazy. So why don't you want to lynch rayn/sentinel at this point?

You usually have mafia suspects and go "well let's lynch someone else because meh" 30 hours before lynchtime?

Can rayn/Koshi confirm this is typical behaviour?


I don't think meh is the correct word here, I honestly just don't want to deal with a replacement right now in this game I'm already struggling to keep tabs on the players. It's on some one ive flipped flopped back and forth all game, you don't see why I would be fine with getting rid of him?

When you literally have 3 other mafia suspects and you've called the player in question most recently likely town, no, I don't see why you would be fine getting rid of him just like that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:37 GMT
#2502
Well, people seemed to think I was overstating my points on rayn. Koshi doesn't seem *that* interested, I'd expect him to be more interested if I were on to something. He might still be mafia, but I'm not sure enough on him to push anything like that at the moment, I'd rather give him time to display his true colours.

Sentinel does fit the 3p bill, also I think we'll have a lot more information on his alignment when the nukes get used today, if any of them land, so it doesn't seem to be wise to lynch him right now. strongandbig was bang on with his meta analysis of Sentinel as well, he was much more serious in Noir than he has been in this game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:37 GMT
#2503
On November 01 2013 01:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Sure thanks for all these wonderful cases about me being scum. Such good play. Such townie play. Oohooh

Just like your rockin' case on s&b you mean? Give me a break Oats.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:47 GMT
#2508
I literally said Prome
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:48 GMT
#2509
yeah Onegu should at least try to use his nuke.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:59 GMT
#2511
On November 01 2013 01:55 Promethelax wrote:
No you said the meta was right. Sent is playing dis-similarly to how he played previously as scum. He is also playing dis-similarly to how he has played as town. So is the meta conclusion 3P? Like I get that you agree that SnB is right about the meta change in Sent's play; I just don't get what you believe about Sent because of that.

Fits 3p because of his role, meta is dissimilar to last mafia game
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 17:02 GMT
#2513
Yeah, I don't know why Oats has opted out of discussing anything apart from his not-very-impressive push on s&b
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 17:21 GMT
#2517
On November 01 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 02:09 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 09:59 HotCottonCandy wrote:
I honestly don't see anything egregious about Seuss' posting that makes me want to lynch him before a lot of other people. He just seems unsure of himself, I don't think that is scummy. Would scum purposely be that wishy-washy and avoid "important" discussion as you put it? I think that is more person indicative and not alignment.

You still stand by this HCC? Because if Seuss is town, he must have been extremely clueless this game. There was nothing in his filter about that, it was all "I am a mathematician and an analyst, I know precisely what I am doing".

You think I am over thinking his actions in my cases on him?
Like his behavior around Oats/Me, Sentinel/WoS?



@Oats
You didn't say anything about my cases on Seuss. At least Kush was honest. You don't have to spare my feelings.


Yea I still think it's true but getting rid of null people isn't a worst case scenario, especially a replacement. If you guys want to change your mind and lynch anyone of sent/rayn/pandain/oats I would gladly do it tho.

I have troubles believing rayn is scum. There are sentences I think he wouldn't use as scum.

Oats I can totally lynch. I believe he is scum with Seuss. There are connections I simply can't ignore, and in the case Seuss is town he has a scumread on Oats so lynching Oats is fine. Also Clarity must really have believed in that Oats case so...

Sentinel I don't know. I don't understand why 3p will use it's power so fast and what his wincon is.

Pandain... You think he is scum now? Same level of confidence as your scumread on him in Thug life? Because rayn thinks he is town strangely enough.

Could you give some examples and also explain why you think he wouldn't say them as mafia?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 17:43 GMT
#2521
On November 01 2013 02:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 02:21 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:09 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 09:59 HotCottonCandy wrote:
I honestly don't see anything egregious about Seuss' posting that makes me want to lynch him before a lot of other people. He just seems unsure of himself, I don't think that is scummy. Would scum purposely be that wishy-washy and avoid "important" discussion as you put it? I think that is more person indicative and not alignment.

You still stand by this HCC? Because if Seuss is town, he must have been extremely clueless this game. There was nothing in his filter about that, it was all "I am a mathematician and an analyst, I know precisely what I am doing".

You think I am over thinking his actions in my cases on him?
Like his behavior around Oats/Me, Sentinel/WoS?



@Oats
You didn't say anything about my cases on Seuss. At least Kush was honest. You don't have to spare my feelings.


Yea I still think it's true but getting rid of null people isn't a worst case scenario, especially a replacement. If you guys want to change your mind and lynch anyone of sent/rayn/pandain/oats I would gladly do it tho.

I have troubles believing rayn is scum. There are sentences I think he wouldn't use as scum.

Oats I can totally lynch. I believe he is scum with Seuss. There are connections I simply can't ignore, and in the case Seuss is town he has a scumread on Oats so lynching Oats is fine. Also Clarity must really have believed in that Oats case so...

Sentinel I don't know. I don't understand why 3p will use it's power so fast and what his wincon is.

Pandain... You think he is scum now? Same level of confidence as your scumread on him in Thug life? Because rayn thinks he is town strangely enough.

Could you give some examples and also explain why you think he wouldn't say them as mafia?

Yeah... Hard to find them. I can't really quote them now and explain it.
But I think rayn will prove himself.


And the reasons why you people say rayn is scum are pure meta. Give me examples where he is hardpushing bad lynches? His case on WoS was honest and not bad. You said so yourself instantly after he made it marv, you sheeped him.

Sure, I though he would be mad after he came back and Clarity flipped town, (and I think he would flip town because I believe in Clarity his sincerity and honesty about not being scum, but WoS was also not looking scummy anymore and I wanted a switch), and then his lynch WoS wasn't going through. Just like in previous games in which he was mad then. But he came back before lynch and felt THE EXACT SAME THING WE ALL FELT, which was don't lynch WoS. So that isn't scummy at all and I don't understand why you want rayn to be a pushy fucker that only wants his lynch to go through or you give him a scumread...

This isn't very useful, you have insight into his alignment and I want to know what it is, "can't find them" and "he'll prove himself" isn't any insight that helps me at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 17:45 GMT
#2522
Koshi, to your last paragraph, it's because I (perhaps unfairly) have the image of rayn of pushing his lynches like fuck around lynchtime come what may.

I agree it is not scummy to not want to lynch WoS in that situation. But the way he disappeared and left it to other people... well, I've discussed this, not going to rehash.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 18:39 GMT
#2528
On November 01 2013 03:33 OOHCHILD wrote:
can someone please share with me why sentinel isn't being lynched? anyone have a townread on him for any reason?

This is what I said if you're interested:
On November 01 2013 01:37 marvellosity wrote:
Sentinel does fit the 3p bill, also I think we'll have a lot more information on his alignment when the nukes get used today, if any of them land, so it doesn't seem to be wise to lynch him right now. strongandbig was bang on with his meta analysis of Sentinel as well, he was much more serious in Noir than he has been in this game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 21:54 GMT
#2537
I didn't know either, but it's just come to me in a Eureka moment.

Signal to noise ratio.
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