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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 10:53 GMT
#4361
On November 06 2013 19:53 Koshi wrote:
Btw, they did RB on Oats N1. They all powered up Oats and then RB on him.

Since when?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 06 2013 10:54 GMT
#4362
On November 06 2013 19:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 19:53 Koshi wrote:
Btw, they did RB on Oats N1. They all powered up Oats and then RB on him.

Since when?

The game makes sense to me now.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 10:54 GMT
#4363
So you're basically just making shit up?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 06 2013 10:54 GMT
#4364
This game is solved for me. Oats is not scum.

2 out of SnB/Kush/Sentinel are.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 10:55 GMT
#4365
We'll humour you tomorrow. Meanwhile we'll kill the actual mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 10:55 GMT
#4366
Literally everything you wrote in the last page is wild conjecture.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 06 2013 11:03 GMT
#4367
I am certain it is like this. If it isn't I am sad because this would be a Sherlock Holmes ending to this game.

We could have this
1) Policy lynch
2) Scum lynch
3) Scum lynch
4) Scum lynch -> Scum surrender

But now we will have
1) Policy lynch
2) Scum lynch
3) Scum lynch
4) marv is butthurt lynch
5) Scum lynch
6) town lynch because we will pick the town out of SnB/Kush/Sentinel
7) we pray too jeebus for a scum lynch
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 11:06 GMT
#4368
It's literally nothing to do with me being butthurt, and you're a bit of an asshole for suggesting it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 11:07 GMT
#4369
The fact his attitude towards me is unnatural doesn't mean I'm butthurt.

It does give me extra pleasure in lynching him though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 11:08 GMT
#4370
I recall you telling me rayn was town at various stages through this game as well.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 11:14 GMT
#4371
On November 06 2013 06:03 marvellosity wrote:
Oats' attitude towards me has been completely unnatural given I just lynched Seuss + rayn

Just like rayn's attitude towards me was completely unnatural after I lynched Seuss.

Say Oats is town and I am wrong. Firstly, Oats knows with pretty much total certainty that I am town, if he is town. I just lynched two scum. So there is no reason to nitpick at me for saying earlier on that I wasn't that sure who the mafia were. He tried to make a thing of it over several posts. Then he said there are several weird things in my massive filter. Like... he's just poking at me because he's angry that I'm on to him.

He also wouldn't get irrationally angry at me when I was bringing up suspicions. See how I brought up the "sorry" thing. I didn't even say it was the scummiest thing ever, I just found it and mentioned it was interesting. But Oats launches into me and calls me retarded and bad and whatever else shit it was. This isn't the natural reaction of a townie in that situation at all. Laughing at me could be a natural reaction. Trying to explain to me could be a natural reaction. Almost anything is a natural reaction other than telling the dude who just pushed rayn through that he's bad and a retard and he doesn't care to read his posts. Town Oats may be *frustrated* with me, but he wouldn't be a massive dick.

No, no, no. He's scum.

On November 06 2013 01:56 marvellosity wrote:
I mean there's tonnes of "legit stuff" anyway.

Seuss' incredibly weird behaviour towards you.
Your drop-off in activity day 2 + not having an idea who is mafia until prodded.
Your total failure to address the Seuss case other than "koshi looks better for posting this" or whatever it was.
You saying that what Onegu wrote on Koshi was "good" when it was clearly trash.
You going "oh i'm unsure with all this rayn/onegu/koshi stuff" and then voting for Onegu only when I shouted at you.
Calling me suspicious for stupid things like saying I'm not sure who mafia is today when there's not a single reason why I can be at all suspicious right now.

I mean I'm sure there's plenty of other stuff too, that's off the top of my head.

It's enough.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 06 2013 11:15 GMT
#4372
I don't like it. At all.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 11:16 GMT
#4373
don't care tbh, the case is extremely strong.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 11:21 GMT
#4374
Like, just glancing over the OP, there is almost certainly a 3p, and the setup almost certainly isn't 8-4-1 because that would be really really stupid.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 11:24 GMT
#4375
I bet you my TL signature that the setup isn't 9-4, I bet everything I know of mafia and the universe.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 06 2013 11:24 GMT
#4376
On November 06 2013 20:21 marvellosity wrote:
Like, just glancing over the OP, there is almost certainly a 3p, and the setup almost certainly isn't 8-4-1 because that would be really really stupid.

The OP is a lie.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 11:25 GMT
#4377
no, it isn't.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 06 2013 11:25 GMT
#4378
On November 06 2013 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
I bet you my TL signature that the setup isn't 9-4, I bet everything I know of mafia and the universe.

ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. Noted down. In return I will give you town MVP if we finish before D5 ends.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 06 2013 11:28 GMT
#4379
Sounds like a fair deal. Because if the game ends by then Oats is mafia and I deserve it, if it hasn't ended then I was wrong and you'll deserve it for telling me so :x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 06 2013 11:52 GMT
#4380
This is why 9 vs 4 makes sense to me.

Scum starts with 4 members
They look at their powers and understand that they can win the game when it is 5 vs 4.
They see that there are 4 town blues asking for power ups.
They plan to lynch into them on Day 2 and win the game Day 3 (5 vs 4) using Seuss his minus vote which he lied about. Both marv and VA are showing willingness to lynch into the blues during the first cycle. Mafia plan to win on Day 3 is looking perfect.
Day 2 starts with Pandain giving out his reads and giving SnB/Kush/Seuss/Koshi scumreads, you can see that rayn from harddefending Pandain the entire Day 1, goes to “Koshi let’s talk about Pandain again” because his reads are good. At the end of Day 2 Pandain gave you reasons to why Oats is town, at the end of Night 2 Pandain ended with:
On November 02 2013 07:44 Pandain wrote:
Honestly I think Rayn/Kush takes highest priority.

Ultimately, Oats/SnB relies on assumption logic, that scum reacted a certain way, that Oats would try to defend Seuss, that Seuss would put blame on Oats[he was pretty adamant on Oats up until he left].

It's all inference.

But I think it's ultimately less inference that WoS got shot for one of his reads. I don't think it's a far reach at all to say that he wouldn't have been shot for being town and just town, he had to have been right on something. Even if Ver was playing, if he was wrong about everything you could even keep him alive.

And he was suspicious of Rayne, so that's something. Rayn was gone during this lynch for a nap. (where's the rayn that is leading town! that loves mafia!) Rayn has a role which has several inherent powers. See Seuss's role. Also makes perfect sense for third party. Rayn has claimed to mis-read his role like 3 times. Rayn claimed a seemingly very important role, which shows a lack of fear of getting shot. Or if he was SK, then he wouldn't really need to be afraid.

All the town roles we know (Miley Cyrus; (Koshi what's yours?), President, Total Biscuit, Oprah) are all twitter celebrities. So far the scum we see, and the day post indicates, are people who have something against twitter. Anthony weiner and an old man who hates twitter makes perfect sense . I also ultimately agree that having a role which does have PM-abilities to activate his power is pretty suspicious when contrasted with the rest of us.

Probably last scummers are to be found here: rayn, Kush, Oats and SnB.

But with scum only being with 3 and Sentinel not being scum, how did scum know that the nukes were fakes? Rayn would not buss Oats so early and Onegu would have shot his nuke. They must have been 100% certain that the nukes had to be fake. And without Sentinel being scum that means that there are 4 scummers.
Seuss, Rayn, 2 out of SnB/Sentinel/Kush or only Sentinel.
I had a good night of sleep.
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