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On October 31 2013 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like there are 3 people Vayne can read. me, Koshi and Pandain.
What does he do. He writes some bullshit about me. Who can tell me why that's bullshit?
He says literally nothing about Koshi and Pandain besides "they have not done anything". Which is not even true.
So is he mafia?
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On October 31 2013 03:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Actually marv wasn't there a point where you told me to not twerk?
yes, I forgot about that (but remembered earlier after I forgot), so consider yourself un-told off.
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I feel the same way as Vayne about Pandain.
It's not so much that he's done nothing but he's been irrelevant or afk at strange moments or saying strange things. Like I commented a little earlier about how he said s&b was "objectively" scummy for "reasons already mentioned" (my paraphrase). imo town tend to look past "objectively" whereas it's an easy thing to push as mafia.
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On October 31 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 03:33 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:30 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:26 Promethelax wrote:
Vayne, did you just make semi arbitrary lists and POE each one individually? I seriously can't agree with any of your conclusions based on the way you went about getting them.
Can you go back and read players based on their play and not on gaming the set up. kthx. tbh that's what Vayne does. But his reads on PAndain, Koshi and me are so bad. god.. Don't really agree tbh. Which do you not agree with? i could see Pandain as mafia. i can see you as mafia and what he said about you wasn't incorrect either. the koshi stuff was weakish in that it was too reliant on Pandain, but meh. That, marv, is bullshit about me. Just because you have happened to play with me only in games where i have been scum lately does not make what Vayne say true. He says what you guys want to hear. That's not a read. Listen to Koshi, he actually knows what he is talking about.
yeah, koshi said you would be mad that i wanted to lynch clarity over WoS and you were totally fine about it.
that's me listening to koshi.
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On October 31 2013 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 03:38 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:33 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 31 2013 03:30 marvellosity wrote:
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Don't really agree tbh. Which do you not agree with? i could see Pandain as mafia. i can see you as mafia and what he said about you wasn't incorrect either. the koshi stuff was weakish in that it was too reliant on Pandain, but meh. That, marv, is bullshit about me. Just because you have happened to play with me only in games where i have been scum lately does not make what Vayne say true. He says what you guys want to hear. That's not a read. Listen to Koshi, he actually knows what he is talking about. yeah, koshi said you would be mad that i wanted to lynch clarity over WoS and you were totally fine about it. that's me listening to koshi. On October 31 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
VA - your read on kush(?) assumes that he wouldn't be aggressive like that and risk being shot in the face. If he is kush i highly doubt he'd put much thought into 'oh shit it's closed setup there could be vigis abound and I will die.'
Rayn - Your reasoning on me isn't amazing because the only reason I got back an hour before deadline is because my lab ended early. No other reason than that---if it hadn't then I would have been dead and flipped blue. It nothing to do with my attitude. You actually made posts that made sense. How the fuck is that not a reason to not lynch you? It's irrelevant why you got back. Are you saying i am scum because your posts were bad and i should have lynched you? What the fuck is that kinda logic? I'm not saying you are scum, but I am inquiring as to this post: Because Wave got back before the deadline and didn't roll over and die and made good posts. Clarity fucked off when people said he is town. Would you have changed your mind if I didn't get back the second time? Because as far as I know your vote was still on me before that second period an hour before deadline, so clearly my 'good posts' before that point weren't enough, meaning that it was probably the 'not fucking off' component you took into account--->which was only luck timing-wise on my part. Can you explain? First time you martyred. Second time you actually gave us something. Yes, if you didn't come back the second time i would have lynched you. It wasn't martyring, for the 1000th time. I didn't have a proper scumread and didn't want to throw my vote on anybody at random to avoid getting modkilled. I completely disagree. I feel I attempted to provide just as much the first time I got back as the second; it seems the second time people were just more willing to listen and not all up in a frenzy for whatever reason. Maybe me included I suppose.
In fairness I agree the 2nd time was better than your 1st time which was pretty lame.
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The problem with rayn is 2-fold.
Firstly, whether we believe that he was convinced that Wave was town. This is one debate. It is possible.
The second, which has been neglected to be mentioned so far, is that if 1) is true, then it took me wanting to lynch someone else for rayn to move. rayn did not initiate the move away from WoS himself. Basically he was happy to lynch WoS until I suggested Clarity. He either believed WoS was town in which case he should try to move the lynch himself rather than wait for me, or he doesn't.
It is very important to note that rayn didn't post for almost a whole hour before this post
On October 30 2013 05:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm in. At least Wave seems to be giving us something later on.
##Unvote
##Vote: Clarity_nl
So it's not like I jumped in super quickly or something. rayn sat on his vote for almost an hour and then changed when I said lynch Clarity. He didn't take his initiative to do it himself
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don't ignore the post i just made / let it get lost, i think it's important
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Ugh, I'll think more about rayn later
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No more martyr semantics debates please
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On October 31 2013 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 04:28 OOHCHILD wrote:
WoS strikes me as someone who is pretty careful and calculating and his nuke just looked so fucking weird.
He couldn't stfu about how bad it was to use nukes, then he used one...
Rayne is sitting in the thread jumping on the easiest shit possible. Very very very very very unlike his townplay this game. What happened to your spam Rayne?
HotCottonCandy looks like a shit sundae.
im out until i finish this exam later tongiht. Spam went away. What do you suggest i do? Jump all over marv like you did on D1 with retarded shit you know is not true in the first place. Or if you did believe that i have no idea what to tell you. If people look town to me they do look town to me, if they look scummy they do look scummy. Regardless of who they are. And my scum meta btw is to attack strong players in case you have not noticed. Go look at WHWC and who i accused on D1. Go look at Noir who i accused and lynched on D4. Go look at Catch 22 and who i accused on D1-N1. Go look at GoT and what i did the whole game. I don't let town play like they want to, so unless you think marv/Prome or both are scum with me you are full of shit with your argument.
Whether you're town or mafia, this is a really poor meta defence.
World Heavyweights you primarily attacked Dirk (not influential or active) and Holyflare (new player)
This game you casually put suspicion on me early, and you know it would be suicide to attack me or Prome later.
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On October 31 2013 04:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 04:48 Promethelax wrote:
I'm so hostile all the time.
I don't really like that you have done dick all game besides play with your role and go after kush. Others seem to have tried to find scum. Do you have any reads besides OOH? Wouldn't mind getting rid of WaveofShadow as well.
Someone press this read if I'm dead tonight.
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Pandain looks terrible to me right now too. Just such little... oomph to his game.
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On October 31 2013 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If i am a one-shot vigi i shot Oats.
If i am a tracker i tracked Candyman.
If i am a roleblcoker i blocked OOHCHILD.
If i am not lying about my power i didn't do any of those.
I missed where you explained this role before, so you have ##relegate and ##delegate and some random power thingy?
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On October 31 2013 05:54 Pandain wrote:
I don't think your scum but I'll challenge that assumption:
How?
Yeah I haven't made real long posts, but I've been posting. And they've actually been good contrary to what you guys believe, even early on my posts were good for the time being. I'm pretty confident in my town reads and pretty sure there's at least one scum in SnB-Seuss; I warned against Clarity(although admittedly wasn't completely sure, just wouldn't have lynched him)
If you're looking for extreme confidence I won't have it; I'm not scum and I don't know the definitive answer. But what do you mean I don't have oomph
This is the type of bullshit you said in Noir, you just kept calling your posts good and yourself town.
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On October 31 2013 05:57 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 05:54 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If i am a one-shot vigi i shot Oats.
If i am a tracker i tracked Candyman.
If i am a roleblcoker i blocked OOHCHILD.
If i am not lying about my power i didn't do any of those.
I missed where you explained this role before, so you have ##relegate and ##delegate and some random power thingy? marvellosity if i was scum in this game i would be all over you because you fail to notice every important thing i say about my role and make incredibly retarded comments about it and don't seem to be thinking about anything at all. I am sorry but what are you? Could you even think about what you post before you do?
No, just because I miss things doesn't make me scum, and I look extraordinarily town. This is an awful post.
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The point is, "if" you were scum, you would not be all over me, because I'd lynch you immediately for it.
So don't make that kind of bad argument.
Are you going to answer my question about your role or do I have to filter you?
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On October 31 2013 05:57 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 05:55 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 05:54 Pandain wrote:
I don't think your scum but I'll challenge that assumption:
How?
Yeah I haven't made real long posts, but I've been posting. And they've actually been good contrary to what you guys believe, even early on my posts were good for the time being. I'm pretty confident in my town reads and pretty sure there's at least one scum in SnB-Seuss; I warned against Clarity(although admittedly wasn't completely sure, just wouldn't have lynched him)
If you're looking for extreme confidence I won't have it; I'm not scum and I don't know the definitive answer. But what do you mean I don't have oomph This is the type of bullshit you said in Noir, you just kept calling your posts good and yourself town. To be fair, Marv, I'm not the one who lynched Clarity for pretty poor reasoning.
What does this post mean? I point out something you did as mafia very recently, you point out I lynched someone I didn't really think was scum just like my last town game, literally that you were in?
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Well, that's some anti-climatic night actions :p
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On October 31 2013 06:02 HotCottonCandy wrote:
some one took away my ability to charge anyone up today. Cant use ## besides voting.
I thought you claimed VT?
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oh I see, charge other people up. My bad.
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