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On October 30 2013 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
StrongandBig where the hell are you and why did you say exactly what i did about Pandain after you had read my comment about him and his play this game???
I'm in class you assdouche. Go take a chill pull. Preferably a suppository.
I assume you're referring to this post:
On October 29 2013 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi:
This is what Pandain's town play looks like:
Q/A, Q/A, Q/A, Q/A, summarization of his reads, Q/A, Q/A, Q/A, Q/A, summarization, maybe some sort of a case, repeat.
This is what Pandain's scum play looks like:
stuff, some weak reads, stuff, stuff, a case on someone, stuff, some defences against thread sentiment (usually on townies), soft buss, stuff, stuff, stuff, defence.. repeat from after the "a case on someone".
At some point that falls apart because he busses so much. When Pandain busses he does not really intend to lynch his scumbuddies. He does also defend a lot of people just for the sake of defending. You catch him when he has bussed someone and when they are up for a lynch he suddenly doesn't want to lynch them anymore (see Thug life and Palmar).
This actually isn't the same as what I said, what I'm talking about is the tone of the cases and summaries in his longer posts whereas i read your post as being about whether or not hes asking questions and whether hes mixing soft busses with "defenses against thread sentiment." I was pretty specific and so were you. I agree they are similar though.
Even if they were exactly the same, I would have posted my thing anyway because I want people to know what my thought process and analysis were. When I was making up my mind about pandain I did it without thinking about what you or other people said about him, I was looking at the evidence and making my own read.
Are you claiming that you think I just took your conclusion and then spent twenty minutes making it more specific, reading old games and filters and getting the evidence for it that you didn't, because that's easier than making up some shit? Or is it maybe more likely that I happened to come to a similar analysis as you?
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On October 30 2013 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:26 strongandbig wrote:On October 30 2013 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
StrongandBig where the hell are you and why did you say exactly what i did about Pandain after you had read my comment about him and his play this game???
I'm in class you assdouche. Go take a chill pull. Preferably a suppository. I assume you're referring to this post: On October 29 2013 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi:
This is what Pandain's town play looks like:
Q/A, Q/A, Q/A, Q/A, summarization of his reads, Q/A, Q/A, Q/A, Q/A, summarization, maybe some sort of a case, repeat.
This is what Pandain's scum play looks like:
stuff, some weak reads, stuff, stuff, a case on someone, stuff, some defences against thread sentiment (usually on townies), soft buss, stuff, stuff, stuff, defence.. repeat from after the "a case on someone".
At some point that falls apart because he busses so much. When Pandain busses he does not really intend to lynch his scumbuddies. He does also defend a lot of people just for the sake of defending. You catch him when he has bussed someone and when they are up for a lynch he suddenly doesn't want to lynch them anymore (see Thug life and Palmar). This actually isn't the same as what I said, what I'm talking about is the tone of the cases and summaries in his longer posts whereas i read your post as being about whether or not hes asking questions and whether hes mixing soft busses with "defenses against thread sentiment." I was pretty specific and so were you. I agree they are similar though. Even if they were exactly the same, I would have posted my thing anyway because I want people to know what my thought process and analysis were. When I was making up my mind about pandain I did it without thinking about what you or other people said about him, I was looking at the evidence and making my own read. Are you claiming that you think I just took your conclusion and then spent twenty minutes making it more specific, reading old games and filters and getting the evidence for it that you didn't, because that's easier than making up some shit? Or is it maybe more likely that I happened to come to a similar analysis as you? No i don't. I would have expected you to say something about my post or me when you made a post quite similar. Is there a reason you didn't?
I was writing out my thought process and giving evidence in that post, not evaluating the opinions of others. More importantly, I didn't take notes when I read through the thread, so picking through and finding what each person said would have been a waste of time and effort.
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@marv devils advocate - what if wave didnt want to lynch Seuss bc he has warm fuzzy feelings from coaching his noob game
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Also - I'm starting to worry about sentinel's mystery countdown power and why he still hasn't told us what it does. Despite calling koshi scum for not telling us what his power does.
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On October 30 2013 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 05:32 Seuss wrote:On October 30 2013 05:14 Koshi wrote:On October 30 2013 05:13 Seuss wrote:On October 30 2013 04:52 Koshi wrote:
Seuss
Why did you not say anything about the ##Boost power from WoS? I wasn't here at the time he used it, and when I got back he wasn't here and no one had commented on it. Meanwhile, what would later become the OOHCHILD/Clarity fiasco was underway so I dove right into that. So you read it while catching up and didn't think it was worthwhile to talk about? Did you believe WoS actually used a power on you? I thought it was possible but as I had zero information about what he did and it had been completely ignored, I filed it away and moved on. For that matter, why didn't you or anyone else comment on it? Fuck buddying, do people honestly think Seuss is scum after this post? So fucking transparent about everything he does---yeah it could be faked I suppose but not to the degree he's taken the questioning from people. SnB---you know...I think i actually like my vote on him. His case on me isn't one at all. He defends me to Prome and then just says 'I like Rayn's case better' without adding anything of his own. And then this: Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:45 strongandbig wrote:
@marv devils advocate - what if wave didnt want to lynch Seuss bc he has warm fuzzy feelings from coaching his noob game Why does he keep defending me? More than anything it looks like he is pre-shifting responsibility for when I flip blue, even though he could have just sheeped me and not had any responsibility to BEGIN with because he had NO hand in my lynch! Pre-assumed guilt is forcing him to do this imo....SnB could very well indeed be scum. Defending a mislynch as scum doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless you see it from that perspective---he is trying to hedge his bets while trying to be on the 'right' side of town.
im not defending you
the attitude that if i agree with someone's conclusions i have to agree with all of their logic is one of the many silly tropes in mafia
also i guess i didnt vote yet
##vote: waveofshadow
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On October 30 2013 05:34 Pandain wrote:
Day one scum try to contribute and appear town, but aren't that actually dedicated.
They usually aren't retarded, think through their posts, and still don't try to help town atmosphere.
All the things a scum would do on day one I see in SnB
which of these things are not also things a townie without much time would do? i guess the thread atmosphere thing, but how am i hurting thread atmosphere?
On October 30 2013 05:42 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 05:39 marvellosity wrote:On October 30 2013 03:48 strongandbig wrote:
Also - I'm starting to worry about sentinel's mystery countdown power and why he still hasn't told us what it does. Despite calling koshi scum for not telling us what his power does. I dunno about s&b. This post is pretty bad because Sentinel has talked about his power so many times, I don't see the point in bringing it up again. Then again it looks like s&b actually made genuine effort to go and look at Pandain's games earlier when he talked about his big posts Problem is SnB also made a genuine effort to point out why Palmar was scum in Thug life. SnB can go hard to explain a read he's confident in when it benefits you. The problem is even if he did, was that in the approach to help town or to explain himself. If it's to help town, why share it when really I wasn't under any suspicion. If it's to explain himself, it makes sense to defend me as I'm town and that will be revealed later/he's ultimately right. I don't think SnB is giving an effort to help town, I think his effort ultimately only shows that he's interested in appearing town by posting reads. Has he really attempted to change this lynch or help drive a lynch?
dude you were on my team, you KNOW that wasn't a genuine effort because I knew palmar was scum because he was ON A TEAM WITH THE TWO OF US
also did even that case didn't involve any actual research into palmar's past games
also i forgot that sentinel claimed he doesn't know what his power does. but why is saying that scum motivated.
last thing, why would i have attempted to change the lynch when i like it
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On October 30 2013 05:43 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 05:41 strongandbig wrote:On October 30 2013 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 30 2013 05:32 Seuss wrote:On October 30 2013 05:14 Koshi wrote:On October 30 2013 05:13 Seuss wrote:On October 30 2013 04:52 Koshi wrote:
Seuss
Why did you not say anything about the ##Boost power from WoS? I wasn't here at the time he used it, and when I got back he wasn't here and no one had commented on it. Meanwhile, what would later become the OOHCHILD/Clarity fiasco was underway so I dove right into that. So you read it while catching up and didn't think it was worthwhile to talk about? Did you believe WoS actually used a power on you? I thought it was possible but as I had zero information about what he did and it had been completely ignored, I filed it away and moved on. For that matter, why didn't you or anyone else comment on it? Fuck buddying, do people honestly think Seuss is scum after this post? So fucking transparent about everything he does---yeah it could be faked I suppose but not to the degree he's taken the questioning from people. SnB---you know...I think i actually like my vote on him. His case on me isn't one at all. He defends me to Prome and then just says 'I like Rayn's case better' without adding anything of his own. And then this: On October 30 2013 03:45 strongandbig wrote:
@marv devils advocate - what if wave didnt want to lynch Seuss bc he has warm fuzzy feelings from coaching his noob game Why does he keep defending me? More than anything it looks like he is pre-shifting responsibility for when I flip blue, even though he could have just sheeped me and not had any responsibility to BEGIN with because he had NO hand in my lynch! Pre-assumed guilt is forcing him to do this imo....SnB could very well indeed be scum. Defending a mislynch as scum doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless you see it from that perspective---he is trying to hedge his bets while trying to be on the 'right' side of town. im not defending you the attitude that if i agree with someone's conclusions i have to agree with all of their logic is one of the many silly tropes in mafia also i guess i didnt vote yet ##vote: waveofshadow Where did you get that from? I am more inclined to agree with someone's conclusions or logic if they have the same process of thought at the time as me when I am town---such as marv. Nice of you to rejoin us though.
what i mean is i can think that promethelax's reasons are bad and still think you are scum
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um what does your power do
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well, i can't help anymore apparently
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yeah if people are telling the truths about their powers then clarity gets lynched i think
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only rayn oats and oo are voting wos now
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i got a nuke too
and i definitely didnt count down
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why dont we just like nuke everyone except marv?
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um, wait a sec marv. why would he think "oh i have a power that decreases numbers by 1, let's use it on marv to help him pay his power costs" - wouldnt the natural thought be "oh i have a power that increases numbers by 1, lets use it to give people more kp/votes/hp/whatever?"
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I just realized, the nukes run out in 12 hours so that means like 5am, I'm gonna have to nuke someone before I go to sleep (or not at all)
Unless I'm wrong, wos, ooh child and pandain are already getting nuked right?
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Currently considering nuking sent cause I'm not sure I believe his story about his power and I don't like the contradiction with how he acted towards koshi's asking for powerups; rayn because of the Marv power thing and also for the lulz; and koshi cause of the whole "x number of people with powers that need to be charged up" thing and also cause I don't trust him (after he won that one game as SK I feel like his ability to look town as scum far outweighs his ability to find scum as town).
Actually we should probably nuke both koshi and sent to resolve that for good.
Comments?
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Actually we should probably just nuke all the suspicious slash scummy people, right? I'm fine getting nuked as long as we spread the nukes out enough so that only a few people are still alive and they're super townie.
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