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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 07:56 GMT
#2761
I think this kush's role discussion is extremely useless because it does not tell anything about his alignment.
table for two on a tv tray
OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
November 01 2013 07:56 GMT
#2762
pandain is being so wrong that im tempted to move him down to possible scum
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 01 2013 08:30 GMT
#2763
Im still about 30 pages back but Im getting there....
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OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
November 01 2013 09:05 GMT
#2764
who are your scumreads so far onegu?
OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
November 01 2013 09:13 GMT
#2765
Promethelax
]Pandain
[UoN]Sentinel
Oatsmaster
Koshi
strongandbig
OOHCHILD
marvellosity
Seuss Onegu
HotCottonCandy
raynpelikoneet


if you're a townread tell me how to power you and i will.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 01 2013 09:16 GMT
#2766
On November 01 2013 18:05 OOHCHILD wrote:
who are your scumreads so far onegu?



Koshi, Pandain, and I also dont like marv much. Not sure how everyone was saying he is the most townie person in thread, also he reacted the same way in desert mafia to a midday replacement, he was scum that game.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 01 2013 09:18 GMT
#2767
Koshi has been sheeping alot and just asking for powerups day one. Really dont like that from him. Also I am more than 30 pages back I cannot add : / Im in the middle of night 1 with nukes flying everywhere.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 01 2013 09:20 GMT
#2768
I am mostly skim reading now as reading closely is takeing to long...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
November 01 2013 09:31 GMT
#2769
Pandain i really want to know how you go from this:
On October 31 2013 10:12 Pandain wrote:
I can never read kush.

Also why do my nukes disappear but not yours?

...inbetween
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 01 2013 08:36 Pandain wrote:
You should probably nuke Kush, he's playing way too certain and shit. It's just really throwing me off.

On November 01 2013 10:29 Pandain wrote:
Rayn is being too much of a dick to be scum imo, along with other reasons.

I could lynch Seuss, think Oohchild is the best lynch even though he's being nuked, and could lynch Vayne. Where he at?

On November 01 2013 14:40 Pandain wrote:
I'm probably totally wrong but that's okay, if I'm wrong I'll just improve as a person and player after the game.

Promethelax
WaveofShadow
Pandain
[UoN]Sentinel
Oatsmaster

Koshi
strongandbig
OOHCHILD

marvellosity
Seuss Onegu
Clarity_nl
HotCottonCandy
raynpelikoneet



So ideally, there you have it. Assuming 3 scum and an SK, that's it.


...to this:
On November 01 2013 15:10 Pandain wrote:
Even though I'm not sold on it, I think the reasons for voting you are better then the reasons for voting strongandbig.

##Unvote strongandbig
##Vote OOHCHILD


You have a big fucking case on SnB. You say you can't read kush. In the spoilers are all posts where you even talk about kush in a read-manner. There you say kush's response to your case on snb is okay, and nothing else in there supports the idea of kush going from "can't read" -> "scum".

The only thing i see there is kush's role and that's a really weak reason to think someone is scum. Or if you do think so, tell how kush's claim, his timing of the claim, and his role makes him scum. He has already told why he did claim when he did. How does that make him scum, you have commented nothing on that.

On top of that there are some serious issues in your reads. They change for no apparent reason, mainly your reads on Vayne and Koshi. Vayne suddenly gets upgraded to green from "i could lynch him" for this reasoning:
I really feel like Vayne is just playing me, even superior, but I'm going to give a town read to him

That's weak, really weak Pandain. And Koshi for no apparent reason goes from "i don't mention him up for lynching" to top 4. For what?

Overall Pandain, i find your scumreads to be based on really weak reasons, or no reasons at all. Besides SnB, which i am going to look next into (your case).

Explain your scumread on Koshi and kush. Explain why you suddenly gave a town read on Vayne.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 09:31 GMT
#2770
On November 01 2013 18:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Pandain i really want to know how you go from this:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 10:12 Pandain wrote:
I can never read kush.

Also why do my nukes disappear but not yours?

...inbetween
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 01 2013 08:36 Pandain wrote:
You should probably nuke Kush, he's playing way too certain and shit. It's just really throwing me off.

On November 01 2013 10:29 Pandain wrote:
Rayn is being too much of a dick to be scum imo, along with other reasons.

I could lynch Seuss, think Oohchild is the best lynch even though he's being nuked, and could lynch Vayne. Where he at?

On November 01 2013 14:40 Pandain wrote:
I'm probably totally wrong but that's okay, if I'm wrong I'll just improve as a person and player after the game.

Promethelax
WaveofShadow
Pandain
[UoN]Sentinel
Oatsmaster

Koshi
strongandbig
OOHCHILD

marvellosity
Seuss Onegu
Clarity_nl
HotCottonCandy
raynpelikoneet



So ideally, there you have it. Assuming 3 scum and an SK, that's it.


...to this:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 15:10 Pandain wrote:
Even though I'm not sold on it, I think the reasons for voting you are better then the reasons for voting strongandbig.

##Unvote strongandbig
##Vote OOHCHILD


You have a big fucking case on SnB. You say you can't read kush. In the spoilers are all posts where you even talk about kush in a read-manner. There you say kush's response to your case on snb is okay, and nothing else in there supports the idea of kush going from "can't read" -> "scum".

The only thing i see there is kush's role and that's a really weak reason to think someone is scum. Or if you do think so, tell how kush's claim, his timing of the claim, and his role makes him scum. He has already told why he did claim when he did. How does that make him scum, you have commented nothing on that.

On top of that there are some serious issues in your reads. They change for no apparent reason, mainly your reads on Vayne and Koshi. Vayne suddenly gets upgraded to green from "i could lynch him" for this reasoning:
Show nested quote +
I really feel like Vayne is just playing me, even superior, but I'm going to give a town read to him

That's weak, really weak Pandain. And Koshi for no apparent reason goes from "i don't mention him up for lynching" to top 4. For what?

Overall Pandain, i find your scumreads to be based on really weak reasons, or no reasons at all. Besides SnB, which i am going to look next into (your case).

Explain your scumread on Koshi and kush. Explain why you suddenly gave a town read on Vayne.

...filter...
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 01 2013 09:35 GMT
#2771
On November 01 2013 11:04 Pandain wrote:
I'm going to address Seuss later, as I'll analyze him more and get a thorough opinion. I guess I'll also analyze Vayne while I'm at it.

As for Rayne, the thing is that that post showed clear interest in figuring out what's happening. Him even using a power on Marv takes huge balls and would be scary for scum to do. Him very poorly tunneling you is something a town Rayn would do, and he even nuked you to backed it up so it's not really fake.


All your defences of rayn are actually really really awful, Pandain. Like Grade A level terrible.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 01 2013 09:35 GMT
#2772
Whether rayn is town or not, "poor tunnelling" is not a towntell. Ridiculous.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 01 2013 09:44 GMT
#2773
On November 01 2013 15:10 OOHCHILD wrote:
WAIT HE SAID HE HAS THE LONGEST FILTER EVER. BUT A LARGE PART OF IT IS PREGAME>

marv scum

If this is how you play mafia, please stop playing mafia.

Many thanks.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 09:44 GMT
#2774
Every read of Pandain's is really weak..
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 01 2013 09:46 GMT
#2775
On November 01 2013 15:14 OOHCHILD wrote:
PANDAIN that is what marv DOES as scum. Hapa was telling me about a game he played with scum marv, and his filter in that game was over 20 pages. Hapa couldn't believe it. Marv is the one person who plays on this site who is quite capable of a 20+ page scum filter.

My filter was 20 pages over 5 lynches

My filter here was 23 pages at the start of Day 2.

Again, if this is how you play mafia, please stop playing mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
November 01 2013 09:47 GMT
#2776
Marv, are you incapable of this LENGTH of filter as scum?
OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
November 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#2777
i think you are not. escpecially in a gmae where everyone is looking to you and expecting you to be the leader
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 01 2013 09:53 GMT
#2778
On November 01 2013 18:47 OOHCHILD wrote:
Marv, are you incapable of this LENGTH of filter as scum?

Perfectly incapable. See the numbers above. Use your brain.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 01 2013 09:54 GMT
#2779
Promethelax and Onegu both didn't use their nukes.

That's awful.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
November 01 2013 09:57 GMT
#2780
once you have a 20 length filter its not that much of a stretch to 30 or 40.
That is because what the 20 filter shows us is that you are comfortable posting a LOT as scum. So this game is just doing what you have already been proven to do.
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