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On November 01 2013 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv i am still nuking Oats.
Someone else can do Seuss. There are other nukes right, Prome?
Stop. What?
On November 01 2013 07:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 07:47 OOHCHILD wrote:
its not hard to read but can you do a tldr? post by post analysis are so bad and don't serve the purpose..
I didn't do every post, I did posts which I felt could show he's scum. You can decide whether or not all of them are valid. If you don't have time to read it, then don't play this game because this is analysis at its core and a thorough analysis, not just an analysis.
On November 01 2013 07:52 OOHCHILD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 07:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 01 2013 07:47 OOHCHILD wrote:
its not hard to read but can you do a tldr? post by post analysis are so bad and don't serve the purpose.. Not true? but pandain i actually read your entire case for real and it didn't convince me.
Okay, that's fine for me honestly.
On November 01 2013 07:56 OOHCHILD wrote:
@pandain i just read some of his filter from thug life and I think his analysis this game is much deeper. Basically the only smart stuff he said in thug life was picking apart other people's cases on town.
I find no strong points he has made.
On November 01 2013 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 07:52 OOHCHILD wrote:On November 01 2013 07:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 01 2013 07:47 OOHCHILD wrote:
its not hard to read but can you do a tldr? post by post analysis are so bad and don't serve the purpose.. Not true? but pandain i actually read your entire case for real and it didn't convince me. yes true. Even the worst mafia players do not slip in every post of theirs. I can tell from Pandain's case, even when i havn't read it, and even if SnB is scum, that at least 50% of his points are invalid. If you do a case like that the main point gets buried somewhere between there and it's alot easier for scum to defend as if they defend 90% of the case it looks good even if it's the 10% that actually makes them scum, just because they defended pretty much everything -> case is bad.
This is probably why you never find scum.
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Pandain why did you start making bad posts again..?
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Also give me good reasons why Oats is town.
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y do u think oats is scum
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Didn't you say you didn't read my case?
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Hahahahaha pandain
If you're gonna do a meta analysis you should try reading a town game where I was trying
Instead of one where I basically didnt play
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I am going to read your case later.
I think Oats is scum because his nuke on Koshi who is obviously town and was then, the reasoning makes zero sense.
Also he has no reads at all, which mirrors his play from Ego. I have never seen town!Oats have no scum reads on D2, however dumb his reasons might be.
Now why is he town?
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On November 01 2013 08:14 strongandbig wrote:
Hahahahaha pandain
If you're gonna do a meta analysis you should try reading a town game where I was trying
Instead of one where I basically didnt play
Which game should I look at?
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I explained earlier why I thought Oats was town, so if you're not going to give me the respect of reading my case I'm not going to give you the respect of answering you now.
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On November 01 2013 08:18 Pandain wrote:
I explained earlier why I thought Oats was town, so if you're not going to give me the respect of reading my case I'm not going to give you the respect of answering you now.
You havn't talked a single bit about Oats before N1 start besides calling him town and asking "doesn't Oats bus as scum" when marv asked you about it. So no, i thought Oats was town too on D1, not any more.
The difference is i have whole tomorrow to look at your case and to decide a lynch. I only have 9.5 (or smth) hours to decide my nuke target. It's 1:30 MA and i need to sleep in that time frame so i am pretty sure you can see my problem.
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rayen all the nukes have been flukes...why should anyone including yourself give a fuck about your nuke target? why do you not stfu about it
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On November 01 2013 08:15 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 08:14 strongandbig wrote:
Hahahahaha pandain
If you're gonna do a meta analysis you should try reading a town game where I was trying
Instead of one where I basically didnt play Which game should I look at?
Idk. On my phone. Basically any other town game. But srsly if you got the impression that I "care" less in this game than in noir that's silly, noir I was replaced in after I'd started another game and just didnt have enough time to give any shits.
Also if you think losing is motivating I think you have a poor grasp of sports psychology.
The rest of your case is pretty meh.. I'm not "posting like scum", I'm giving town my honest thoughts and opinions, you get what you get.
A few specifics:
- I felt confident in promethelax because I really liked his early attempts to engineer what I saw as a good thread atmosphere, I felt myself nodding to a lot of his points early. I tweaked later when I got more confident in Marv.
- I didn't want to lynch clarity yet on day 1 because he hadnt said whether he was just never going to play or whether he was just out for a cycle or two.
- sorry you don't like my reasoning on wos or vayne. Turns out I was wrong about wos, well have to see about vayne. But I also don't see how this kind of "weak" post makes me scum or fits your interpretation of my scum game being "more confident" or whatevs.
- I nuked cause I wanted to use my nuke on the scummiest non already nuked person around. I said that I would do this, then there were several hours to discuss, then I did it. Like I asked wave, what possible scum motivation is there for me to nuke vayne there?
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Aperture was a pretty good town game I think. Got shot by scum so that's good
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You should probably nuke Kush, he's playing way too certain and shit. It's just really throwing me off.
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I don't doubt that you had reasons to do what you did, I would hope you did scum or town. I just think your reasons don't justify your actions.
Also were you waiting for Clarity to just respond "Yes I don't plan to play" to your question?
On October 30 2013 00:56 strongandbig wrote:
also something I didn't see from clarity - is he going to start playing more later in the game or is this all we're getting out of him? cause if he's not going to commit to ever playing differently then he really needs to replace out or get lynched tomorrow, we just can't allow someone who's playing like that to live to LYLO. but i'm okay with not lynching him today.
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Your nuke for Vayne came out of nowhere. It's so disconcerting. I see that it could be town because your drawing suspicion to yourself, but by that point you could've gotten away with it. That's why right now I'm focusing on how anti-town and sudden it was. Probably the most suspicious nuke in my eyes.
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On November 01 2013 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am going to read your case later.
I think Oats is scum because his nuke on Koshi who is obviously town and was then, the reasoning makes zero sense.
Also he has no reads at all, which mirrors his play from Ego. I have never seen town!Oats have no scum reads on D2, however dumb his reasons might be.
Now why is he town?
Im sorry, where do I not have scumreads? You must be deluded to think I play the same as I did a scum game a LONG TIME AGO. Nope.
Also nuke on Koshi was awesomesauce. Why do you only target me for a bad nuke? Im sure other people also nuked dudes who you thought were town. And basically no one gave reasoning for their nuke. So why are you only focusing on me Rayn?
Also nuke was fake so that point is basically moot.
And there you have it, no points for calling me scum.
I really cannot follow Pandain's case on SnB which weirds me out because I dont remember him being this obtuse in the last mini I played with him, Golden Sun I think.
Marv, how have I opted out of the discourse with Seuss? I said I agreed with all the shit that you guys said but then he replaced and Onegu barely posted anything. So its not like there has been a lot of controversy surrounding Seuss/Onegu anyway.
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