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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 31 2013 16:36 GMT
#2501
Sure thanks for all these wonderful cases about me being scum. Such good play. Such townie play. Oohooh
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:37 GMT
#2502
Well, people seemed to think I was overstating my points on rayn. Koshi doesn't seem *that* interested, I'd expect him to be more interested if I were on to something. He might still be mafia, but I'm not sure enough on him to push anything like that at the moment, I'd rather give him time to display his true colours.

Sentinel does fit the 3p bill, also I think we'll have a lot more information on his alignment when the nukes get used today, if any of them land, so it doesn't seem to be wise to lynch him right now. strongandbig was bang on with his meta analysis of Sentinel as well, he was much more serious in Noir than he has been in this game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:37 GMT
#2503
On November 01 2013 01:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Sure thanks for all these wonderful cases about me being scum. Such good play. Such townie play. Oohooh

Just like your rockin' case on s&b you mean? Give me a break Oats.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 31 2013 16:39 GMT
#2504
Lol I just got a PM I have a nuke, I will most likely not use it and let it expire. Still reading I put my son to sleep and showered and now power reading.
Try TL Mafia!!!
HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 31 2013 16:40 GMT
#2505
On November 01 2013 01:37 marvellosity wrote:
Well, people seemed to think I was overstating my points on rayn. Koshi doesn't seem *that* interested, I'd expect him to be more interested if I were on to something. He might still be mafia, but I'm not sure enough on him to push anything like that at the moment, I'd rather give him time to display his true colours.

Sentinel does fit the 3p bill, also I think we'll have a lot more information on his alignment when the nukes get used today, if any of them land, so it doesn't seem to be wise to lynch him right now. strongandbig was bang on with his meta analysis of Sentinel as well, he was much more serious in Noir than he has been in this game.


Have you ever thought that rayn and koshi might be scum together? Certainly possible. and yes I'm also interested in who rayn nukes or if he even uses it all. If he doesn't nuke anybody I would lynch him on the spot.

I was in Noire but died early so I'll have to go look at that
taste me
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 31 2013 16:40 GMT
#2506
On October 31 2013 23:33 strongandbig wrote:
##Twerk
Let me know if I got that wrong

Anyway I looked at sent again. I read his filter this game and his filter from noir where he was scum. No quotes cause on phone.

Filter this game feels very different from noir filter. Noir he was way more "srsbsns I'm makin reads guise". However, I can't decide whether that indicates an alignment difference or if it's just cause this game is a crazy themed game where he got a troll role from the hosts.

I'm still a little stuck on the stuff at the start of the game about not retweeting koshi, then doing Marv, then doing koshi anyway. It just all feels pretty over-done/under-explained, if that makes sense.

Also I kind of have a problem with him not really talking about anyone but kush and himself (and wos I guess). Like, the stuff in his case is mostly true - kush's actions were pretty much objectively scummy and terrible. But it's pretty convenient if sent's scum. But on the other hand, I know that can also happen to a townie under pressure, and judging by his noir filter it's not like tunneling is a scum tell for him.

In conclusion: Sentinel could very well be scum, and I would say he's higher on my scummy list than many others in this game, but I'm far from convinced.


So what conclusion do you agree with here marv?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 31 2013 16:41 GMT
#2507
On November 01 2013 01:39 Onegu wrote:
Lol I just got a PM I have a nuke, I will most likely not use it and let it expire. Still reading I put my son to sleep and showered and now power reading.


I mean look at this, the guy ninja'd the shit out of me. He seriously isn't gonna use his nuke and let us get any kind of read on him?

and you guys wonder why im fine with this smh
taste me
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:47 GMT
#2508
I literally said Prome
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:48 GMT
#2509
yeah Onegu should at least try to use his nuke.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 31 2013 16:55 GMT
#2510
No you said the meta was right. Sent is playing dis-similarly to how he played previously as scum. He is also playing dis-similarly to how he has played as town. So is the meta conclusion 3P? Like I get that you agree that SnB is right about the meta change in Sent's play; I just don't get what you believe about Sent because of that.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 16:59 GMT
#2511
On November 01 2013 01:55 Promethelax wrote:
No you said the meta was right. Sent is playing dis-similarly to how he played previously as scum. He is also playing dis-similarly to how he has played as town. So is the meta conclusion 3P? Like I get that you agree that SnB is right about the meta change in Sent's play; I just don't get what you believe about Sent because of that.

Fits 3p because of his role, meta is dissimilar to last mafia game
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2013 17:01 GMT
#2512
On October 31 2013 09:59 HotCottonCandy wrote:
I honestly don't see anything egregious about Seuss' posting that makes me want to lynch him before a lot of other people. He just seems unsure of himself, I don't think that is scummy. Would scum purposely be that wishy-washy and avoid "important" discussion as you put it? I think that is more person indicative and not alignment.

You still stand by this HCC? Because if Seuss is town, he must have been extremely clueless this game. There was nothing in his filter about that, it was all "I am a mathematician and an analyst, I know precisely what I am doing".

You think I am over thinking his actions in my cases on him?
Like his behavior around Oats/Me, Sentinel/WoS?



@Oats
You didn't say anything about my cases on Seuss. At least Kush was honest. You don't have to spare my feelings.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 17:02 GMT
#2513
Yeah, I don't know why Oats has opted out of discussing anything apart from his not-very-impressive push on s&b
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
HotCottonCandy
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada188 Posts
October 31 2013 17:09 GMT
#2514
On November 01 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 09:59 HotCottonCandy wrote:
I honestly don't see anything egregious about Seuss' posting that makes me want to lynch him before a lot of other people. He just seems unsure of himself, I don't think that is scummy. Would scum purposely be that wishy-washy and avoid "important" discussion as you put it? I think that is more person indicative and not alignment.

You still stand by this HCC? Because if Seuss is town, he must have been extremely clueless this game. There was nothing in his filter about that, it was all "I am a mathematician and an analyst, I know precisely what I am doing".

You think I am over thinking his actions in my cases on him?
Like his behavior around Oats/Me, Sentinel/WoS?



@Oats
You didn't say anything about my cases on Seuss. At least Kush was honest. You don't have to spare my feelings.


Yea I still think it's true but getting rid of null people isn't a worst case scenario, especially a replacement. If you guys want to change your mind and lynch anyone of sent/rayn/pandain/oats I would gladly do it tho.
taste me
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2013 17:15 GMT
#2515
On November 01 2013 02:09 HotCottonCandy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 09:59 HotCottonCandy wrote:
I honestly don't see anything egregious about Seuss' posting that makes me want to lynch him before a lot of other people. He just seems unsure of himself, I don't think that is scummy. Would scum purposely be that wishy-washy and avoid "important" discussion as you put it? I think that is more person indicative and not alignment.

You still stand by this HCC? Because if Seuss is town, he must have been extremely clueless this game. There was nothing in his filter about that, it was all "I am a mathematician and an analyst, I know precisely what I am doing".

You think I am over thinking his actions in my cases on him?
Like his behavior around Oats/Me, Sentinel/WoS?



@Oats
You didn't say anything about my cases on Seuss. At least Kush was honest. You don't have to spare my feelings.


Yea I still think it's true but getting rid of null people isn't a worst case scenario, especially a replacement. If you guys want to change your mind and lynch anyone of sent/rayn/pandain/oats I would gladly do it tho.

I have troubles believing rayn is scum. There are sentences I think he wouldn't use as scum.

Oats I can totally lynch. I believe he is scum with Seuss. There are connections I simply can't ignore, and in the case Seuss is town he has a scumread on Oats so lynching Oats is fine. Also Clarity must really have believed in that Oats case so...

Sentinel I don't know. I don't understand why 3p will use it's power so fast and what his wincon is.

Pandain... You think he is scum now? Same level of confidence as your scumread on him in Thug life? Because rayn thinks he is town strangely enough.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2013 17:16 GMT
#2516
I don't believe Pandain and Seuss are scum together btw. That makes 0 sense.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 31 2013 17:21 GMT
#2517
On November 01 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 02:09 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 09:59 HotCottonCandy wrote:
I honestly don't see anything egregious about Seuss' posting that makes me want to lynch him before a lot of other people. He just seems unsure of himself, I don't think that is scummy. Would scum purposely be that wishy-washy and avoid "important" discussion as you put it? I think that is more person indicative and not alignment.

You still stand by this HCC? Because if Seuss is town, he must have been extremely clueless this game. There was nothing in his filter about that, it was all "I am a mathematician and an analyst, I know precisely what I am doing".

You think I am over thinking his actions in my cases on him?
Like his behavior around Oats/Me, Sentinel/WoS?



@Oats
You didn't say anything about my cases on Seuss. At least Kush was honest. You don't have to spare my feelings.


Yea I still think it's true but getting rid of null people isn't a worst case scenario, especially a replacement. If you guys want to change your mind and lynch anyone of sent/rayn/pandain/oats I would gladly do it tho.

I have troubles believing rayn is scum. There are sentences I think he wouldn't use as scum.

Oats I can totally lynch. I believe he is scum with Seuss. There are connections I simply can't ignore, and in the case Seuss is town he has a scumread on Oats so lynching Oats is fine. Also Clarity must really have believed in that Oats case so...

Sentinel I don't know. I don't understand why 3p will use it's power so fast and what his wincon is.

Pandain... You think he is scum now? Same level of confidence as your scumread on him in Thug life? Because rayn thinks he is town strangely enough.

Could you give some examples and also explain why you think he wouldn't say them as mafia?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2013 17:21 GMT
#2518
Also it was WoS who said that Oats was too blendy this game?
I had a good night of sleep.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
October 31 2013 17:28 GMT
#2519
On November 01 2013 01:31 Promethelax wrote:
So, Vayne's been tunneling Sent all game but hasn't actually pushed a lynch on him, this time is no different than earlier. He has been making cases and calling Sent scum but not pushing this lynch. Would be very happy with a lynch on Vayne.


I agree with this although I'll have to postpone any further investigation of what exactly Vayne has been up to until I get home.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 31 2013 17:41 GMT
#2520
On November 01 2013 02:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:09 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 09:59 HotCottonCandy wrote:
I honestly don't see anything egregious about Seuss' posting that makes me want to lynch him before a lot of other people. He just seems unsure of himself, I don't think that is scummy. Would scum purposely be that wishy-washy and avoid "important" discussion as you put it? I think that is more person indicative and not alignment.

You still stand by this HCC? Because if Seuss is town, he must have been extremely clueless this game. There was nothing in his filter about that, it was all "I am a mathematician and an analyst, I know precisely what I am doing".

You think I am over thinking his actions in my cases on him?
Like his behavior around Oats/Me, Sentinel/WoS?



@Oats
You didn't say anything about my cases on Seuss. At least Kush was honest. You don't have to spare my feelings.


Yea I still think it's true but getting rid of null people isn't a worst case scenario, especially a replacement. If you guys want to change your mind and lynch anyone of sent/rayn/pandain/oats I would gladly do it tho.

I have troubles believing rayn is scum. There are sentences I think he wouldn't use as scum.

Oats I can totally lynch. I believe he is scum with Seuss. There are connections I simply can't ignore, and in the case Seuss is town he has a scumread on Oats so lynching Oats is fine. Also Clarity must really have believed in that Oats case so...

Sentinel I don't know. I don't understand why 3p will use it's power so fast and what his wincon is.

Pandain... You think he is scum now? Same level of confidence as your scumread on him in Thug life? Because rayn thinks he is town strangely enough.

Could you give some examples and also explain why you think he wouldn't say them as mafia?

Yeah... Hard to find them. I can't really quote them now and explain it.
But I think rayn will prove himself.

And the reasons why you people say rayn is scum are pure meta. Give me examples where he is hardpushing bad lynches? His case on WoS was honest and not bad. You said so yourself instantly after he made it marv, you sheeped him.

Sure, I though he would be mad after he came back and Clarity flipped town, (and I think he would flip town because I believe in Clarity his sincerity and honesty about not being scum, but WoS was also not looking scummy anymore and I wanted a switch), and then his lynch WoS wasn't going through. Just like in previous games in which he was mad then. But he came back before lynch and felt THE EXACT SAME THING WE ALL FELT, which was don't lynch WoS. So that isn't scummy at all and I don't understand why you want rayn to be a pushy fucker that only wants his lynch to go through or you give him a scumread...
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