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On October 14 2013 05:48 Grackaroni wrote: EchelonTee has the highest scum win rate on TL! Just sayin  only if you don't count space station. that was painful @.@ was a non TL banlist game | ||
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On October 17 2013 17:56 Onegu wrote: Sorry really busy yesterday I am catching up now. ... | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:10 I-be-Pro wrote: I'm going to keep spamming in my QT. I treat my house QT as a nice chat with people to get a better read on them in person through casual chit chat. I can't just spam that much in here... I'm keeping it that way and I don't think you need to know when we're joking about the host being a german female and all that. Rather be happy that some people have additional info they'd otherwise not have if they're willing to put in some time that way. I really, really dislike this. The QT's are basically imperfect mason circles; while a mason circle with confirmed townies is extremely powerful to bounce reads off one another, one that almost definitely has scum in it is very open to manipulation. Any interesting information (people's town lists anyone?) that is listed in a QT, but not in the thread will still make it to the scum, giving them an edge. The QTs are also inferior compared to PM circles, as you can pick and choose who you PM and try to get share information only with people you believe to be town. The majority of the activity should be in thread. I don't doubt that Toad will be active in the thread, but hidden information in QTs is decisively negative. I'm also still considering if the town as a whole should decide on how to use the prizes from challenges or not; putting it up to a town vote would 1.) generate healthy discussion, 2.)allow the town to have more control how these power items will be used. | ||
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ah crap. I don't really remember syllo then | ||
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No idea why it wasn't posted yet. green color is for flavor inb4 tunneling | ||
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On October 17 2013 07:48 Holyflare wrote: Also on the point of the QT's. I implore you to post as much as you can in there. QT - to me anyway, seems a lot more casual than posting in the main thread. It is another angle where you can garner information about people. As long as it doesn't detract from people forumlating opinions and whatnot then there is nothing but beneficial information you can gain. To reiterate on my point; the problem with spending activity in the QT is that that is activity that you are not spending in thread. Even if you bring your information/analysis to the thread, the exact wording of people cannot be copied from QTs, taking away the ability for the rest of the town to be able to directly analyze what people are saying. The exact wording and tone is very important in scumhunting and is lost in translation if too much activity is in the QT. | ||
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On October 17 2013 18:51 Mocsta wrote: Funny in hindsight So... with the toad dislike stuff. Are you writing that there to: - Clear ya chest? - Receive thread feedback? - Receive a response from Toad? - Insert other? Out of curiosity; assuming you wanted a response from Toad, why not ask in the QT? Or did you want this to be a highlight in the thread? What kind of question is this? I wrote that to 1.) clear my chest, aka state what I'm thinking 2.) recieve thread feedback. That's why I posted in thread. 3.) receive a response from toad. That's why I quoted him instead of generally talking about QTs. I wanted a response from Toad in thread for reasons I've already mentioned. | ||
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On October 17 2013 19:10 Mocsta wrote: I implied nothing of the sort. You stated: On October 17 2013 18:51 Mocsta wrote: In exclusion, this statement directly implies that I dislike toad. When I first read this part I thought you were claiming I called toad scummy. Not a big deal I just didn't like the lack of clarity.So... with the toad dislike stuff. On October 17 2013 19:10 Mocsta wrote:Other than Toad not wanting you to dislike his play; there is nothing written here that Toad has to address. Are you kidding me? I directly replied to one of Toad's post saying that I disagree with he said. Did I have to put "Toad, what do you think about what I've said?" to satisfy you? Also, my first posts will be about setup. That's how mafia works. Downplaying my analysis of the setup as a "generic observation", instead of responding to my actual content, is just strange.In essence, your contribution was written as a generic observation or musing; henceforth my query. Perhaps i should have added that there is a Slytherin QT post from ET that suggests he finds Toad difficult to read/play with; but I don't see how that would have significant bearing. Toad is difficult to read. This is not news unless he has significantly changed his play. For those wondering, I basically stated "why do you claim town toad, it sux".Lastly, You cut off the part where I directly quote him, just turn back a page and you'll see. If I directly reply to someone's post saying I really, really dislike what they said, then yes they are expected to respond.Your post is quoted above. I did not see any Toad quotes? Again, I find it comprehend how this post in question invites any meaningful dialogue from the target (Toad). I feel like you're just wasting my time. You're trying to imply that I'm posting fluff and beating around the bush when I'm talking about something that is incredibly pertinent, the amount of activity in QT vs the amount of activity in thread. Stop it. | ||
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People I have issues with: Onegu On October 17 2013 17:56 Onegu wrote: Sorry really busy yesterday I am catching up now. This first post is quite small and easy to skip over, but it reeks of an apologetic nature. Compare it with the first few posts in this thread; random roleplaying, questioning, and sturdy statements. I'm not sure if Onegu is new or vet but this post is a classic "I'm scum, don't really know what to say hope the thread doesn't notice me" post. On October 17 2013 18:20 Onegu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Sorry I am still catching up and when I see something to point out I will do so. I agree with the first part, since it is impossible to know the scum distribution then it is alao possible that scum do not know the members of each house. For this reason I think it is a bad idea to post house lists, moreso in this game than in GoT since it is a qt and not just pms. I am not caught up and the house lists might already be out, and if they are look at the people who gave out house lists first, in GoT the first person who just gave out house lists while argueing for doing so was scum. The second part being lazy isnt much of a scum tell imo. Again with the sorry. Implies that list poster = scum; this looks like a weak push attempt. On October 17 2013 19:17 Onegu wrote:+ Show Spoiler + The hydra really needs to say who is actually writeing, I am very confident in my ability to read koshi as I have pegged him in every game we have played, but I dont read rayne well. I also dont have a problem with people not wanting to win the contest. I dont think it is scummy just anti town. I am going to reread some people after dinner. This post is parroting ideas already stated; that the hydra needs to state who is posting. parroting = bad raynpelikonoshi On October 17 2013 07:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Skanjab1s "guis I am town because I don't know yet the compositions of each House' "guis I am town because I have no clue how many scums there are" His first accusation has very weak basis. skanjab was clearly roleplaying and rayne+kosh use that as a reason for scum? And next he uses skanjab's inability to read the OP as a reason for scumminess. In fact, I would argue scum is much more likely to closely read the OP to not make mistakes like that, as they have a more involved role within the game. I find people make arguements of "oh, this person is trying to fake noob towniesness!" when in fact there are just a lot of noob townies around. He doesn't develop the argumenet further from this, just lets the vote lie. I'm tired as hell and have to sleep will try and post more tomorrow. | ||
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On October 17 2013 20:04 LastArgument wrote: What is his scum meta? This statement is useless without qualification. This clearly articulates why I dislike the QT activity that does not get fully transferred over to thread | ||
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@pandain I stated that people should spend more time in thread than in QT and articulated my reasoning behind this with examples and logic; and your response is that this is "bad". Really. If you have more reasoning behind your view then by all means argue with me, but calling me red for this is just laughable. You making me out to be afraid to talk to a small enclosed group is absolutely hilarious btw; if I was scum I would love to mess with the minds of a small group. Just ask Mattchew about when I got him to completely out his role, Palmar's role, and what their actions were going to be. Or when I convinced Meapak_Ziphh I was town and got him to share with me all of town's votes. Whether I'm town or scum I argue with people who come at me with terrible logic; read my past games and you'll see. Besides, your logic here is absolutely terrible. There is no "confirming" a QT; even with detective type classes there are always framers and the like. Even with deaths in a house, you can't confirm if the rest are town or not. Your continued comments on me as a suspect with this weak-as-hell basis is disturbing, to say the least. On October 18 2013 01:38 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Oh i forgot something. EchelonTree - Why makes you say this game is heavily roled? Much scum roles you guys got? -rayn This is a fucking Harry Potter themed game. If we're all squibs then I should've just signed up for competitive tic-tac-toe. Why has no one commented on my Onegu case? He's gone completely black since posting 3 weakass posts and hasn't even responded to me. Screams scum much more than anyone else at this point; putting my vote on him. Will make deeper analysis when I'm back. ##Vote: Onegu | ||
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On October 18 2013 11:03 EchelonTee wrote: Why has no one commented on my Onegu case? ##Vote: Onegu Specifically, I'd like to hear Palmar and Toad's thoughts. | ||
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On October 18 2013 11:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Why would a competitive player like you claim blue half past D1 ET? -rayn I'm utilizing my self control so I don't just flame you endlessly, but it's difficult. My statement that it is likely this game has lots of roles because it is a theme game, a Harry Potter one no less, does not indicate nor deny my status as a blue. Stop the WIFOM. | ||
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On October 18 2013 11:29 raynpelikonoshi wrote: ET one question; You seem to be angry? Why? -rayn I'll admit I'm putting it on too hard which is likely because this is my first game in a while. I'll cool it. so yes, I mad | ||
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On October 18 2013 22:03 syllogism wrote: Lynching justanothertownie is a decent alternative. Zero useful content and him complaining about Palmar after he had finished catching up is quite suspicious. He didn't even suggest that Palmar is mafia for his focus on Mocsta. In Noir he was, as town, chatty and active. He promised for more content before the deadline so lets see how that works out. ...I don't even remember justanothertownie. It's really annoying me that the majority of Cephiro's posts are in QT. It'd be nice of 1 of Pandain VayneAuthority raynpelikonoshi Stutters695 justanothertownie could do an analysis of Cephiro's in QT posts. | ||
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##unvote On October 18 2013 00:02 Mattchew wrote: can i just say Koshi and have that be my answer? I don't know who koshi is so no that's not a really good answer for me. I also don't know rayn at all either yet people are saying things along the lines of "oh it was actually that guy who is talking? yeah I know he's town then". Honestly this situation is souring my opinion towards hydras: twice the amount of posts to decipher with half the amount of cohesiveness between them. On October 18 2013 12:48 Mattchew wrote: lulET scares me but for no reason belonging to this game On cephiro; his only post reeks; I primarily agree with the logic laid out here. I also already noted how strange it is that Cephiro was casually active on QT yet not involved in thread nor in scumhunting. This indicates that he definitely had the time to be reading the thread, yet he has no time to follow through on his so called reads? I'm happy with a lynch on him. ##Vote: Cephiro Will not be back before deadline. Fingers crossed. | ||
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On October 19 2013 05:51 syllogism wrote: Does it look like Toad cares about the game at all on the QT? Because he certainly isn't in here. He is being the same distant Toad from Fruity. He's talking about the SAM claim and trying to get Blazinghand to claim. Not particularly involved. | ||
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On October 19 2013 05:21 Cephiro wrote: As for a non-roleplay note: It's unfortunate that the lynch ended up like this, but I will redeem my play and ensure this won't happen again. Don't forget this. | ||
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On October 19 2013 06:06 Sn0_Man wrote: Comments on the developments pre lynch and the actual lynch mr ET? I don't wish to talk about the prelynch developments yet. Obviously in hindsight the Palmar lynch looks bad, esp. giving the dayvig flip, but I can't particularly fault the arguments against Palmar, esp. considering syllo's confirmed nature now. | ||
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Syllo played fairly well, I don't know why people kept on flaming him. I couldn't sound as natural as I wanted to for some reason. I think I need to use new scum tactics cus my old "make fake arguments and get mad at people" thing felt off for me. | ||
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On November 03 2013 06:09 Grackaroni wrote: Lol Rayn we really sucked in like every way imaginable. U sounded really town, imo, which is a very underrated town strength. Looking town as town, groundbreaking new strategy | ||
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On November 03 2013 06:14 Grackaroni wrote: That doesn't really matter though if you can't get or push correct reads. Wasn't Onegu scum in another endgame like this where he just hid in the background and got no attention? Well, you said you sucked in every way imaginable, which I don't think is true because looking townie and talking a lot is better than not looking townie and lurking. | ||
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