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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 18 2013 20:11 GMT
#1354
On October 19 2013 05:10 Grackaroni wrote:
I blame BH. Who knows what kind of shenannies he was pulling behind the scenes.

I'm tired of the jokes.

That was great early day1... but we not there anymore.

pull the socks up.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 13:57 GMT
#1492
I'm of a fan of echelon escaping discussion by using the bandwagon argument that syllo is town, and +1.

he is a slippery one worthy of the serpent.

in Slytherin, he is the top scum potential.


hmmm, BH and zaragon scum for me still.

cephrio made a weird ass post about charms etc prior as well.

night

.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 22:19 GMT
#1660
On October 20 2013 06:20 LastArgument wrote:
glhf town, gg

Hi

Can I know who you are?

I thought you played a really strong town game.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 22:19 GMT
#1661
ermm whoops.. that was for PM land.. fail me.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 22:24 GMT
#1666
On October 20 2013 07:24 syllogism wrote:
If anything that looks bad since Mocsta for the most part ignored LastArgument and doesn't know alignments meaning he can't know if he played a "really strong town game". Oops?

LA flipped?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 22:27 GMT
#1670
On October 20 2013 06:32 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 17:45 Mocsta wrote:
On Syllo: I don't get the feeling from this game that he is interested in solving it/progressing it.
The pressure on pandain didn't feel natural; and was dropped too easily/conveniently for my liking.

Mocsta looks fairly suspicious for this

Syllo,

Read it for what it is.

I had a town read on Pandain, and frankly, am still surprised he flipped scum.
At that time, I had issues with you, and voiced that several times in the thread. We even had some go-between. Where things changed for me, is when you voted Cephiro. That post was decent and made me think you were town.

Obviously now you are confirmed.

Rayn/Koshi goods on me is dumb. He already admitted that he was looking purely at the votes, and not the reasoning. Its pretty clear why I went from Mattchew -> BH/Zaragon in the thread. I never felt confident about Palmar as a read, and this was clear in the thread too.

If you want to call me scum.. then why did I voice genuine issues with JustAnotherTownie?

Lastly, I semi-vigge'd EchelonTea.
Read my last post of note, very carefully.
On October 19 2013 22:57 Mocsta wrote:
I'm of a fan of echelon escaping discussion by using the bandwagon argument that syllo is town, and +1.

he is a slippery one worthy of the serpent.

in Slytherin, he is the top scum potential.


hmmm, BH and zaragon scum for me still.

cephrio made a weird ass post about charms etc prior as well.

night

.

Serpent spell is my 1-time counter-balance to being SAM.

Granted, it takes 2 night cycles to hit.. the point is, i still sent KP his way.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 22:29 GMT
#1674
On October 20 2013 05:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
indeed, pandain started with his town meta and then was unable to keep it up. echelontee was obvious scum so good shot there, surprised about lonemeow since its impossible to tell people like that alignment as far as im aware.

should be plenty obvious im town now with the harry potter red flip. I could only know that main characters could be scum if I was scum. I think the rest of our house is town FYI

I haven't had a dedicated read of Vayne.. but this post sticks out to me.

I can't put my finger on it, but, for a summary post, its got a scummy-vibe about it.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 22:31 GMT
#1676
On October 20 2013 07:01 syllogism wrote:
No, me being an innocent child is my license not to do anything. Even now I'm just pushing a policy lynch on a miller.

Thansk for admitting it.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 22:34 GMT
#1679
On October 20 2013 07:24 syllogism wrote:
If anything that looks bad since Mocsta for the most part ignored LastArgument and doesn't know alignments meaning he can't know if he played a "really strong town game". Oops?

Ignored him? ermmm.. If I wasn't talking about him, means I didnt have a scum read on him.

I liked a lot of stuff he said post early day1.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 22:35 GMT
#1680
On October 20 2013 07:26 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 07:24 Mocsta wrote:
On October 20 2013 07:24 syllogism wrote:
If anything that looks bad since Mocsta for the most part ignored LastArgument and doesn't know alignments meaning he can't know if he played a "really strong town game". Oops?

LA flipped?


you turd-hat you literally quote his goodbye post

Yeah, douche... cos i was meant to click PM

you're still scum because of zaragon as far as I am concerned. Nothing you have done has changed that.

Are you Sure that you will read the thread now that 50% of ya team flipped? Seems demotivating to me, at least.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 22:36 GMT
#1682
[QUOTE]On October 20 2013 07:27 Mocsta wrote:
If you want to call me scum.. then why did I voice genuine issues with JustAnotherTownie?
/QUOTE]
Syllo,
This is irrelevant. I got confused with LoneMeow flipping and JAT.

I still don't like JAT though.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 22:38 GMT
#1684
On October 20 2013 07:27 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 07:24 Mocsta wrote:
On October 20 2013 07:24 syllogism wrote:
If anything that looks bad since Mocsta for the most part ignored LastArgument and doesn't know alignments meaning he can't know if he played a "really strong town game". Oops?

LA flipped?

You weren't pushing the same reads as him and based on a quick skim of your filter this is the only time you mentioned him. A very strong town game implies he was pushing correct reads.

Show nested quote +
I am not pleased with how LastArgument has gone about his business; but that does not necessarily make him scummy. Guarantees he is a douche though.
Does it? For me, it meant he was my strongest town read in the game aside from the Innocent Child. & that I liked the way he played.
Each to their town.

Just remove it as any form of evidence towards a town or scum read. Fact is, it was meant to be in PM land and should have no bearing on the outcome of a read on me.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 22:44 GMT
#1694
On October 20 2013 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 07:35 Mocsta wrote:
On October 20 2013 07:26 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 20 2013 07:24 Mocsta wrote:
On October 20 2013 07:24 syllogism wrote:
If anything that looks bad since Mocsta for the most part ignored LastArgument and doesn't know alignments meaning he can't know if he played a "really strong town game". Oops?

LA flipped?


you turd-hat you literally quote his goodbye post

Yeah, douche... cos i was meant to click PM

you're still scum because of zaragon as far as I am concerned. Nothing you have done has changed that.

Are you Sure that you will read the thread now that 50% of ya team flipped? Seems demotivating to me, at least.


so you were planning to PM a live player asking for who he was a smurf of? yeah right

also if you think i get demotivated as scum you've literally read none of my scumgames

a live player? He flipped.. that was his goodbye post?

Wtf are you smoking

GTFO
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 23:10 GMT
#1707
Sigh.

LoneMeow filter is devoid of any information pertaining to scum. It does give Cephiro/Sn0_Man some extra town points.
Cephiro because he pulled out a "I sense genuine frustration" line to give a town read.
And Sn0_Man, because it feels like Sn0_Man is genuinely trying to convince LoneMeow to back off Palmar (For reasons that I agree with too). i.e. doesnt feel like scum talking to scum.

+ Show Spoiler [Sno&Lone] +

On October 19 2013 04:10 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:04 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 19 2013 04:01 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
On the other hand, meta may still be a reason and I'm not sure who else we lynch (not palmar people).


Why not Palmar?

Because I've played with lazy half-troll Palmar Day 1 before and he was town. He's the kind of player who dies N1 as town anyway so if he lives and doesn't shape up then its like a free red-check. Why lynch now when we are getting a virtual cop-check for tomorrow? Nothing tells me Palmar has to be scum. I can definitely see it but for now I don't see a reason to lynch D1.


Do you have a non-meta based reason, too?



EchelonTea

Essentially clears up Onegu. Not because of the case, but because he was campaigning for Onegu to be lynched further on.

Rayn is probably town.
On October 18 2013 11:17 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 11:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why would a competitive player like you claim blue half past D1 ET?

-rayn

I'm utilizing my self control so I don't just flame you endlessly, but it's difficult. My statement that it is likely this game has lots of roles because it is a theme game, a Harry Potter one no less, does not indicate nor deny my status as a blue. Stop the WIFOM.

ET already had a case out on Rayn/Koshi, and could have easily moved off Onegu to push the hydra.
I assume he did not because Onegu was a much easier target (less coherent, and less active)


I think Mattchew comes out looking pretty bad from this exchange.
On October 18 2013 23:16 EchelonTee wrote:
On my Onegu case; it is true that Onegu has examples of being apologetic as both town and scum. I'll consider that aspect to be a bit hazy, but if you take a quick gander at his filter, you'd see that since he's been back all he's giving is town reads; no scum reads in sight. To me this is a blatant showing of non-contribution to thread, activity for activity's sake. I am still confident in my read, but I am moving my vote to better guarantee a good lynch, as the difference in votes are a hair's difference and we have ~10 votes still not in.

##unvote



Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 00:02 Mattchew wrote:
On October 17 2013 18:22 EchelonTee wrote:
Thoughts on raynpelikonoshi, Mattchew?

can i just say Koshi and have that be my answer?

I don't know who koshi is so no that's not a really good answer for me. I also don't know rayn at all either yet people are saying things along the lines of "oh it was actually that guy who is talking? yeah I know he's town then". Honestly this situation is souring my opinion towards hydras: twice the amount of posts to decipher with half the amount of cohesiveness between them.
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 12:48 Mattchew wrote:
ET scares me but for no reason belonging to this game
lul



On cephiro; his only post reeks; I primarily agree with the logic laid out here. I also already noted how strange it is that Cephiro was casually active on QT yet not involved in thread nor in scumhunting. This indicates that he definitely had the time to be reading the thread, yet he has no time to follow through on his so called reads? I'm happy with a lynch on him.

##Vote: Cephiro

Will not be back before deadline. Fingers crossed.

There is no real purpose/outcome from the discussion with Mattchew here. It feels like filler and for someone that had a case on the hydra, I would expect ET to be more demanding. In a nutshell: ET is just commenting around what Mattchew said, but is not trying to elicit any meaningful information from this exchange.

Its the exact thing I called him out for prior with Toad. The difference being that he was saying he "disliked toad play" in the former, and with the latter (mattchew) hes actually asked him for information. Two different scenarios with a similar outcome. Why? I believe because this is a scum-to-scum interchange.

Yes, the tone of this passage is different to his interchange with Pandain. But the key difference was that Pandain was calling out ET as scummer. It makes sense for ET to dial up the emotion scale.


I suggest lynching Mattchew today
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 23:11 GMT
#1708
##Vote: Mattchew
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 23:44 GMT
#1718
On October 20 2013 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 08:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
I have no idea why anyone would want to sheep BH. Seriously...

Well we should ask Pandain why he always kill........WAIT A SECOND. PANDAIN WAS SCUM AND BH IS ALIVE.

BH is going to be scum ]:


This. Look at BH's filter, 3 pages and it's all useless spam shit. What is more curious is how mocsta could have an entire read on Zaragon/BH and he can see BH doing this trolly shit but he doesn't even mention that shit in his last case post on mattchew????

Why is it weird.

I can not articulate a case on zaragon. It comes from an understanding i achieved by streaming my thoughts of him in noir. I can't expect others to appreciate that read.

With BH trolling; how is that directly indicative of being scum? Unfortunately, shit heads troll all the time.

Do I think BH is scum.: Yes
Do i think I can make a case for him currently: No

Are there 3 scum left: Yes
Should I continue to scum hunt for the remaining two: Yes

I'm diving Pandain atm. Results to follow soon-ish. Then I be out rest of the day. (irl, not cycle)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 23:46 GMT
#1719
On October 20 2013 08:43 syllogism wrote:
That Mocsta case on Mattchew is up there among the least convincing cases I've read in this game. It appears to amount to "mafia briefly discussed something fairly irrelevant with another player, therefore that player is mafia". Could Mocsta actually believe that is a reasonable reason for suspecting someone, not to mention be his number one suspect, or is that a case made by a mafia who is under suspicion and just had three of his teammates flip on n?.

Syllo,

You say you want to policy lynch me; and now you are talking about mafia mindset.

What is your actual problem with my play?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 19 2013 23:57 GMT
#1725
On October 20 2013 08:47 Holyflare wrote:
Want more damning conclusions/evidence?

Here is Mocsta's original case: Click me!

and this:

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 00:05 Mocsta wrote:
On October 18 2013 22:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Mocsta, why is syllo getting a free pass day1 for being a potential town asset and BH(Zaragon) is not?

Because zaragon was my best scum read.

Bh doesn't affect that.

I will give cephiro some co sideratiin when I get home.

I don't feel confident with him in general after noir regardless.

So fat one gu looks better too so I'm not interested in him currently.


There's 1 kp, scum just got hit hard, I don't think they'd be in the position to bus right now, so why has mocsta dropped this entire read for mattchew instead? Especially as the evidence he's given isn't very damning for mattchew. I had a case on mattchew before the lynch too that was much more substantial but I've been discussing this with him in our QT, his reactions to me were very puzzled at how nobody could understand why he was doing the things he was doing (not something I'd expect from a scum) but I'm still a little wary.




Mocsta also switched his vote during the Cephiro/Palmar situation to BH. He switched after I said day 2 was better to get a read off him but then switched to Palmar who arguably was the same. Why? Palmar was going after Mocsta and only him. It's obviously an easy wagon to join.


You are tunneled and making fallacious arguments.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

I can not help it if you do not like my reasoning. It is what it is.
But where you can help yourself: is by not jumping to one conclusion to provide answers to satiate your theory.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 20 2013 00:00 GMT
#1727
On October 20 2013 08:58 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Mocsta, gief lvl (%) of scuminess on both BH and Mattchew plz.

I dont work off percentage.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 20 2013 00:11 GMT
#1730
On October 20 2013 09:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 08:57 Mocsta wrote:
On October 20 2013 08:47 Holyflare wrote:
Want more damning conclusions/evidence?

Here is Mocsta's original case: Click me!

and this:

On October 19 2013 00:05 Mocsta wrote:
On October 18 2013 22:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Mocsta, why is syllo getting a free pass day1 for being a potential town asset and BH(Zaragon) is not?

Because zaragon was my best scum read.

Bh doesn't affect that.

I will give cephiro some co sideratiin when I get home.

I don't feel confident with him in general after noir regardless.

So fat one gu looks better too so I'm not interested in him currently.


There's 1 kp, scum just got hit hard, I don't think they'd be in the position to bus right now, so why has mocsta dropped this entire read for mattchew instead? Especially as the evidence he's given isn't very damning for mattchew. I had a case on mattchew before the lynch too that was much more substantial but I've been discussing this with him in our QT, his reactions to me were very puzzled at how nobody could understand why he was doing the things he was doing (not something I'd expect from a scum) but I'm still a little wary.




Mocsta also switched his vote during the Cephiro/Palmar situation to BH. He switched after I said day 2 was better to get a read off him but then switched to Palmar who arguably was the same. Why? Palmar was going after Mocsta and only him. It's obviously an easy wagon to join.


You are tunneled and making fallacious arguments.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

I can not help it if you do not like my reasoning. It is what it is.
But where you can help yourself: is by not jumping to one conclusion to provide answers to satiate your theory.


It is most definitely not tunneling and I of course know what that is. I can say the same thing about all of your last posts confirming/disproving towns/scum. A lot of those were confirmation biased opinions. This is just stating facts. Either way, I am comfortable lynching BH in light of this and it gives us more time to discuss other scenarios/scum.

##Vote: Blazinghand

Ohh i agree completely my mattchew post was a leap of faith. I did not call it a case either. If you read any of my games, this is how I play. I'm a high risk gambler. Can't help it. I think it contributes to why people find me hard to read, I dunno.
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