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On October 20 2013 02:02 Grackaroni wrote:
just to clarify, you were aware that Syllo was confirmed town and put him as your townread anyway or you missed the part where he became confirmed town?
Are you talking to me? Syllo wasn't confirmed town before the lynch.
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Grats on reading the thread bro...
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On October 20 2013 02:06 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 02:02 justanothertownie wrote:On October 20 2013 01:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On October 20 2013 01:57 justanothertownie wrote:On October 20 2013 01:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On October 20 2013 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:On October 20 2013 01:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On October 20 2013 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn there is a problem with your logic. Mattchew was never leading in votes as far as I know. Not even close to. Your whole theory depends on Mattchew being scum - it is essentially just one big pre-flip connection case.
I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though. No JAT, don't fucking bullshit me. There were 4 votes within 3 minutes going on Mattchew with a case of HolyFlare to fuel that wagon. There were at that time 5 votes on Palmar. So there was reason to believe Mattchew wagon was going to happen because Palmar wagon lost steam. But then 2 people who voted Mattchew went 180 FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL 3 minutes after they voted Mattchew. Do not spew bullshit JAT. Don't do it. ^ What is wrong with what I say? Tell me? Why was Mattchew not happening except for the reason that 2 people (Mocsta and certainly Cephiro) who believed in the Mattchew wagon jsut went 180 and voted for either BH (what wasn't going to happen) or went back to fucking Palmar (who wasn't a scumread of Cephiro) And then there was you who had actual point to vote on Mattchew while you were indecisive but decided to not push the Mattchew wagon at all and then went for Palmar lynch because of strong town reads. Please give me those townreads + reasoning FAST. Who is talking here btw. feels very much like rayn and it is not signed. I count 6 votes on Palmar before there was even a single one on Mattchew. 2 of them came directly after cephiros list. Maybe YOU should stop spewing bullshit, yes? Palmars wagon picked up speed and did not lose steam. Yes, Cephiros voting makes not much sense but he was really trying to not be lynched so I am not sure how rational he was. I probably shouldn't be giving townreads right now but they are both primary targets already anyways. Syllo and LA. One of the 6 was this guy On October 19 2013 04:47 Cephiro wrote:
##vote Palmar But he went to Mattchew. So Palmar had 5 votes and Mattchew 4. So please JAT. DON'T TWIST MY FACTS. I said it was 5 vs 4. And this only proves more that Mattchew wagon was getting steam. It was 6-0 first and then it went 5-4 within 5 minutes. So JAT? Why so scummy? And everybody knows LA and Syllo are town. Grtz on noticing that bro. Ok, you are right I have to admit. Still doesn't make me scum at all. Mattchew already lost all steam when I voted Palmar. I could have savely voted him if we were both scum. You asked for my townreads - I answered. Now you complain. Great. It's the fact that you didn't push Mattchew when he was hot, it was your only read in this game. Why are you not happy to participate? A guy you didn't like was on the chopping block. You wanted off Cephiro. Why not take action into own hands? Why so passive? Why so scummy? It was not my only read in this game. On the chopping block were 2 guys I both didn't like and I decided to go with the one people I trusted wanted to kill. Is this that hard to understand? Yes, I understand that. And that is why it makes you scum. You aren't doing shit this game, you didn't give 1 reason in 47 hours why Cephiro was scum. You just sheeped thread sentiment. Then when You want to go off Cephiro you have Palmar, somebody you didn't say shit about the entire game, and you have Mattchew which seemingly you had in your vision because you gave 2 reasons why you didn't like him. But what do you do? You wait another 5 mins passivily and then say: "Ok I am voting Palmar because I am just following thread sentiment again' You are doing nothing JAT. Pick it up. I am pretty sure you will be alive day 2. I am more interested in Mattchew, Mocsta and Cephiro anyway.
Why are you lying about me?
Cephiro:
On October 19 2013 04:05 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 04:00 Holyflare wrote:On October 19 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
To be fair to ceph, nobody has great reasons for him being scum other than poorly substantiated meta and some confirmation bias along the lines of "well if he is scum I think he'd play like this".
I mean, sure his scumhunting isn't there but WHOSE IS?
I mean, I'd be somewhat pissed to discover that many votes on me when the key argument is "lurking" and there are players like Stutters and JAT and BH and more contributing equally little.
On the other hand, meta may still be a reason and I'm not sure who else we lynch (not palmar people). This is NOTHING to do with meta. He posted 1 post at the time, cast suspicion on people that already had suspicion on themselves, he posted a few other names that were not mentioned by anyone else but then never followed up on them. Half of his post was explaining himself Rayn made an excellent point: Here about it. It has everything to do with meta. Did you have a look at Noir? This looks like that. The stuff someone posted about his aperture play looks wildly different. Cephiro stop defending yourself and tell us who should be lynched instead of you.
Palmar:
On October 18 2013 08:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Caught up.
Palmar if you are town please don't limit yourself to this SAM thing - yeah I get that you have to make this a primary topic... I am not in the position to critisize someone for not having the time to read the thread but if you do please give us some other thoughts. I did not read many of your games but I watched the video of hero mafia and I am sure you have some useful things to share if you read the thread.
I really don't see the point in limiting yourself to Mocsta discussion...
He didn't do shit. I did not like it.
Yeah, I probably won't be killed - we agree on that.
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On October 20 2013 02:08 StorrZerg wrote:
So i asked for more clarity about names in my QT.
concluded with bad things can happen to those who show their name. and that mafia probably have a town name and a mafia name.
I assume then its possible that mafia have an ability to find peoples name.
Even so, wouldn't there be a limit to what a mafia could do with a name? wouldn't it be better for the SAM and syllo to just claim their name? (more so SAM).
Is it wrong of me to assume that a mafia would have no limit on a power that could kill (when you knew the name of a player?)
I don't understand this post. Are you against claiming names or not?
If not what would we gain from them claiming their names?
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On October 20 2013 02:26 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 02:20 StorrZerg wrote:My thoughts about people from my house Grack - i like how much he is enjoying the game. Very visible in the QT and the thread. This gives me a pretty good feeling about him so i think he is town. Mattchew, he has outed some stuff in the QT to the public. (town aspect i guess?) He wanted to kill me then backed off and went with my Lynch (Sn0) this felt weird. I'm still a little put off by him. Hopeless first comment was his joke. Since then he has posted 3 other times. (he calls Syllo good) , and another he points out that it is a closed set up and anything can happen. I wish he would talk more in the QT Palmar said he liked me <3 (well then he got lynched  i feel pretty stupid going with the wagon on him now. ) Holyflare suggest we say our pick up lines in the QT first before submitting. He talks about the item and why we should be trying to win it. I like his logic. He thinks the more we post in here the better. He helps to explain some concepts to me, hydra namely. He tells me there is little point to making another post about Sn0 (a few hours out of the vote time), unless i can back it up with new stuff or better stuff. I'm feeling somewhat ok about Holy, but him asking me to slow down off Sn0 (at least the way he asked it) Felt a little off putting. If that is your House it is either you are Mattchew that is scum. Maybe both.
Look. We agree on something!
If there is scum in every house - we don't know that.
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On October 20 2013 02:32 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 02:28 justanothertownie wrote:On October 20 2013 02:26 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On October 20 2013 02:20 StorrZerg wrote:My thoughts about people from my house Grack - i like how much he is enjoying the game. Very visible in the QT and the thread. This gives me a pretty good feeling about him so i think he is town. Mattchew, he has outed some stuff in the QT to the public. (town aspect i guess?) He wanted to kill me then backed off and went with my Lynch (Sn0) this felt weird. I'm still a little put off by him. Hopeless first comment was his joke. Since then he has posted 3 other times. (he calls Syllo good) , and another he points out that it is a closed set up and anything can happen. I wish he would talk more in the QT Palmar said he liked me <3 (well then he got lynched i feel pretty stupid going with the wagon on him now. ) Holyflare suggest we say our pick up lines in the QT first before submitting. He talks about the item and why we should be trying to win it. I like his logic. He thinks the more we post in here the better. He helps to explain some concepts to me, hydra namely. He tells me there is little point to making another post about Sn0 (a few hours out of the vote time), unless i can back it up with new stuff or better stuff. I'm feeling somewhat ok about Holy, but him asking me to slow down off Sn0 (at least the way he asked it) Felt a little off putting. If that is your House it is either you are Mattchew that is scum. Maybe both. Look. We agree on something! If there is scum in every house - we don't know that. If I look at your filter I thought you were more leaning scum on Hopeless? Is that feeling gone? Why? Is there something in your filter about Storrzerg?
My feeling on hopeless changed when I was reading his filter (I have no townread on him but I didn't find enough for a scumread). I stated that. There is nothing about Storrzerg but I don't like the idea he just presented.
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On October 20 2013 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 02:32 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On October 20 2013 02:28 justanothertownie wrote:On October 20 2013 02:26 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On October 20 2013 02:20 StorrZerg wrote:My thoughts about people from my house Grack - i like how much he is enjoying the game. Very visible in the QT and the thread. This gives me a pretty good feeling about him so i think he is town. Mattchew, he has outed some stuff in the QT to the public. (town aspect i guess?) He wanted to kill me then backed off and went with my Lynch (Sn0) this felt weird. I'm still a little put off by him. Hopeless first comment was his joke. Since then he has posted 3 other times. (he calls Syllo good) , and another he points out that it is a closed set up and anything can happen. I wish he would talk more in the QT Palmar said he liked me <3 (well then he got lynched i feel pretty stupid going with the wagon on him now. ) Holyflare suggest we say our pick up lines in the QT first before submitting. He talks about the item and why we should be trying to win it. I like his logic. He thinks the more we post in here the better. He helps to explain some concepts to me, hydra namely. He tells me there is little point to making another post about Sn0 (a few hours out of the vote time), unless i can back it up with new stuff or better stuff. I'm feeling somewhat ok about Holy, but him asking me to slow down off Sn0 (at least the way he asked it) Felt a little off putting. If that is your House it is either you are Mattchew that is scum. Maybe both. Look. We agree on something! If there is scum in every house - we don't know that. If I look at your filter I thought you were more leaning scum on Hopeless? Is that feeling gone? Why? Is there something in your filter about Storrzerg? My feeling on hopeless changed when I was reading his filter (I have no townread on him but I didn't find enough for a scumread). I stated that. There is nothing about Storrzerg but I don't like the idea he just presented.
Also Palmar thought he was town.
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On October 20 2013 04:35 I-be-Pro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 02:36 I-be-Pro wrote:
Honestly I've reread a coupld of things and I'm really not sure about a strong mafiaread right now. I've got a couple ones where I'd be "yeah could be mafia" but nothing to strong. The one on ET could be easily wrong imo, as I've been cherrypicking when writing about him, I'm still somewhat confused about Mocsta despite the green flip on Palmar, which completly busted my theory and reason to be wary of him but I'm not getting anything where I'd say "KILL IT WITH FIRE"...
I'm probably going to post my trademark picture during deadline. Keep Syllo alive at all cost please. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/J9PpOAu.png) ET is the guy I'm buddied with or someone in my QT lied. It could be possible that my buddy is mafia, a thought that crossed my mind is that maybe my buddy isn't in the game but that'd be kind of a bitch-move from hosts so I'm pretty sure that's not the case, also the fact that noone is crying or raging about my claim makes it somewhat more likely it's a mafia imo. I'd say ET has the best chance of flipping red. Not sure if my read on superssoft is correct, I'd say that's the most likely to be wrong out of the vets. Mocsta is neutral because I still don't like the SAM claim, his inthread presence is a slight townread which cancels that out. BH is hard because I think he's trolling and lying all the time, maybe it's him being my buddy and he just lied, idk. Ceph green solely because of the notes, otherwise he'd be yellow/orange. I'd put Vayne and rayn as slight townreads if I knew them a little better, which you guys seem to do, so I left them white because it's my first game with them and you seem to be saying they're playing to their mafiameta. I'd put them down as slightly townish without knowing them.
Interesting. So yellow means scummy, yes?
If so - why is ET the only scumread you are giving reasons for while discussing your townier reads more indepht?
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On October 20 2013 04:44 I-be-Pro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 04:39 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Who's sayin i am playing to my scum meta? This is important.
-rayn I remember people saying that some would instalynch you if it was one or the other part of you posting from d1, so that's why I left you out as neutral despite having a townread on you. Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 04:39 justanothertownie wrote:On October 20 2013 04:35 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 20 2013 02:36 I-be-Pro wrote:
Honestly I've reread a coupld of things and I'm really not sure about a strong mafiaread right now. I've got a couple ones where I'd be "yeah could be mafia" but nothing to strong. The one on ET could be easily wrong imo, as I've been cherrypicking when writing about him, I'm still somewhat confused about Mocsta despite the green flip on Palmar, which completly busted my theory and reason to be wary of him but I'm not getting anything where I'd say "KILL IT WITH FIRE"...
I'm probably going to post my trademark picture during deadline. Keep Syllo alive at all cost please. ET is the guy I'm buddied with or someone in my QT lied. It could be possible that my buddy is mafia, a thought that crossed my mind is that maybe my buddy isn't in the game but that'd be kind of a bitch-move from hosts so I'm pretty sure that's not the case, also the fact that noone is crying or raging about my claim makes it somewhat more likely it's a mafia imo. I'd say ET has the best chance of flipping red. Not sure if my read on superssoft is correct, I'd say that's the most likely to be wrong out of the vets. Mocsta is neutral because I still don't like the SAM claim, his inthread presence is a slight townread which cancels that out. BH is hard because I think he's trolling and lying all the time, maybe it's him being my buddy and he just lied, idk. Ceph green solely because of the notes, otherwise he'd be yellow/orange. I'd put Vayne and rayn as slight townreads if I knew them a little better, which you guys seem to do, so I left them white because it's my first game with them and you seem to be saying they're playing to their mafiameta. I'd put them down as slightly townish without knowing them. Interesting. So yellow means scummy, yes? If so - why is ET the only scumread you are giving reasons for while discussing your townier reads more indepht? yellow is labeled as "somewhat scummy". Cephiro was the only one that got to orange so far and back to greenish-later on... Because like I said above, I'm really not feeling sure about those reads, it's what I think so far but I haven't found anything outstanding without cherrypicking, which is what I earlier today when going through ET's filter imo, which is also the reason he's only yellow despite being the one I'd be most confident about.
Still there have to be reasons for you to paint those cells yellow, no? You discusses "hard" reads in this post anyways - why leave out your scumreads?
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On October 20 2013 05:30 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 05:26 Holyflare wrote:On October 20 2013 05:25 Skanjab1s wrote:On October 20 2013 05:22 Onegu wrote:On October 20 2013 05:20 Skanjab1s wrote:
Cool.
Who is LA's mason partner? He said stutters in qt Are they modconf town partners, or did he not specify? He said in the thread don't kill stutters trust me, it's kind of obvious That was Supersoft, not sure why he said that as he isn't the one who was masoned with him.
Stutters said this too. In the qt. He mentioned there was someone who had info about his role but it wouldn't be supersoft.
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On October 20 2013 05:30 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 05:26 syllogism wrote:
Definitely not modconfirmed. He said Stutters was very unresponsive in their mason qt and PMs. Stutters is very unimpressive in house QT aswell.
-rayn
Still true.
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If I am mad that's because you try to force me to do this lame ass contest and claim that everyone except me is confirmed town in our house. I vehemently disagree with this.
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On October 20 2013 06:20 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 06:11 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 20 2013 06:00 Stutters695 wrote:
To answer some questions about me with the flips:
I obviously was his mason partner.
I'm assuming supersoft didn't want me viged because LA was more than capable of determining my alignment.
We weren't modconfirmed as far as we know (and acted as such) unless you consider being twins modconfirmed, which we didn't.
I was interested in super in the griff qt because LA hadn't told me he shared with his qt. I figured it out after looking over the qt lists then had LA confirm it.
The reason for my inactivity in that qt was a mix of my usual inactivity d1 and that I stated early that I was going to use that qt sparingly because we weren't confirmed, but picked it up a bit after he was clearly town in the thread.
Any other questions? scumreads? you're one of mine due to lackthereof. To start: Cephiro. I explained why earlier and he has done nothing to convince me otherwise. After that I'm not sure, I was trying to take it more one at a time because although I was scum in Noir, I was legit overwhelmed with the rate the thread moves. I'll get more into it once I have a chance to sit down after work.
Make sure to follow up this time...
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On October 20 2013 07:01 syllogism wrote:
No, me being an innocent child is my license not to do anything. Even now I'm just pushing a policy lynch on a miller.
Wat
It is no policy lynch and I sincerely hope you don't abuse this license because you probably won't live much longer anyways.
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Just read the thread BH please...
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On October 20 2013 07:09 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:On October 20 2013 07:01 syllogism wrote:
No, me being an innocent child is my license not to do anything. Even now I'm just pushing a policy lynch on a miller. Wat It is no policy lynch and I sincerely hope you don't abuse this license because you probably won't live much longer anyways. Whether it is a policy lynch or not depends on whether he flips mafia or not. If he flips town, I was just following Palmar's dying wish.
Yeah...
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On October 20 2013 07:38 syllogism wrote:
It would be pretty funny if JAT was mafia
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On October 20 2013 07:43 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 07:41 syllogism wrote:On October 20 2013 07:40 justanothertownie wrote:On October 20 2013 07:38 syllogism wrote:
It would be pretty funny if JAT was mafia ? He suggested that him being suspicious of you should give him town credit because "you" flipped mafia, when in fact LonelyMeow did. It's irrelevant though and likely just a mistake, don't worry about it. Ignore this man! Worry about it. YOU SHOULD BE VERY AFRAID!!!
If I have the choice I would rather ignore you and your constant useless trolling.
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