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Skanjab1s
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On October 17 2013 08:07 Hopeless1der wrote: Skanj name someone in the thread that might care about your QT convos. Nobody at all, we haven't had much conversation yet. Just a couple posts about the Challenge. | ||
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Skanjab1s
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Scum. | ||
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On October 17 2013 08:15 I-be-Pro wrote: It's how I play d1. I make a big deal out of very minor things to make people talk about things happening in the thread instead of talking about politics/house-quests or whatever else. The intention is to get some reactions from people and have a quick start into d1. Some people have to start the discussion somehow and I usually take that as my job on d1. Means I'm usually a big meanie on d1 and I'm often times stating things that look like nothing to people and they're hardly anything else to me most of the time as well. But I find that a lot better than having a discussion the first 24 hours about some weird plan of someone because people have to commit somewhat the way I'm doing things. I might add it is currently working but now I'm really sleeping  So your plan for catching scum is "post things that aren't important, because then people will talk about unimportant things and that will give me reads" | ||
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Skanjab1s
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On October 17 2013 08:15 Hopeless1der wrote: Maybe you misunderstood my question. Someone in the game thread specifically indicated he wanted qt convos to be related in this thread. I was asking if you knew who that was. Oh yeah, I misunderstood you then. Thought you were just trying to see who we were discussing in our QT or something. | ||
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Skanjab1s
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On October 17 2013 08:17 Sn0_Man wrote: Why don't you 1-up him by posting important things? Oh, I am. | ||
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1-up'd. | ||
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On October 17 2013 08:22 Hopeless1der wrote: Skanj, humor me at least...who was I referring to? supersoft | ||
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Skanjab1s
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On October 17 2013 08:35 Holyflare wrote: What do you think of him OMGUSing this. His defenses have been kind of shitty IMO and then when someone says they want to generate discussion he is surprised by it? Any discussion that isn't the normal policy lynch crap is good discussion. Look at what we've got already, people soft defending, people criticising and people discussing. Why is he attacking for this? It is not an OMGUS at all. I'm not voting for him, nor am I FoSing him. Calm down sonny. Also calling me out for OMGUSing is quite silly when all the active people barr one have accused me. | ||
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Skanjab1s
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On October 17 2013 08:45 Holyflare wrote: If you're not FoSing him why even mention what he is doing in a post? That's pointless. He points something out. You say the logic that's going through your mind of why you did it, you move on and do some scum hunting. That would be the natural course of events? You're pointing out that what I said was pointless in a post where I point out what he was said was pointless. Really now. | ||
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Skanjab1s
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On October 17 2013 09:01 Holyflare wrote: He's telling you the reasoning behind his actions. He's pointing out new information that we could not have unless we were in his house QT that he deemed not very relevant but we MAY. It's the divulgence which is useful. To call his post pointless was dismissing these facts. I am calling out the fact that you seem against deciphering new information. All information is good information. Please tell me how any read whatsoever could be divulged from the information that he shared? | ||
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On October 17 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote: ##Expelliarmus! yamato77 butterbeer on me What did that do? | ||
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On October 17 2013 20:28 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Well, if +5 people say what you wrote was bad, and nobody says it was good. I am going to believe it was bad. Skanjab is not a townread for me, I can vote him but wont persue him anymore. Others can do that. You say that you initially went after me to get a read on me, and you also say that I'm not a townread for you, then why would you not want to pursue me further? I am either a null read, in which case you should want to continue in your initial intention, or I am a scumread and you should want to get me lynched. Either way, hoping for others to attack me for you while you sit back isn't very protown. | ||
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Skanjab1s
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I think he is scum, I dislike a lot of his posts: (1) He has been making a habit of lightly FoSing a bunch of people, but then not following up. Which feels to me like he is fishing for someone to latch on to, and waiting for town's consent before being willing to proceed. Examples: + Show Spoiler + On October 17 2013 16:51 yamato77 wrote: Honestly I could still lynch this hydra even if it was Koshi who made this post, just because of how shitty it really is. On October 17 2013 10:38 yamato77 wrote: that if it was Rayn I would lynch him on the spot? + Show Spoiler + On October 17 2013 15:57 yamato77 wrote: I will say about Matt, it seems odd to me that he instantly seems to trust me this game when I believe he thought I was mafia last game on D1 for absolutely no reason. I expect town Matt to be very suspicious of other people; it seems out of place for him to have such friendly interaction with me. All of these show yamato lightly FoSing people, and then failing to mention/pursue them again. (2) Here is another example that would fit in #1, but I feel it deserves a special mention because it shows yamato's inconsistency in his scum choices. On October 17 2013 10:38 yamato77 wrote: zzzzzzzzzz Moc your opening posts always reek of scum He mentions Moc's post as "reeking of scum" but refuses to state what was scummy about the post. He futhermore, does not further pressure Moc, and instead, a short while later, defends Moc for the exact same post that he just said "reeks of scum": On October 17 2013 10:41 yamato77 wrote: this is true, but town in GoT were the idiots who came up with the secrecy idea in the first place, so this doesn't mean Moc is mafia unless he's playing intentionally stupid (3) After some game mechanics talk, we arrive at his OMGUS vote on VA. After VA casted "Expelliarmus" on him, he cast a vote onto VA with the reasoning "I'm sick of you". If we just ignore the OMGUS, this is still very poor reasoning for a vote, especially considering the amount of FoS's he has made with actual points. There is no reason given as to why he might think VA is scum whatsoever. Just after this post, he FoS'd Koshi/rayn again with this: On October 17 2013 16:51 yamato77 wrote: Honestly I could still lynch this hydra even if it was Koshi who made this post, just because of how shitty it really is. But still does not vote for him, nor attempt to further push him, preferring instead to keep his vote on VA. To sum up this last point: This vote on VA feels to me like a reactionary vote in fear of VA's cast ability. It is further scummy when read in comparison to the other people he has FoS'd with actual reasoning that he neglects. ##vote: yamato | ||
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Skanjab1s
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On October 17 2013 22:47 Hopeless1der wrote: Toad is talking about Fruity and/or BangBang mafia. marv's comment was fruity iirc, but both of them were smurfs. Weird game, that one. skanj, re your (Case on Yamato post), I have no problem with Yamato's vote. The fact that he has refrained from voting his "FoS's" is more town oriented. He's maintaining a level head while communicating his reads and intentions. Like getting Vayne to man the fuck up and play properly. VA comes in, attempts to namehunt mocsta and trolls Yam a bit before peacing out. I wouldn't stand for that shit if it happened to me, why should anyone have to deal with it? I don't think Yam particularly wants to lynch VA over it, but I think he's willing to go through with it if VA doesn't shape up. He has my full support if this is the case. ##Vote: VayneAuthority That was not the only point in the case, but I disagree, it comes off as "testing the waters" which is inherently scummy. I am also not under the impression that VA was trolling yam, I thought that the "Expelliarmus" was an ability of his. VA could you clarify, please? | ||
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Skanjab1s
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On October 17 2013 23:08 Hopeless1der wrote: Because I'm more concerned about the toxic nature of town's on TL in general than my initial gutread on D1 of a closed theme game. I also was the one who asked skanj to take a break because he looked like he was digging himself into a scummier hole to me, and it felt too easy. Since coming back he's got a case on yamato, albeit one that I think is wrong. He still gets points for trying. @Skannj the hosts came in and gave a votecount, which included Yam's vote on VA. There has been no evidence that VA has done anything more than be a dick to Yamato and it has been completely unprovoked (as far as what I see in this thread). I count that as trolling, and I don't want it in my town. To your "testing the waters" comment, here is yamato's recent filter from noir. Read the first 2-3 pages of that and let me know how you feel please. If we are going flavourwise, I'd expect it to be a roleblock. After reading the first 3 pages I can see a noticeable difference in his play there than here. In that game he immediately started by making a list of reads and voting on someone who he thoughts was scum. He then later changed his vote again, but not before pressuring the person he had voted, while still discussing a lot in the thread. This game he shows a reluctance to vote and put pressure on his scumreads that he didn't show in that game. | ||
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Skanjab1s
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On October 17 2013 23:17 yamato77 wrote: I don't follow up on my suspicions? Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Laughing at it doesn't make it not true, you have yet to follow up on any of the people you have pointed fingers at, instead choosing to target VA because you're "sick of him". | ||
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On October 17 2013 23:18 Hopeless1der wrote: Nothing that I'd be confident in any case I tried to make, no. skanj is still my strongest read, but thats a relative term. I'd rather lynch VA with his jokes to see yamato squirm at this point. I am your strongest scumread? You told me to cool off, because you thought I was getting overwhelmed and it seemed "too easy". This implies that you had a town read on me, obviously. You then give me additional "points" for the case I made. And now I am a scumread of yours? I'm sorry but I don't follow this faulty logic of yours, please explain. | ||
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