Risen could actually be mafia for that case.

It's just so dumb. I told him earlier that a case like that is going to convince nobody, and he does exactly the same thing on another player?

what the fuck is that shit?

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 20:44 GMT

#847

I could take anyone's filter in the game (probably including my own) and make some ridiculous narrative out of it. It's just awful.

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 20:46 GMT

#849

Why don't you tell me what the good points were, that sounds like more fun. I did in fact skim it and I kinda vommed inside my mouth while doing so, so I'd rather avoid the experience a 2nd time.

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 20:49 GMT

#852

I don't understand why he'd make that sort of case when I said pretty clearly how unconvincing that kind of case was last time.

It's like he actually wants to be ignored.

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 20:56 GMT

#854

Alright, I read the 2nd half of the case.

The thing that is not valid: Risen says that rayn is willing to vote his townread (Risen himself). This is pretty clearly not true given the posts quoted

The thing that is valid: that rayn seems to be not bothered by his top scumread voting his 2nd scumread. This one's more interesting. Actually I partly caught Cephiro (ok he was already caught) in Noir because he produced two scumreads and didn't mention that one attacked the other. It wasn't on day 1 though.

Arguably Dirkzor is my 2nd "scumread" even though I'm not sure he actually is though. Actually in the end I don't have that much of a problem on day 1 with that sort of thing, because it means maybe you're wrong on something. You can't make votes based on rankings of scumminess, because what that is is connections between unflipped players when it comes down to it.

I would reiterate that slOosh being scummy but not scummiest for both rayn and BH earlier in the day kinda made me feel good about that lynch. For the "hedging bets" kinda reasons

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 20:58 GMT

#855

One other thing - the case (or what I read of it) makes it sound like Risen thinks that slOosh is rayn's scumbuddy.

Which necessarily would mean that Clarity is town, and yet Risen said that his feelings on Clarity remained the same.

And yet partly at least the case on rayn almost seems to rest on slOosh being mafia? Risen says that rayn is doing anything not to vote slOosh. Surely this only makes sense if slOosh is mafia, surely therefore it makes sense to lynch slOosh (given they would both be mafia) to prove that part of the case.

Yes?

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 21:00 GMT

#856

I'd actually really like thoughts on my post just there.

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 21:03 GMT

#858

It wasn't a "I'm getting impatient", it was a "I'm still mulling over what I wrote and I think it might be quite significant so I'm gonna say something else to emphasise it" type thing.

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 21:06 GMT

#861

On October 04 2013 06:05 Risen wrote:
HE'S WILLING TO VOTE FOR A TOWN READ

NO HE ISN'T

HE NEVER SAYS THAT

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 21:07 GMT

#863

On October 04 2013 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
Risen is saying that rayn didn't mention first scumread targeting second. I'm not sure he's implying they are together though I could be wrong. I get the feeling that this sloosh wagon while seemingly apt has gained a lot of traction quickly which I'm not sure I'm too thrilled about. It's all seemed to fit together too nicely and people have kind of just slotted into it...

if slOosh is mafia there's only one other mafia to provide resistance to it.

And slOosh barely reached a majority.

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 21:19 GMT

#874

I literally told you EXACTLY what was wrong with your last case.

:/

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 21:36 GMT

#885

Any wagon is stoppable.

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 21:37 GMT

#887

He means that he thinks you could be town because you've had the same thoughts as me a lot.

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 21:39 GMT

#890

I should be around most of the time up until deadline too. I think there's enough players for a wagon if slOosh suddenly starts shitting towniness.

marvellosity

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October 03 2013 21:42 GMT

#892

The thing about BH is that he calls slOosh suspicious earlier in the day, and then with literally nothing from slOosh in between, now declares him town and he won't vote for him.

It's smelly.