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On October 08 2013 23:03 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 23:01 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2013 23:00 Dirkzor wrote:On October 08 2013 22:27 marvellosity wrote:
like, say Dirk's plan is to go 1v1 with me today.
he wins that and i flip. then what? We win. Or if I'm completely off and you flip town most likely I'm dead and town loose. Can't you see how insane it is for me to go 1v1 with you if I'm scum. Can't you see how insane it is for me to kill off a potential mislynch who also happened to have a strong townread on me? Those arguments don't fly, sweetcheeks. The fact i'm willing to talk about these things at all should tell you something. But apparently it doesn't. Thats what I've been saying all along. I doesn't make sense for anyone to kill Oats. Whoever did it had a plan with the move. (You said so yourself) I don't want to try and read into what that move means when I don't know. So I largely disregard it and focus on other areas of the game that makes more sense. Like D1 lynch
Then why are you asking me how insane it is to go 1v1 with me? It's a pointless question because everything can be reduced to something irrational.
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On October 08 2013 23:05 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 23:02 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2013 23:02 Dirkzor wrote:On October 08 2013 20:54 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2013 20:45 Dirkzor wrote:On October 08 2013 20:03 Clarity_nl wrote:On October 08 2013 20:00 marvellosity wrote:
cmon Clarity, that's cheap. He said it after making two giant posts explaining things. Like I really don't care if it's cheap. It is cheap. And if you read my two post nothing they contain are really from anything after D1 lynch. ignoring more than half the game isn't a point in your favour, my love. I just focus my scumhunting on day1 becase thats the day that produced the most. Is that wrong? yes, you focus on everything. also, you don't mean "day 1" because as you yourself has said, I was very pro-town for the large majority of day 1. You are in fact taking about a 2 hour period of the 140 hours that this game has been going. And you have only focused on the 2hours prior to present this entire game.
Now you're just saying things. How is this in any way true?
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I'm agreeing it was stupid, that's how I fucking phrased it.
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That's not how I've played this game, and it's not how I've played a lot of my towngames. I play off interactions and I go back and check things and I come to conclusions.
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P.S. I made the case on you Day 1 
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On October 08 2013 23:11 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 23:08 marvellosity wrote:P.S. I made the case on you Day 1 No you didn't. You voted me because of one post and asked a lot of question. Then you found me not scum and then proceeded to hop on/off about me the rest of the day..
lmao. this is hilarious.
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are you really so bad at mafia that you don't realise a case doesn't have to be a long consolidated post with quotes?
are you genuinely that awful?
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On October 08 2013 23:13 Dirkzor wrote:
Clarity Open your eyes and think for a moment that Marv isn't town. Read his filter from D1.
that filter that you repeatedly stressed was pro-town before the lynch?
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no, I'm disregarding you because you're terrible.
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On October 08 2013 23:17 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 23:13 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2013 23:13 Dirkzor wrote:
Clarity Open your eyes and think for a moment that Marv isn't town. Read his filter from D1. that filter that you repeatedly stressed was pro-town before the lynch? Repeatedly?! That pulling a stretch. I said it once, maybe twice. Also we can't all be town can we? HF looks town, Clarity Looks town, Risen looks town. Call it confirmation bias.
Scummy confirmation bias, because you're not actually trying to solve the game, you're just pummelling away.
On October 07 2013 18:34 Dirkzor wrote:
Clarity I agree. Marv is somewhere nagging... I have a pretty good town read, but still...
On October 08 2013 02:40 Dirkzor wrote:
I've had a pretty good town read on marv most of the game and don't believe Risen made his case on Rayn as scumbuddy. That leaves Oats. At this point in the game Oats hadn't really done anything (imo) to warrent such a strong no-lynch comment which makes it stand out to me.
This is just my thoughts loudly when I saw it... (maybe because I already think oats is scum I make things fit... anyway)
"Read marv's filter from day 1" you ask Clarity.
"marv is somewhere nagging" - such rubbish.
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I was literally willing to hear you out a lot.
Until you showed zero interest in Risen voting for a "townie" (you)
the fact you don't care about that is unbelievable.
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On October 08 2013 23:26 Dirkzor wrote:
Show me where else Risen is scum.
And don't say D1 lynch with his sloosh/rayn vote switches. I've explained that I disagree and I find it a town thing to do.
It's literally not the point. You just accept the vote as fine and normal.
That's NOT a townie reaction.
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you didn't ONCE ask Risen why he's voting for you, or ask him to change his mind...
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On October 08 2013 23:25 Dirkzor wrote:
I also had A super good scumread on Sloosh and see where that got us... My priority have been (since D1) have been Sloosh, Oats, You.
I knew I would loose a straight up discussion with you, but that won't stop me trying. When I flip town because you will eventually convince the rest that I'm scum I'll hope they will listen.
They would listen to you because you were so right on slOosh and Oats you mean? lololololololz
by the way, I don't need to convince the rest, I could just sit back on my laurels.
The only reason I'm arguing with you is because I give a fuck about solving the game. But you're either too dumb or too scum to understand this.
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On October 08 2013 23:28 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 23:26 Clarity_nl wrote:On October 08 2013 23:13 Dirkzor wrote:
Clarity Open your eyes and think for a moment that Marv isn't town. Read his filter from D1. If you think that wasn't the first thing I did after d1 you are wrong Then you tell me what Marv did D1? I'll summrize it if you want but I'd rather you(Or HF/Risen) read and posted what marv actually did D1. Explain his fake Oats pressure. Explain his Sloosh vote sheeping thread sentiment. Explain his Risen voteswitch at the end. Explain his BH stunt.
fake oats pressure? sheeping thread sentiment? are you demented?
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On October 08 2013 23:30 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 23:27 marvellosity wrote:
you didn't ONCE ask Risen why he's voting for you, or ask him to change his mind... What do you want me to do? "Oh Risen btw, could you not vote me?" I'm giving him a better alternative with you. That's my best and only defence. I can't defend against "Maybe dirk killed oats because blah blah" because it doesn't make sense anyway so there is no rational defence?!
I expect someone to care when they're being voted for terribad reasons.
Instead you've decided to tunnel one player and ignore 95% of the game.
Nice job you're doing if you're town bro.
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stop being terrible and i'll stop saying it
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On October 08 2013 23:28 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 23:26 Clarity_nl wrote:On October 08 2013 23:13 Dirkzor wrote:
Clarity Open your eyes and think for a moment that Marv isn't town. Read his filter from D1. If you think that wasn't the first thing I did after d1 you are wrong Then you tell me what Marv did D1? I'll summrize it if you want but I'd rather you(Or HF/Risen) read and posted what marv actually did D1. Explain his fake Oats pressure. Explain his Sloosh vote sheeping thread sentiment. Explain his Risen voteswitch at the end. Explain his BH stunt.
so while i'm semi-afk for 20 minutes right at the lynch, and sloosh and rayn are vying for votes, I decide not to vote for slOosh to secure a majority?
After Risen votes for slOosh, I just leave my vote on Risen instead of re-securing slOosh, and instead I let my scumbuddy die? That whole argument is trash
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On October 08 2013 23:39 Dirkzor wrote:
Clarity it's not about each individual thing he have done. They have all been just enough to look like Town marv pressuring or asking the right question. But have you seen marv push for any lynch for real? no!
He puts pressure on me. I answer and he backs of.
He puts pressure on Oats: Oats answer and he backs of.
You and I find sloosh scummy. He votes with nothing more then "I agree". No follow up.
He vote BH because "lols" (I still fairly believe he did that because he truely don't like BH btw)
Back to sloosh.
Then suddenly: Risen vote! Why? no one knows and noone cared at the time.
Risen was the non-sloosh option at the time before I got distracted. that's pretty simple, and you would KNOW THIS IF YOU RE-READ THE DAY 1 LYNCH.
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