Thug Life Mini Mafia

On September 24 2013 01:33 Palmar wrote:
ok /in

On September 27 2013 05:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's not my team so I believe him.

Other scum-team, feel free to acknowledge Palmar's request for an alliance. Ominously, it could be your only chance.

On September 27 2013 05:28 Palmar wrote:
So I'm assuming you're from the other team VE.

We need to work together to frame some poor fuck and get him lynched. We need someone sufficiently dumb, yet loud, maybe yamato?

On September 27 2013 05:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
idk what is going on, but even allianced they don't outnumber us quite yet. anyone not voting for palmar reminds me of the movie rounders

On September 27 2013 05:30 VayneAuthority wrote:


what do you mean? The cops have no day powers so it's not like he's trying anything.

On September 27 2013 05:30 VisceraEyes wrote:

I'm afraid that he's not loud enough. :/

On September 27 2013 05:35 VisceraEyes wrote:

I will also random lynch. I approve of this message in the name of the town.

On September 27 2013 05:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
You could also tunnel them into oblivion as their teammate, so I'm sure the scumteam is just quaking in their boots Yamato.

On September 27 2013 05:52 Palmar wrote:
Who gave WoS a high horse and why is he on it?

On September 27 2013 05:55 VisceraEyes wrote:

You misunderstand me - I fully expect WoS to have confidence. But his whole "OH FUCK ME I'M TOWN CRY CRY CRY CRY" seems overplayed. I did something similar, but I didn't write a whole post on the matter - only made a little joke about it. And I'm slightly more dramatic than WoS.

On September 27 2013 05:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
WHICH IS WHY I'M SAYING I'M WILLING TO WAIT YAMATO FUCKS SAKE SHUT THE FUCK UP

On September 27 2013 05:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't get what he is talking about when he says he knows stuff about the Noire game. Seems like he is just blowing smoke really which seems more like town WoS.

anyways I see no reason to not vote palmar or grackaroni this phase

On September 27 2013 05:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's not a read *massaging my temples, counting to 10*

Look dude, it was an observation. It was a fucking observation made LESS THAN 10 minutes into the game. It's not a read, I explicitly said I'm waiting to actually read him until he contributes something. Explicitly.

On September 27 2013 06:00 VayneAuthority wrote:


I see no reason for town to claim scum either, so I'd rather not have extra liars around.

On September 27 2013 06:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Completely serious about random lynching though, It gives better odds at catching scum than normal analysis day1 and it gives a good deal more information than you would think.

On September 27 2013 06:02 VayneAuthority wrote:


No, it's a horrible policy but this game will be a lot easier without people lying. The cops have a QT so they can figure out all the night action shit themselves when the time comes for it. Don't need any regular townies trying to fuck everything up

On September 27 2013 06:06 VayneAuthority wrote:


A vote isn't set in stone, can pressure them to actually post something more then hurp durp im scum to see what they really are.

On September 27 2013 06:07 Grackaroni wrote:
Mafia players are lynched 24.0% of the time on day one.
Random lynching would result in a mafia lynch 25.1% of the time.
-TL mafia database

Odds are even higher in this game. 6/19. It's so easy to just push off a lynch on to a townie day1 without anyone gathering suspicion from it.

On September 27 2013 06:14 Blazinghand wrote:
so are we random lynching?

On September 27 2013 06:18 Grackaroni wrote:
Just to clarify, you guys are voting me because you think I am mafia or because you think I am trolling?

On September 27 2013 06:21 VisceraEyes wrote:


*sigh*

On September 27 2013 06:21 Grackaroni wrote:

I have no idea what I would do just a genuine curiosity. all 3 are wrong by the way random lynches are pro-town. Palmar thinks so as well.

On September 27 2013 06:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Sounds like a case of scummy-not-remembering-what-bullshit-I-spewed to me.

##Vote: Yamato

You want a real game? Let's play a real game.

On September 27 2013 06:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'd like everyone voting Grack to explain in simple terms why they are so sure that what Grack is doing is NOT trying to find scum. I can wait. I've got aaaaaallll day.

On September 27 2013 06:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Am I cool because you think i'm town or because you think I am generally objectively cool

On September 27 2013 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote:

No but just saying "lynch Palmar" isn't a random lynch either dude. Like, obviously. So he's advocating a random lynch that's not a random lynch. Does that sound like something scum would take the initiative to do?

Conversely, could you see a town-aligned Grack doing something like that to try and see who votes Palmar?

It's null as fuck dude.

On September 27 2013 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't know, whatever he's looking for. I'm not Grack why don't you ask him about it? He could very well be scum as you say, I'm just trying to understand what the actual accusation is.

On September 27 2013 07:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
I believe him? Because he was advocating a random-lynch and then suggested a target, negating the idea behind a random-lynch?

On September 27 2013 07:23 VisceraEyes wrote:

!!!!!!!!!!

On September 27 2013 07:40 Blazinghand wrote:
for all you know yamato is afraid of the mighty random lynch. opposing it does not make him town

On September 27 2013 07:40 Grackaroni wrote:

don't fight the random lynch. Ease into it and we'll all be happier!



Lots of analysis comes from random lynches. The lynch doesn't just fall into place when somebody is RNG'd what happens when a person is randomly selected. how will people react. will people flip-flop or will they go through with their vote. Could lead to one of the most informative days 1s ever.

On September 27 2013 07:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Jesus man, chill out. We're like a couple hours in, and floating the random lynch idea is imo not a bad strat. If there's ever a game where random lynch is a good idea, it would be this game, don't you admit? High numbers of uncoordinated scum! Plus, my observation that you don't deserve a townread for opposing what is potentially a very threatening idea for scum is accurate.

On September 27 2013 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Man yamato is like trying to shut down discussion with his flaming and stuff. Not even trying to help people, just trying to shut them up. Let's get rid of him. ##vote yamato77

On September 27 2013 07:46 Blazinghand wrote:


Your response to anyone posting anything seems to be to swear at them and tell them to shut up. There's like no chance that's even remotely town-motivated. At this point it's just a matter of figuring out if you personally are having like a rock up your butt today, or if you're scum acting like it in an attempt to shit up the thread and hurt town activities. Seems like the latter to me.

On September 27 2013 07:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Null. If I didn't know you to be a complete jerk most of the time regardless of alignment, I'd find it suspicious too.

On September 27 2013 08:03 Grackaroni wrote:
I think the people that are vehemently against random lynches aren't against them because they think I am trying to avoid analysis. They are likely afraid of the random lynch. It is so much easier for mafia to pressure a less experienced player and push the lynch off their team and on to that player.

On September 27 2013 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I feel obliged to add: not with Palmar. Palmar's usually able to tell with pretty stunning accuracy what alignment I have. I'm talking about players like Yamato who call me scum for everything under the sun, incorrectly. Not that he's always incorrect, but....it feels that way right?

On September 27 2013 11:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
is that a scum claim?

On September 27 2013 11:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I don't approve of hosts telling dead people information, so if that was the case then I am surprised.

On September 27 2013 12:00 WaveofShadow wrote:

Thank you yamato.
Quick Q for you.
Is your response to my first post and as well your play this game all for show?
You seem to be making quite an effort to appear similar to Noire. I am well aware of how you've played in toher games and it's not like this isn't normal for you, but the sheer confidence this early straight out of another towngame (now that you've flipped) to me can't be alignment indicative because I know you are well aware of your meta.

On September 27 2013 12:05 WaveofShadow wrote:

Yamato, bravado aside, do you think this town is capable of lynching scum D1?

On September 27 2013 13:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
What is weird about yamato is that his filter reads very similar to persona, but i'm not really posting anything im observing right now. just watching really

On September 27 2013 19:27 Pandain wrote:
BH compare Yamatos filter with his previous games and tells me what you see.

Would lynch. Will lynch. Not trying to find scum. Instead posting analysis.

On September 27 2013 15:28 VayneAuthority wrote:


I have no interest in petty arguments or random bickering this game. The game is very aggressive and has little content right now, which is to be expected when there are pretty much 4 factions, 3 of which has very small numbers. You'll find out who I think is suspicious through my vote. Not sure what that last question is about. Bed time.

On September 27 2013 22:11 Oatsmaster wrote:

Why do you think policy lynching is a good idea?

On September 27 2013 22:52 Palmar wrote:
It's completely viable to have a town read at this point in the game, I have a few people I'm leaning town on myself. However it's wildly inconsistent for yamato to proclaim his townread on me, and then proceed to ignore everything I'm saying, in favor of a policy lynch with almost nothing to back it up.

I think VE is town, that's given 2 scumteams... is that strange?

On September 27 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know if Palmar is scum. What he says makes a lot of sense. I am probably going to sheep him on D1 in case i feel like he is really trying to lynch scum (regardless of his alignment).

Atm i wanna lynch WoS.
##Vote: WaveofShadow
The only thing i have found out that's really unlike to come from a townie is him shitting on town before the game hasn't even started fully. Another thing is that he is overly emo and i think he is faking it.

On September 27 2013 23:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
I wouldn't say my suspicion of you yamato is unfounded, here is his filter from persona http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425521&user=yamato77

In it we find countless one to three liners that are basically just posted to insult people, similar to this game. You also tried to push me in that game for silly reasons and no one followed you since your reasons for lynching people are terrible when you are scum. Eventually you'll try and make a big "reads" post and then eventually get lazy and stop trying as scum again, resorting to more personal attacks.

Compare that to how you played the recent TL mafia and it's not even close. If you want to prove you are town then I suggest stop posting nothing but insults, because you only do that as scum. Your town game consists of insults and analysis.

On September 28 2013 00:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm back. Some things I noticed:

1) Palmar made a point about hiro that I almost made myself, but thought twice about and decided not to make. The reason why is this: I have a slight townread on hiro protagonist based on how he's approaching this game. While it's certainly a fact that hiro hasn't provided any scumreads, he seems comfortable getting all up in people's grills. I can absolutely see Palmar's point about hiro, however, and would definitely like to see some thoughts on who hiro thinks is scum.

b) BH is DEFINITELY the hero this town deserves. Definitely.

IV) RNG Lynch is dead as far as I'm concerned. Not because there's not enough support for it (several people still haven't commented, it could feasibly get pushed through) but because no one has come up with a truly random means of arriving at a lynch and I'm too lazy to figure it out myself. We should already have a system by now, and we'd need to arrive at a name relatively soon in order to ensure that everyone who claimed to support the idea has time to follow through and vote for the person or not.

Finally)


Since when did a lynch become bad because people talked about it too much? And since when did VA refuse to play the game?

##Vote: yamato77

yamato77 is scum, because he's clearly not even trying to find scum. His early appeal to Palmar was ridiculous...he said that if they were both town they'd find scum together - last time they were both town they tunneled each other incessantly and one of them got lynched. He's full of shit and needs to die today.

On September 28 2013 00:52 VisceraEyes wrote:

Okay, what about the fact that he said "Grack has been talked about too much for me to lynch"

Does that make sense at all? Like at all? Isn't yamato supposed to be...you know...GOOD if he's town?

On September 28 2013 01:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Koshi's thought process is much more free-flowing in Golden Sun, he accuses S&B at the very start but then he moves on and comments on everyone else in the game. Here his posting is more held-back. He forced a scum read on me early game and is just sticking to it not commenting as much on other people. He is asking me these useless questions. He is better than this when he is town. Koshi is scum.

On September 28 2013 03:30 FirmTofu wrote:
##vote: Koshi
I'm keeping my word here. BH's solution to the RNG problem is quite inventive. I will double check if it was truly random, but if it was I'm sticking with Koshi.

30% are pretty good odds.

BH, why aren't you voting Koshi?

On September 28 2013 05:27 Pandain wrote:
He also hasn't responded by being aggressive to those who accuse him, which is something he usually does as town. Note he thought BH had weak reasoning, wouldn't this be suspicious to Yamato? Or does he not want to push him.

On September 28 2013 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey yamato, why is WoS town and what do you think of SnB's post about Palmar?

On September 28 2013 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Being a shithead when there is no reason to be a shithead and emoing about "rolling town because TL towns so bad" isa townie thingy to do at the start of the game?

On September 28 2013 06:10 Blazinghand wrote:
your statements and of questions are of no relevance to me yamato

On September 28 2013 06:10 Grackaroni wrote:
I have to ask, I expected you to be more angry right now about some people voting for Koshi due to RNG.

On September 28 2013 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I've got plenty of good places for my vote to go if this doesn't work out. Don't you worry your pretty little head yamato.

On September 28 2013 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like BH isn't interested at all in trying to figure out peoples' alignments. He's not trying to clarify peoples' stances or get information from people. All he's interested in is attempting to appear contributory.

On September 28 2013 06:22 Blazinghand wrote:
like imo this weird posturing from yamato just makes him look scummier. I think he's trying to feel for some kind of wagon on me, or maybe discredit me? Like, if he really thinks I'm scum, why wouldn't he just vote me? yamato is very aggressive and a town yamato wouldn't hesitate.

On September 28 2013 06:24 Blazinghand wrote:

so are you saying i'm town or what

On September 28 2013 06:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


Reading from work and i feel the need to +1 this.

On September 28 2013 06:49 VisceraEyes wrote:

Fuck yeah you did.

Tell me a story about strongandbig yamato.

On September 28 2013 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote:

What did you like about the post in general? You've stated a town read on Palmar, has that changed with SnB's observations? Which if so?

On September 28 2013 08:18 VisceraEyes wrote:

So you liked that entire post of nothingness based on an obvious observation that had nothing to do with SnB's post?

Noted.

On September 28 2013 08:25 VisceraEyes wrote:

I'm just trying to understand - you said the post was good, but then you mention nothing in the post that you like about it...even after I asked you specifically what you like about it.

Whatever yourself man. I'm just playin mafia.

On September 28 2013 18:21 Oatsmaster wrote:

OH REALLY?
So why are you the second wagon?

On October 12 2013 14:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
During the last 2 games i have realized i should never read what BH posts at all.