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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 01 2013 20:57 GMT
#2160
you guys are worried for nothing. there could be like 3-4 deaths tonight, get ready for the party
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 01 2013 21:01 GMT
#2163
remember that as town in this game we don't lose until we are like actually out of the game. We are basically a massive scumteam unless one of the teams fully dies off. We can mislynch quite a bit.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 01 2013 21:17 GMT
#2173
probably goes without saying but cops should be looking to precision shot FT tonight and FT should not use his vest if town
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 01 2013 21:44 GMT
#2178
well isn't that cute. I think the only person that still plays somewhat from my first game is Ace. Infundibulum was going to play but backed out...
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 00:39 GMT
#2208
while you're around austin, I don't really understand your case. It just reads like a documentary. We know what happened; but you don't seem to really draw any conclusions from it. Instead of telling us how any of that makes me scummy in context you are content to just comment on what happened.

The first part I speculate...ok that's what I do lol. I have speculated in half my filter, why that post specifically?

The second part is me making a legitimate mistake and getting too excited about finding something incriminating. I take a step back and realize it fits HP's nature. Not even remotely scummy. Won't ever come back to this point.

The third part is really just nitpicking, I don't have a problem with Mr.CC yet so I don't feel the need to talk to him. By the same token you think mr.CC is scummy too for not talking to me then right? It's a bad argument as you can see.

So let's talk about the first part then.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 00:48 GMT
#2215
I see your thought process and I now know why you think im scum every game. Not much else to say. That's what I do. I don't explain or push my reads but I play a very defensive style where I just make sure I don't get lynched as town. You can be like wave and ad hom attack me for it or you can simply ignore me, I don't really mind either way
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 00:53 GMT
#2219
On October 02 2013 09:51 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
I see your thought process and I now know why you think im scum every game. Not much else to say. That's what I do. I don't explain or push my reads but I play a very defensive style where I just make sure I don't get lynched as town. You can be like wave and ad hom attack me for it or you can simply ignore me, I don't really mind either way
Stupidity/random questions/paint pictures > ad homs.

I actually had a bit I deleted about how you say you don't like to push your lynches/reads, and that's fine, but I feel like this is a separate matter.

This is just about presenting a full thought, or presenting any sort of read. That post is entirely air, imo (anyone else, feel free to weigh in here). I have found you scummy in games you've presented reads, yeah, but I don't think you can claim that the post about who might have killed BH is a read or something like that.



I actually have laid out 3 pretty concise reads. my top 3 lynch targets right now are pandain, grackaroni, and palmar. You can see why I am not wasting my breath atm until lategame when people are actually ready to play
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 00:57 GMT
#2222
On October 02 2013 09:55 Pandain wrote:
Vayne do you still believe this:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
nobody should need convincing he is scum after he said he loved that case by CR that I destroyed. Didn't even give any reasons because he couldn't. Just awful.



yes. go back and read that exchange and if you still think CR actually came out looking good from that then you need to be lynched.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 01:00 GMT
#2227
On October 02 2013 10:00 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:55 Pandain wrote:
Vayne do you still believe this:
On October 02 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
nobody should need convincing he is scum after he said he loved that case by CR that I destroyed. Didn't even give any reasons because he couldn't. Just awful.



yes. go back and read that exchange and if you still think CR actually came out looking good from that then you need to be lynched.


I just find it surprising that if you believe I am so certain scum you aren't lynching me.




I voted for you so you should go read the thread now, see you then
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 01:01 GMT
#2228
On October 02 2013 09:58 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:51 austinmcc wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
I see your thought process and I now know why you think im scum every game. Not much else to say. That's what I do. I don't explain or push my reads but I play a very defensive style where I just make sure I don't get lynched as town. You can be like wave and ad hom attack me for it or you can simply ignore me, I don't really mind either way
Stupidity/random questions/paint pictures > ad homs.

I actually had a bit I deleted about how you say you don't like to push your lynches/reads, and that's fine, but I feel like this is a separate matter.

This is just about presenting a full thought, or presenting any sort of read. That post is entirely air, imo (anyone else, feel free to weigh in here). I have found you scummy in games you've presented reads, yeah, but I don't think you can claim that the post about who might have killed BH is a read or something like that.



I actually have laid out 3 pretty concise reads. my top 3 lynch targets right now are pandain, grackaroni, and palmar. You can see why I am not wasting my breath atm until lategame when people are actually ready to play
I have no problem with that, if you actually want to play in that matter.

But, to me, that's a reason to be suspicious/scummy on you.

Because if you want to present concise reads and not waste your breath, then that post about how 1/4 of the thread might have killed BH is not a concise read and IS a waste of breath. Heck, that's why it sticks out, because it appears to be exactly the sort of thing you say you don't care about, but you posted it anyway. Reads like a post made for activity's sake/trying to look like you're analyzing something.


could you elaborate on how having 3 clear scum reads seems like waffling to you?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 01:03 GMT
#2229
On October 02 2013 09:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:51 austinmcc wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
I see your thought process and I now know why you think im scum every game. Not much else to say. That's what I do. I don't explain or push my reads but I play a very defensive style where I just make sure I don't get lynched as town. You can be like wave and ad hom attack me for it or you can simply ignore me, I don't really mind either way
Stupidity/random questions/paint pictures > ad homs.

I actually had a bit I deleted about how you say you don't like to push your lynches/reads, and that's fine, but I feel like this is a separate matter.

This is just about presenting a full thought, or presenting any sort of read. That post is entirely air, imo (anyone else, feel free to weigh in here). I have found you scummy in games you've presented reads, yeah, but I don't think you can claim that the post about who might have killed BH is a read or something like that.



I actually have laid out 3 pretty concise reads. my top 3 lynch targets right now are pandain, grackaroni, and palmar. You can see why I am not wasting my breath atm until lategame when people are actually ready to play

No ad homs but indirectly insults everyone else in the game.
Ugh every post you make baits me.


Deservedly so. When people respond to my reads with "loL baD, wronG br0" then you can't expect to be complimented?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 01:05 GMT
#2231
On October 02 2013 10:04 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 10:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 02 2013 10:00 Pandain wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:55 Pandain wrote:
Vayne do you still believe this:
On October 02 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
nobody should need convincing he is scum after he said he loved that case by CR that I destroyed. Didn't even give any reasons because he couldn't. Just awful.



yes. go back and read that exchange and if you still think CR actually came out looking good from that then you need to be lynched.


I just find it surprising that if you believe I am so certain scum you aren't lynching me.




I voted for you so you should go read the thread now, see you then


I thought you unvoted me for SP.


I did as you weren't a viable lynch and shaiopi martyred. My #1 intolerance
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 01:09 GMT
#2237
On October 02 2013 10:06 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 10:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:58 austinmcc wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:51 austinmcc wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
I see your thought process and I now know why you think im scum every game. Not much else to say. That's what I do. I don't explain or push my reads but I play a very defensive style where I just make sure I don't get lynched as town. You can be like wave and ad hom attack me for it or you can simply ignore me, I don't really mind either way
Stupidity/random questions/paint pictures > ad homs.

I actually had a bit I deleted about how you say you don't like to push your lynches/reads, and that's fine, but I feel like this is a separate matter.

This is just about presenting a full thought, or presenting any sort of read. That post is entirely air, imo (anyone else, feel free to weigh in here). I have found you scummy in games you've presented reads, yeah, but I don't think you can claim that the post about who might have killed BH is a read or something like that.



I actually have laid out 3 pretty concise reads. my top 3 lynch targets right now are pandain, grackaroni, and palmar. You can see why I am not wasting my breath atm until lategame when people are actually ready to play
I have no problem with that, if you actually want to play in that matter.

But, to me, that's a reason to be suspicious/scummy on you.

Because if you want to present concise reads and not waste your breath, then that post about how 1/4 of the thread might have killed BH is not a concise read and IS a waste of breath. Heck, that's why it sticks out, because it appears to be exactly the sort of thing you say you don't care about, but you posted it anyway. Reads like a post made for activity's sake/trying to look like you're analyzing something.


could you elaborate on how having 3 clear scum reads seems like waffling to you?
I think if you have 3 clear scum reads, that is sexy and good.

However, THIS post is NOT 3 clear scum reads:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 07:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
So I have no idea why anyone shot BH or what this means. The only people that trusted him even remotely were pandain, grack, and palmar. Everybody else tried to throw suspicion on him or said he was scummy. He died though so we know it wasn't a cop kill. Sooo wtf is going on here.

Palmar/Pandain probably come off looking the worst from this since palmar gave him a town read and visa versa and pandain is trying to lynch FT through his dead body. Grack has some sort of boner for BH where he looks up to him so that is a potential fear kill.

No need to reply to this post, I won't read it

And this is the post that I keep coming back to and having trouble with. I'm specifically talking about that single post, and you don't present those people as clear scumreads there, imo.

(Side note: When I want to find that post, I open your full filter and do a search for the word boner, because I know it appears in that post and no others.....)

If you're using "these people interacted with BH" as part of thinking all three of those people are scum, then I also find that wonky, as it's unlikely they all got together and shot BH.


No that really is only a minor point in my full read on them. It's complicated and rest assured I read over all filters and searched for a few keywords here and there (not boner). If you progress past that post you can see how that post turns into concrete scum reads on the 3 of them.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 01:10 GMT
#2240
On October 02 2013 10:06 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 10:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 02 2013 10:04 Pandain wrote:
On October 02 2013 10:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 02 2013 10:00 Pandain wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:55 Pandain wrote:
Vayne do you still believe this:
On October 02 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
nobody should need convincing he is scum after he said he loved that case by CR that I destroyed. Didn't even give any reasons because he couldn't. Just awful.



yes. go back and read that exchange and if you still think CR actually came out looking good from that then you need to be lynched.


I just find it surprising that if you believe I am so certain scum you aren't lynching me.




I voted for you so you should go read the thread now, see you then


I thought you unvoted me for SP.


I did as you weren't a viable lynch and shaiopi martyred. My #1 intolerance

You unvoted me several hours ago, I still could have been a lynch. From what I understand many people suspect me.


look if you're not even going to follow the thread (I at least give people that courtesy) then we have nothing to discuss here. I unvoted you 5 minutes before the deadline. We're done here.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 01:12 GMT
#2241
On October 02 2013 10:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
Martyring hasn't been a scumtell since...I dunno.
Can't even think of the last game where a scum martyred Maybe Bluelightz---I think DrH did.
Other than that, always townies. Terrible terrible townies.


Malongo, titanic

Firmtofu, persona

off the top of my head. probably more but im not actually going to look. town or scum we don't need people that would rather give excuses then play.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 01:22 GMT
#2248
man there's so many cool things you can do as cops this game that could break the game if you play together, we are so reliant on them. I really hope our cops aren't 2 scrubs.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 01:23 GMT
#2250
knowing oats he is one of the cops and isn't sending in night actions the entire game
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 01:28 GMT
#2256
one example I have ( gonna try and help our cops out here)

1 of the cops uses precision shot.

the other walkie talkies the person shot at. If they are town you add another person to your town circle, if they are scum...well they are dead.

I can post more if anyone thinks this isn't retarded.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 01:30 GMT
#2258
On October 02 2013 10:28 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 10:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 02 2013 10:26 austinmcc wrote:
And yet you won't even pose a simple query in the form of a hotdog order.

He might be scum just for that.
The sad thing is I legitimately find that scummy. Whenever I've asked random dumb questions to people, town has responded and scum have ducked them/said they don't understand/not responded. It's 2/2 on catching scum even though it's not supposed to, never should, and I don't understand.

If WoS is scum, I might actually have to put some credence in reads based on stupid crap, and I'm not sure I'm ready for that world yet.


welcome to the dark side

most of my scum reads are based on useless and irrelevant shit that I am too embarrassed to even publish
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 02 2013 01:32 GMT
#2263
On October 02 2013 10:30 Grackaroni wrote:
I think some bus driving may be in order. I don't suggest Walkie Talkie, probably not worth it unless it's super cheap.


having a mason circle is extremely powerful especially in a game of this size. Even though you can only PM with 1 person in each cycle, you can let them know of the other townies. very very strong if used properly
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