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On September 28 2013 03:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hai Rayn.
Why didn't you tear up my post?
Because i don't have to. It's just wrong.
What do you think of what i just said about FT?
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On September 28 2013 03:52 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 03:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Oops, got cut, second last. Thi On September 28 2013 03:38 FirmTofu wrote:On September 28 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
And where is Rayn? Absent and defending me. Everytime that's happened, he's been scum. s one: Pretty sure you pushed FT lynch in GoT. Don't remember any other games you flipped scum in. So yeah. FT full of shit.
FT is like the easiest lynch to push if you are scum. Especially on D1. Yes, he's full of shit.
town or scum full of shit? smells like scum FT again to me.
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On September 28 2013 02:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Epiphany: Rayn is scum. He is pushing me really strongly off the bat and entering his shit-rayn tunnel-mode. He is capable of this as both town and scum. Why does this make him scum? He knows he can get me lynched.When we were both town in Persona he pushed me relentlessly and got me lynched D1 (I played a shit game and probs deserved it but whatever). I didn't go down without a fight and much of that first day was us calling each other scum---and yet he won in the end with spam and yelling and whatnot as Rayn is wont to do. Rayn's original reasoning outside of this case on me that game is because I was being belligerent and refusing to address him, 'even though he gave me chances.' He gave me a few opportunities to deal with him but I didn't want to bother, so he got me lynched. He learned his lesson about this supposedly after the game and so I believe as town he wouldn't attempt this sort of a push again because of how detrimental it would be to the atmosphere and to the town in general. In this game yes I am being belligerent once again but I am also being transparent and actively engaging everyone. Scum Rayn has picked out that he can try and get me lynched based on the belligerence and perceived 'emo-ness' of my posting thus far despite the fact that I am playing fundamentally differently to Persona, and ultimately way more towny. Given the chance, he may very well succeed as overall Rayn is pretty damn good at pushing lynches. He is taking the 'safe' route here---something he knows he can get done and he won't look overly bad when I do flip town because not only do some other people suspect me atm, but it is something a town Rayn 'would' do. Rayn and Vayne, the rhyming scum.(Not necessarily on same team though  )
In short.
The 4 Persona game has nothing to do with this game.
I am not tunneling you. I am not shutting everyone down and yelling everyone to vote for you.
That's basically it.
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Also you are not even defending yourself WoS. Your post has nothing to do with defending yourself. You did something that's really unlike tocome from town!WoS because as town you are really good player. As scum you are too, but what you did really is scummy and inexusable if you are town.
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This whole randomlynch thing is and has been stupid throughout the game. Stop it, we are not random lynching.
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On September 28 2013 04:10 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This whole randomlynch thing is and has been stupid throughout the game. Stop it, we are not random lynching. koshi still scum though
That's another thing. I don't agree though.
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I could lynch FT too. This game is cool because as town you can actually lynch your scumread's target.
That's why i said i will probably sheep Palmar at the end of the day.
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On September 28 2013 04:13 Koshi wrote:
Let's imagine a Grack/FT scumteam and you guys rng lynch me.
That would be epic.
Let's imagine you make some actual analysis soon ok?
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On September 28 2013 04:19 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 23:30 Palmar wrote:On September 27 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know if Palmar is scum. What he says makes a lot of sense. I am probably going to sheep him on D1 in case i feel like he is really trying to lynch scum (regardless of his alignment). Given this, I really don't understand this: On September 27 2013 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How can yamato even say you are town Palmar?
You wouldn't be asking this question unless you thought there was something fishy about yamato's townread on me. But because what I'm saying makes sense, according to yourself, I would think that grounds enough for thinking I'm town. Do you think yamato should have further reservations? Do you think it's suspicious that he doesn't? i dont like this post. rayn clearly indicated that palmar making sense was not alignment indicative. but palmar is trying to twist/recast that reasoning into rayn having had a townread on him. either intentional, in which case scummy, or unintentional, in which case this really doesn't fit with the brooks-no-nonsense-or-illogicalness palmar we know and love. then there's another thing. Palmar is voting for yamato right now, but he's made cases for why at least two other people (grack and hiro) are actively scummy. (his "pattern finding"). whereas he's said pretty much nothing about yamato. what's the point of putting emphasis on pattern finding if you're not going to actually use it to kill scum. Also, I think one thing scum players love to do is give advice and not follow it: Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 00:05 Palmar wrote:On September 27 2013 23:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 27 2013 23:47 Palmar wrote:On September 27 2013 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 27 2013 23:30 Palmar wrote:On September 27 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know if Palmar is scum. What he says makes a lot of sense. I am probably going to sheep him on D1 in case i feel like he is really trying to lynch scum (regardless of his alignment). Given this, I really don't understand this: On September 27 2013 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How can yamato even say you are town Palmar?
You wouldn't be asking this question unless you thought there was something fishy about yamato's townread on me. But because what I'm saying makes sense, according to yourself, I would think that grounds enough for thinking I'm town. Do you think yamato should have further reservations? Do you think it's suspicious that he doesn't? Yes i think it's suspicious that he declareas you town. In this game making sense in a townie way does not necessarily mean you are town, you might just be attacking another scumteam. yamato should know that your posting this far does not make you town. On September 27 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know if Palmar is scum. What he says makes a lot of sense. I am probably going to sheep him on D1 in case i feel like he is really trying to lynch scum (regardless of his alignment).
Atm i wanna lynch WoS.
##Vote: WaveofShadow
The only thing i have found out that's really unlike to come from a townie is him shitting on town before the game hasn't even started fully. Another thing is that he is overly emo and i think he is faking it. The bolded sentences could be considered inconsistent, especially in the light that your suspicion on WoS came pretty much out of the blue while in the middle of an entirely different discussion. For someone who's willing to throw Oats a townread for basically nothing but being an asshole, I find it very surprising that you have a problem with yamato giving me a townread for making sense. That, too, seems inconsistent. That's basically my point regarding Oats. There is a difference in his town and scum play. It has nothing to do with if he is making sense or not. He basically is an asshole as town. He makes a lot more sense as scum and he is more careful. That does not apply to you, or me, or BH for example. What you have said so far does not make you town. Whatever you do on D1, even if you lynch scum, does not make you town. You know it and yamato should know it too. That's what's wrong in his read on you. What's wrong with my case on WoS? Are you saying i am not allowed to make a case on him when i am discussing something different? Why does the timing of my case make me scum? Was i supposed to make it in my first post, why? Whatever. Re: WoS case. Did you unlearn how to make and push cases since we last played together? If you throw a random vote with little reasoning or an unconvincing case behind it in the middle of something else going on, it's so pointless you might as well not do it.And I didn't say you were scum. I said you were inconsistent. This could be due to numerous other reasons, bad, lazy, don't care etc. Are you scum? Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 00:44 Palmar wrote:
Oh VE is back, sweet, I don't have to do anything then.
We killing yamato? I'm in.
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##Vote yamato77 And the last thing: Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 05:24 Palmar wrote:
I'm member of one of the mafia teams. I'm requesting one person from the other team PM me, or if that's not allowed, just claim in the thread so we can work together. Who else thinks it's weird that palmar posted this, then didn't say anything in terms of analysis of what came out of it? Like, someone even asked him to say something about vayne based on it, and he didn't mention it at all. My impression of palmar from his opening shenanigans in other games is that he likes to get something from them. When he proposes a random lynch or other stupid policy, he has a very specific set of goals in mind as town for information he wants to get from the shenanigans and peoples' reactions to them. This game, I don't see that. Yes, I do think palmar is cocky enough to claim scum as scum.
I think you are totally right in this post.
On the other hand, we don't need to lynch Palmar on D1, even if he is scum. He can net us more scum, and the other scumteam needs to shoot him if me make him do so. :D
That's basically what i am trying to do.
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On September 28 2013 04:23 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2013 04:19 strongandbig wrote:On September 27 2013 23:30 Palmar wrote:On September 27 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know if Palmar is scum. What he says makes a lot of sense. I am probably going to sheep him on D1 in case i feel like he is really trying to lynch scum (regardless of his alignment). Given this, I really don't understand this: On September 27 2013 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How can yamato even say you are town Palmar?
You wouldn't be asking this question unless you thought there was something fishy about yamato's townread on me. But because what I'm saying makes sense, according to yourself, I would think that grounds enough for thinking I'm town. Do you think yamato should have further reservations? Do you think it's suspicious that he doesn't? i dont like this post. rayn clearly indicated that palmar making sense was not alignment indicative. but palmar is trying to twist/recast that reasoning into rayn having had a townread on him. either intentional, in which case scummy, or unintentional, in which case this really doesn't fit with the brooks-no-nonsense-or-illogicalness palmar we know and love. then there's another thing. Palmar is voting for yamato right now, but he's made cases for why at least two other people (grack and hiro) are actively scummy. (his "pattern finding"). whereas he's said pretty much nothing about yamato. what's the point of putting emphasis on pattern finding if you're not going to actually use it to kill scum. Also, I think one thing scum players love to do is give advice and not follow it: On September 28 2013 00:05 Palmar wrote:On September 27 2013 23:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 27 2013 23:47 Palmar wrote:On September 27 2013 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 27 2013 23:30 Palmar wrote:On September 27 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know if Palmar is scum. What he says makes a lot of sense. I am probably going to sheep him on D1 in case i feel like he is really trying to lynch scum (regardless of his alignment). Given this, I really don't understand this: On September 27 2013 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How can yamato even say you are town Palmar?
You wouldn't be asking this question unless you thought there was something fishy about yamato's townread on me. But because what I'm saying makes sense, according to yourself, I would think that grounds enough for thinking I'm town. Do you think yamato should have further reservations? Do you think it's suspicious that he doesn't? Yes i think it's suspicious that he declareas you town. In this game making sense in a townie way does not necessarily mean you are town, you might just be attacking another scumteam. yamato should know that your posting this far does not make you town. On September 27 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know if Palmar is scum. What he says makes a lot of sense. I am probably going to sheep him on D1 in case i feel like he is really trying to lynch scum (regardless of his alignment).
Atm i wanna lynch WoS.
##Vote: WaveofShadow
The only thing i have found out that's really unlike to come from a townie is him shitting on town before the game hasn't even started fully. Another thing is that he is overly emo and i think he is faking it. The bolded sentences could be considered inconsistent, especially in the light that your suspicion on WoS came pretty much out of the blue while in the middle of an entirely different discussion. For someone who's willing to throw Oats a townread for basically nothing but being an asshole, I find it very surprising that you have a problem with yamato giving me a townread for making sense. That, too, seems inconsistent. That's basically my point regarding Oats. There is a difference in his town and scum play. It has nothing to do with if he is making sense or not. He basically is an asshole as town. He makes a lot more sense as scum and he is more careful. That does not apply to you, or me, or BH for example. What you have said so far does not make you town. Whatever you do on D1, even if you lynch scum, does not make you town. You know it and yamato should know it too. That's what's wrong in his read on you. What's wrong with my case on WoS? Are you saying i am not allowed to make a case on him when i am discussing something different? Why does the timing of my case make me scum? Was i supposed to make it in my first post, why? Whatever. Re: WoS case. Did you unlearn how to make and push cases since we last played together? If you throw a random vote with little reasoning or an unconvincing case behind it in the middle of something else going on, it's so pointless you might as well not do it.And I didn't say you were scum. I said you were inconsistent. This could be due to numerous other reasons, bad, lazy, don't care etc. Are you scum? On September 28 2013 00:44 Palmar wrote:
Oh VE is back, sweet, I don't have to do anything then.
We killing yamato? I'm in.
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##Vote yamato77 And the last thing: On September 27 2013 05:24 Palmar wrote:
I'm member of one of the mafia teams. I'm requesting one person from the other team PM me, or if that's not allowed, just claim in the thread so we can work together. Who else thinks it's weird that palmar posted this, then didn't say anything in terms of analysis of what came out of it? Like, someone even asked him to say something about vayne based on it, and he didn't mention it at all. My impression of palmar from his opening shenanigans in other games is that he likes to get something from them. When he proposes a random lynch or other stupid policy, he has a very specific set of goals in mind as town for information he wants to get from the shenanigans and peoples' reactions to them. This game, I don't see that. Yes, I do think palmar is cocky enough to claim scum as scum. I think you are totally right in this post. On the other hand, we don't need to lynch Palmar on D1, even if he is scum. He can net us more scum, and the other scumteam needs to shoot him if me make him do so. :D That's basically what i am trying to do. um wat you think he's scum but you don't want to kill him? ....
I am not sure if he is scum or not. I will lynch him if i think he is definitely scum.
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On September 28 2013 04:22 strongandbig wrote:
##vote: palmar for now. when's deadline again? 02:00 GMT (+00:00)?
We got 23,5h.
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Pandain do you have any sort of read on WoS/Palmar?
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I can join the experiment. Only because it's Koshi. :D
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Hey yamato, why is WoS town and what do you think of SnB's post about Palmar?
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On September 28 2013 05:54 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know if Palmar is scum. What he says makes a lot of sense. I am probably going to sheep him on D1 in case i feel like he is really trying to lynch scum (regardless of his alignment).
Atm i wanna lynch WoS.
##Vote: WaveofShadow
The only thing i have found out that's really unlike to come from a townie is him shitting on town before the game hasn't even started fully. Another thing is that he is overly emo and i think he is faking it. This post is horrible. Saying WoS is being a shithead and voting him for it are two different things. Rayn is worthy of a hard look for this shit.
Being a shithead when there is no reason to be a shithead and emoing about "rolling town because TL towns so bad" isa townie thingy to do at the start of the game?
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This game is so stupid atm.
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Maybe seal it with a vote hiro?
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Like this randomlynch thing gives somehow people permission to call everyone out for shitty reasons and then vote for Koshi.
See you guys tomorrow.
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I am curious hiro. How do you ahve a townread on Pandabearbuy and Oats?
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On September 28 2013 17:22 hiro protagonist wrote:
There actions. Panda put an effort into a real case. A convincing one at that. Oats has been calling people out on there bullshit all game long. Do you have conflicting views in this regard? More importantly do you have someone you want to lynch? You haven't voted yet ether.
I agree Pandain put effort into his case. He is not scum with yamato, i give you that. I don't see anything that makes him town though. Oats i agree with you on + i have my own reasons to think he is town.
I have voted.
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