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On September 27 2013 07:52 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 07:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Null. If I didn't know you to be a complete jerk most of the time regardless of alignment, I'd find it suspicious too. that's a singular reason among the glut of BH calling me mafia for everything I'm doing (and not doing). And btw it's actually a town tell.
Like here's what guys like you and geript don't understand, and what Palmar likes to ignore because he can.
Being a jerk to someone is going to cause them to act more suspiciously TO YOU regardless of their actual alignment. People don't like people being a jerk to them, and they clam up and don't talk to people who ARE a jerk to them, in general.
It's literally counter-productive to your stated aim of finding scum...being a jerk to someone makes it so that you CANNOT READ them, in most cases. At least that's what I believe. I could be wrong, but that's been my experience.
Now, I'll admit that it's unfair for BH to say that's ALL you've been doing (note my distinct lack of vote on you now). But I'll also say that it's unfair of you to expect BH to just assume that it means you're town when you, in your defense, say "Hey it's a towntell bra".
That means that you're aware of that tell and can exploit it as scum. Don't be an idiot Yamato.
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On September 27 2013 08:03 Grackaroni wrote:
I think the people that are vehemently against random lynches aren't against them because they think I am trying to avoid analysis. They are likely afraid of the random lynch. It is so much easier for mafia to pressure a less experienced player and push the lynch off their team and on to that player.
Then why isn't your vote on someone who has opposed your idea out of hand?
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On September 27 2013 08:08 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 08:03 Grackaroni wrote:
I think the people that are vehemently against random lynches aren't against them because they think I am trying to avoid analysis. They are likely afraid of the random lynch. It is so much easier for mafia to pressure a less experienced player and push the lynch off their team and on to that player. I like how you're putting words in my mouth and assuming town never lynches scum D1. It's because of players like you that townies get lynched. Anyway, I'm actually off.
Are you not doing the bolded with the italicized?
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On September 27 2013 08:19 Palmar wrote:
Btw, Vivax logic tells us we should lynch people who have less than X amount of posts in the thread so far. Vivax logic is some of the best logic I've encountered on TL Mafia.
I'll read this mess tomorrow
Boo.
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I'm not sure what I'm looking for here, he didn't react at all. What specifically makes you think that we're seeing mafia here rather than townie who is slightly more comfortable reading you by virtue of having just completed a game with you?
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On September 27 2013 08:56 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 08:52 Palmar wrote:
Grack could be scum, there is not enough evidence yet though. But he seems eager enough to create it so it's not really a problem.
Hey Grack, read through yamato's posts and tell me if he's scum or town and why. hahaha you accuse me every single game you cannot read me for shit. How about you go and read through Yamato's posts and tell me.
What I find interesting about this post is that you're only interested in discrediting him when he literally says "there's not enough evidence yet". I find this reaction to be suspicious.
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On September 27 2013 09:22 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 08:59 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 27 2013 08:56 Grackaroni wrote:On September 27 2013 08:52 Palmar wrote:
Grack could be scum, there is not enough evidence yet though. But he seems eager enough to create it so it's not really a problem.
Hey Grack, read through yamato's posts and tell me if he's scum or town and why. hahaha you accuse me every single game you cannot read me for shit. How about you go and read through Yamato's posts and tell me. What I find interesting about this post is that you're only interested in discrediting him when he literally says "there's not enough evidence yet". I find this reaction to be suspicious. It has to do with my history with Palmar. I frequently find myself as his first scum read and it annoys me.
Yeah well, such sentiment I can fully identify with.
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I feel obliged to add: not with Palmar. Palmar's usually able to tell with pretty stunning accuracy what alignment I have. I'm talking about players like Yamato who call me scum for everything under the sun, incorrectly. Not that he's always incorrect, but....it feels that way right?
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I know I'm shocked - and slightly suspicious. 
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Agreed. Regardless of how it was meant, the sentiment is the same: you point out things scum do, they're things you're not doing....or point out things scum won't do, they're things you're doing. Not that only scum defend themselves in this way, it's just worth mentioning the frequency with which it's happening.
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Where did Koshi amble off to?
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I don't like it, but I'm interested to hear what he has to say when more has happened.
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I still like the idea, and I don't understand why you think it's dead. Way more than half the game hasn't even posted.
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MY BODY IS READY WAVE!!!
MY BODY IS READY!!
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Defeatist whiney bullshit aside, I'm taking that as a vote for RNG lynch.
I consider this a real topic of discussion now and want everyone to assent or deny lynching via RNG.
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On September 27 2013 12:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Defeatist whiney bullshit aside, I'm taking that as a vote for RNG lynch.
I consider this a real topic of discussion now and want everyone to assent or deny lynching via RNG.
With reasoning. Obviously.
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On September 27 2013 12:52 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 12:49 yamato77 wrote:
1) Palmar is exceedingly good as town on D1. Like, really good. Lynches scum a lot. If he and I are town together, we can find a mafia.
Whats your read on Palmar?
ANSWER THIS YAMATO YOU PUSSY
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On September 27 2013 14:36 Pandain wrote:
Wow so ignored.
I've been watching everything you're doing with great interest, you haven't been ignored at all.
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I want to know why people find Grack scum instead of just bad or wrong or aggravating. And I would like more people's opinions on lynching via RNG.
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On September 27 2013 15:38 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 15:36 Grackaroni wrote:On September 27 2013 15:18 FirmTofu wrote:
Ok, my first impressions are that Yamato, WoS, and VE look super town. Grack is probably scum. His posting is terrible.
I've never played a legit game with BH or Palmar, so I can't read them yet. Thanks for the detailed explanations. Care to explain? We've already discussed you quite enough. There are at least 5 other scummers out there. I'm interested in discussing as many people as possible. I'll discuss you if you end up being the #1 or #2 candidate later in the day.
So how about you explain your vote? Clearly you aren't adding to the discussion by just voting and leaving...you've given more reasoning for thinking Grack is scum and you're not even voting him!
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