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Like, that's the pinner right there. When you vote for Palmar, you say AND I QUOTE
I like s0Lstice posting more
as reasoning for not voting for him and voting for Palmar. What gets me about that reasoning is that you and he had a pretty serious back and forth regarding your case on him, and ultimately it wasn't enough for you to change your read of him...not until the next day when votes were being placed.
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AND THAT'S GG
Guys this has been a real pleasure. It's refreshing to see that towns can still put it to scum every now and again.
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Yeah, those don't look awesome in relation to solstice being mafia. And my vote stayed on solstice that day, despite not saying anything about him there. I can't make those posts look wonderful.
Look at the full game though. You see me wavering on solstice D4 and suggesting my other mafia buddy as the alternate? You see me...if my team is sacrificing solstice, letting him claim cop rather than go after cc, you see me not just cutting him and letting him go?
This all sounds like WIFOM because you think I might be mafia, but while those interactions with solstice don't look good, I DO have interactions that don't make sense if I'm the third.
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On October 10 2013 10:56 austinmcc wrote: Yeah, those don't look awesome in relation to solstice being mafia. And my vote stayed on solstice that day, despite not saying anything about him there. I can't make those posts look wonderful.
Look at the full game though. You see me wavering on solstice D4 and suggesting my other mafia buddy as the alternate? You see me...if my team is sacrificing solstice, letting him claim cop rather than go after cc, you see me not just cutting him and letting him go?
This all sounds like WIFOM because you think I might be mafia, but while those interactions with solstice don't look good, I DO have interactions that don't make sense if I'm the third. Yeah but, austin your play has been too townie for you to still be alive at this point. Your posts have been huge and you were all over s0Lstice early on. Logic dictates that you should be dead - that s0Lstice should have feared your textwalls saying he's scum and shot the shit out of you.
I mean...spin all the WIFOM you want friend. But be warned that I'm pretty well versed on the subject myself.
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He also HAD posted a good bit more by that point. When I was poking at him, he's got like...15ish total posts. Over N2, he posts some, and he was posting (and collecting votes) on D3 before I come in and vote Palmar.
The whole collecting votes but not mine thing also looks bad for me. But I do like that he's looking more active.
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On October 10 2013 11:00 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 10:56 austinmcc wrote: Yeah, those don't look awesome in relation to solstice being mafia. And my vote stayed on solstice that day, despite not saying anything about him there. I can't make those posts look wonderful.
Look at the full game though. You see me wavering on solstice D4 and suggesting my other mafia buddy as the alternate? You see me...if my team is sacrificing solstice, letting him claim cop rather than go after cc, you see me not just cutting him and letting him go?
This all sounds like WIFOM because you think I might be mafia, but while those interactions with solstice don't look good, I DO have interactions that don't make sense if I'm the third. Yeah but, austin your play has been too townie for you to still be alive at this point. Your posts have been huge and you were all over s0Lstice early on. Logic dictates that you should be dead - that s0Lstice should have feared your textwalls saying he's scum and shot the shit out of you. I mean...spin all the WIFOM you want friend. But be warned that I'm pretty well versed on the subject myself. I can't spin NOT wifom on that. Like, you don't trust me, so anything I say about my own associations is WIFOM, pretty much.
I appreciate the complement, but it turns out I'm not dead. I wasn't around yet on N1. I wasn't a factor yet by N2. By N3, koshi had already claimed cop and confirmed you and rayn. There wasn't exactly a good time for me to get shot IF scum were afraid of me, because by the time I was really poking at them they had to deal with a cop and 2 confirmed towns.
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What do you mean you "weren't a factor yet"? You were in the game and posting walls and making cases on s0Lstice!
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Also, I'm GENERALLY not a busser.
Aperture 2 I try to pull people off scumbuddy iamperfection D1, and never really talk about Hiro. In personality 2, Ver was on our team and never read his role PM, DarthPunk comes in for him on like...D3 or something and looks AWFUL. I don't even DISCUSS him, and try to keep marv and foolishness fighting with each other. I don't think I really mention half or more of my teammates that game and they all lived, so it wasn't a tiny chunk of the game.
I DID shoot some scumbros in Aperture 3, and was on alakaslam once he looked odd, and on randombum just because he was part of our plan, for me to be scummy on him but take him out at night. Off the top of my head I don't think I really give reads or put focus on other teammates though.
I got me some scum games to look at. I'm generally NOT a fan of talking about my team.
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On October 10 2013 11:09 VisceraEyes wrote: What do you mean you "weren't a factor yet"? You were in the game and posting walls and making cases on s0Lstice! In my mind, I'm not a ... big factor on N2? I DO have a case on solstice, I call him out, he wants more, I make a large post. And I call vayne out for speculation, try to get oats posting.
But I don't think me on N2 is as much a factor in the game as I become later. Not until starting to argue with Pandain about Palmar > FT/Vayne do I really feel like I'm in this game.
I can't tell you why I don't get shot N2. Maybe solstice thinks he's swayed me, because my last posts on him are:On October 02 2013 10:42 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:39 s0Lstice wrote:On October 02 2013 10:36 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 10:31 s0Lstice wrote: oh austin dearest.
scum s0lstice: is skating by with lean reads because he can't for some reason (despite not being a dumbass) make convincing fake reads town s0lstice: is skating by with lean reads because he is operating on incomplete information due to time comstraints but still feels compelled to be present and accounted for at important events (i.e. his first lynch)
again, not that I'm complaining about the time thing...but there is plenty to the town side of that and as far as I can tell you haven't made a clear case as to why one is better than the other. especially considering that I have a scum game to reference and I was in fine form in it.
you want to give hiro time to do something, and he was here from day 1. I've said I am not going to be useless all game and I meant it. If I never pull through, lynch me then. EZPZ
the truth is I have never been this inactive/useless as either alignment We can only be dearest right now if you're town  I generally play active scum and I make fake reads and play and am somewhat active. I just played a scum game where I didn't post at all D2 and then just sheeped some vote right before the lynch happened. I do not buy into people always playing the same way, so having some fine form scum games(s) doesn't mean you're town this one (especially given that replacing into a game as scum is a whole different ball game than starting as scum). Hiro has posted stuff that makes me want to get him to take stances on things he hasn't talked about. It's not just "post more", it's more "post on these specific topics" You have posted a bunch about FT, but never actually SAID anything about him. Even more than VA's WHO SHOT BH? post, your FT comments are pure air. Never substantiated, constantly mentioned, and relatively important to the game given that he was up for lynch. ALSO IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN THIS INACTIVE/USLESS AS EITHER ALIGNMENT THEN I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS WHETHER YOU WERE ACTIVE SCUM IN SOME OTHER GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME. IT DOESN'T MATTER AT AAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL. AND WHEN I'VE REPLACED IN AS SCUM I'VE BEEN INACTIVE, BUT REPLACING IN AS TOWN I USUALLY START COMING TO LIFE AFTER A BIT SO IT MAKES ME THINK EVEN MORE YOU ARE SCUM.Sorry. Find you scummy. If you're townie we can makeup after the game, but no kissing because I got hot dog stand lady breath and you don't want none of that. dude, you cited my capability as town to make good reads and good posts. thats meta. when you meta you have to provide both sides. that's why I said I haven't played like this as either alignment i.e. meta is going to be mostly useless at this point Fair (but you're still mafiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa). Care to substantiate your FT read? Or talk about something else. Right now I'm going to be generally scummy on you because of what I've seen. And I will try to convince others you're scummy. If you're town, spend time doing townie stuff and don't argue with me solely about what's already happened in this game or others. On October 02 2013 10:42 austinmcc wrote:Please  And the HAL post. Maybe he thinks I'm actually more open-minded, just concerned with his lack of involvement, and will back off if he gets more active.
Maybe just because I'm on solstice doesn't mean I'm #1 on their list. I dunno.
I can't tell you why I'm not shot. All I can say is that I don't think I was particularly involved and threatening until the point where we already had a cop and confirmed townies. I'm not on CR on D2/N2. And I'm on solstice, find him scummy, but perhaps sound like I can be swayed.
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On October 10 2013 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 05:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: This day will remain a 48-hour day. Assuming a unanimous vote the next day will be 24 hours.
WoS I will find a way to reward you in the future Yay! I don't need no Greymist points or Grokbux for the record. Rayn do me a favour and remind me of the stuff you want me to look at tomorrow evening after the lynch. I'm not going to have a whole lot of time to play until then. Regarding BH's suspicion towards me, to be completely honest I don't even remember him having a whole lot of that. I will have a look when I get the chance along with all that other stuff tomorrow.
I was actually going to name a 3P role after you in an upcoming game of [UoN]Sentinel mafia
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Meh - s0L does nothing townie between the posts you just quoted as your last to him (where, by the way, you say he's scummy and that you'll try and convince others that he's scummy, which, you don't) and the post where you vote for Palmar. Your goose is cooked austin. If I'm wrong, I whoever's left will deal with it after you flip.
For the record though, I still think you're the bomb diggity and yours have been some of the most enjoyable posts in the game.
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On October 10 2013 11:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Meh - s0L does nothing townie between the posts you just quoted as your last to him (where, by the way, you say he's scummy and that you'll try and convince others that he's scummy, which, you don't) and the post where you vote for Palmar. Your goose is cooked austin. If I'm wrong, I whoever's left will deal with it after you flip.
For the record though, I still think you're the bomb diggity and yours have been some of the most enjoyable posts in the game. My goose is entirely uncooked, and if you cook it, you'll be goose-sorry.
The thing he does that's townie is actually POST and be somewhat involved. It ain't the towniest thing ever, I agree, but look at why I'm scummy on him. We're both replacements, I feel guilty and want to get involved, he doesn't seem to. My entire suspicion rests on low posts/low involvement, which him posting alleviates somewhat.
Have you found the source of this, VE?On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.
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On October 06 2013 12:39 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:34 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 12:32 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote: I dunno man, I've done some counterclaiming in my time but there are so many holes and farfetched fabrications in here. If you were really the cop you would honestly be able to prove it pretty easily imo.
I don't think I've ever seen a counterclaim fail from the person who is telling the truth and you look like you're going to fail. That's because your mind is already made up. Also, this isn't a typical counter-claim, we haven't talked about Koshi yet. Like I said earlier, cool your tits. Talk about it now. Like right now. You don't get time to try and come up with shit. Short version. Right now. Again, I don't have a fucking clue how to play blue. I don't really know how to act, my importance to town, and all that. I'm saying this not because I'm complaining, but because it should explain to you the weirdness of this. I didn't counter claim Koshi because I ended up thinking that he was town fake claiming to protect me. It really boils down to that. I can actually believe that somewhat. Now onto your grand plan to catch the scumteam. Go. It's not that difficult really. I don't have to do much except act like scum. Do you disagree that the scum teams should be highly interested in coordinating at this time? I wanted to capitalize on that and act through coordinating night hits for the future as well as possible mislynches/votes. It wouldn't take much to get the other scum members, and if he is the 1, then hey at least theres 1 confirmed scum. I assumed it was from posts like this. There was another where he was like 'hmmmz I wonder if the scumteams have figured each other out yet'
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that post is 12 hours after cheese's post
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Look at only the posts before please
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On October 03 2013 04:49 s0Lstice wrote: random but im wondering if the scum teams have privately figured eachother out yet
On October 03 2013 08:34 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 08:29 Pandain wrote: They don't have to be they could be on different teams A question for you. If you were scum, how would you treat the other scum team? Those do anything for ya?
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The first one does somewhat. There's no discussion of them "getting in contact" anywhere though.
Cheese doesn't say solstice talking about the mafia teams figuring out/addressing the other team. He says "getting in contact."
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What are you getting at? This is something you've brought up before and I'm curious to know where it's going.
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On October 10 2013 11:32 VisceraEyes wrote: What are you getting at? This is something you've brought up before and I'm curious to know where it's going. It bugs me, and it smells like a "maybe something went wrong/maybe he's thinking of some QT post" thing.
Like...IF the phone is fake, then N3 is also fake, solstice and cheese just distancing themselves so that solstice goes under for a cause. They'd have planned it out N3, which is when that cheese post pops up.
To me, it's an indicator of fakeplan. They've decided to separate themselves during the night, solstice calls cheese scum scum scum. And either solstice is supposed to say something in thread, but never did, and cheese never checked, or solstice put something in QT that cheese is referencing.
Or I'm paranoid. But if you're considering the solstice/cheese stuff being fake, it's this weird anomaly that stands out, indicating that cheese saw/expected to see something out of solstice that ain't in thread.
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Like, this is the third time I think that you've mentioned that without any kind of direction. Could you not have looked for yourself to try and find the source? And if you did and couldn't find it, why not post what you think it means?
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