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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 09 2013 02:54 GMT
#5601
Mr. Cheesecake what kind of music do you listen to?
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 09 2013 02:54 GMT
#5602
On October 09 2013 11:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
But it's not that you're sure and want to know if you're right or wrong, your attesting that you don't know - that you're paranoid of everyone. A townie would want NAY!! NEEEED!!! that time to figure out their reads.

To me it just looks like you're trying to look like a townie by doing what the townies are doing. It stanks.


When have I ever wanted time to 'figure it out' as town?

Because even when you're right and what to lynch stutters people don't listen to you and vote off some other townie wagon driven by scum.

48 hours is plenty to figure out who one of two townies is between the 3 candidates. I'd like to hope it's Austin at this point.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 09 2013 02:55 GMT
#5603
On October 09 2013 11:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mr. Cheesecake what kind of music do you listen to?


But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 09 2013 02:57 GMT
#5604
Punk music is the devil's music. Hang, scum.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 09 2013 03:01 GMT
#5605
On October 09 2013 11:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Punk music is the devil's music. Hang, scum.

You only think that because you're an old, old man.
Like me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 09 2013 03:01 GMT
#5606
On October 09 2013 11:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Punk music is the devil's music. Hang, scum.

Nono you got something wrong there now VE. We have a problem. :p
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cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
October 09 2013 03:09 GMT
#5607
VOTE COUNT:


Chairman Ray (6) : austinmcc, VisceraEyes (X), raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority, WaveofShadow, VisceraEyes, Mr. Cheesecake
austinmcc (0) : VayneAuthority (X)

Not voting (1) : Chairman Ray

+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
  • VayneAuthority -> austinmcc
  • austinmcc -> Chairman Ray
  • VisceraEyes -> Chairman Ray
  • raynpelikoneet -> Chairman Ray
  • VayneAuthority -> Chairman Ray
  • WaveofShadow -> Chairman Ray
  • VisceraEyes -> --
  • VisceraEyes -> Chairman Ray
  • Mr. Cheesecake -> Chairman Ray



41 hours to go.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 09 2013 13:43 GMT
#5608
So i guess nothing's gonna happen until deadline, correct guys?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 09 2013 13:43 GMT
#5609
Can we have a vote for 24h days?
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
October 09 2013 14:04 GMT
#5610
Everyone who wants today to end in 6 hours (24 hours early) send me a PM as soon as possible. If not all people send me a PM it will not happen.

I have not talked this through with Sentinel yet, so even if everyone PMs me there is a small chance it's not gonna happen.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 09 2013 14:27 GMT
#5611
On October 09 2013 10:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hihi

Haven't read anything since my last post right after the lynch. Checked who died. Anything cool happen?

The timing of this post is kinda interesting. What do you guys think?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 09 2013 14:29 GMT
#5612
On October 09 2013 23:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 10:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hihi

Haven't read anything since my last post right after the lynch. Checked who died. Anything cool happen?

The timing of this post is kinda interesting. What do you guys think?

I think it's interesting that he says he checked who died AND he asked if anything cool happened. Like he's going to great lengths to say "Hey I have definitely NOT been following along AT ALL. FOR SURE.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 09 2013 14:29 GMT
#5613
Like, Pandain the last Banger died, was that not cool enough for him?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 09 2013 14:30 GMT
#5614
On October 09 2013 23:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 23:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 09 2013 10:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hihi

Haven't read anything since my last post right after the lynch. Checked who died. Anything cool happen?

The timing of this post is kinda interesting. What do you guys think?

I think it's interesting that he says he checked who died AND he asked if anything cool happened. Like he's going to great lengths to say "Hey I have definitely NOT been following along AT ALL. FOR SURE.

Yeah. You are right.
Maybe we lynch Cheesecake before Austin. Punk music and everything-
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 09 2013 14:37 GMT
#5615
I mean. It's totally unnecessary to come in and say "hey guize, anything interesting going on, i just looked at the flips, havn't been here since 24 hours".

Just after CR posts this:
On October 09 2013 10:21 Chairman Ray wrote:
Yeah, I'm mafia. I definitely lost this. My play really sucked. Getting quite an earful in QT lol.

GL finding last mafia. ^^

Like, is Cheesecake trying to intentionally incriminate himself by reverse-psychology as town or wtf?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 09 2013 14:39 GMT
#5616
And where the fuck is Austin?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 09 2013 15:15 GMT
#5617
Mr. Cheesecake's case on ChairmanRay:

On October 06 2013 00:19 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 18:01 Chairman Ray wrote:
Oh, only 11 hours left. I definitely won't be here tomorrow for endgame, so I'm gonna stay up late tonight to try to catch up.

I've lightly skimmed through posts so far, and I take it that Koshi is winning votes because of RNG? Filtering through his posts, it's pretty clear that he's aggravated by this decision by town. I'm gonna put myself in his shoes for a sec. If I was town, and everyone was gonna RNG lynch me, then I would just be like wtf... I definitely wouldn't be angry since it's not due to my own lack of skill or other people's misreads, but sheer luck instead. Once I flip town, then the townies will just feel really stupid for doing it and I'd be okay with that. Now what if I was in Koshi's shoes and I was mafia? I would probably be a bit aggravated to push town off me, and if I flip red, then people will probably celebrate at my expense. But the thing is that I am not Koshi, so I don't share his feelings or thought process, so this read might be off. To people that have played with Koshi before, would you expect this kind of behavior from town or mafia Koshi? I definitely think that by his behavior, he is more likely mafia.

Another thing that's consistent with Koshi being mafia is that there are others trying to save him. If Koshi were town, then it could be possible that there is no effort to save him, light effort to save him, or heavy effort to save him. Anything is possible. If Koshi were mafia, I would bet that his mafia buddies wouldn't give up on him so easily, especially on D1. Since the RNG thing is so stupid, then his mafia buddies could easily make a case for it and not seem scummy in the process. So if Koshi were mafia, I would bet that there is some heavy effort to save him. Right now, we do see some heavy effort, in the form of the yamato train. Although this could happen if Koshi was either town or mafia, I suspect it is more likely if he were mafia.

Because of these reasons, I think there's a good chance that Koshi is actually scum, and we got really lucky with the RNG.

Just for now
##Vote: Koshi

I will be up for a bit more reading through posts. I would like to think about it a bit more before leaving for the night with a read that came from RNG.


Problem with the bolded: Invalidates his entire paragraph because 'he is not Koshi'. Preparing for a townflip (or, scum that isn't his team flip)

Next post:

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 01:44 Chairman Ray wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: yamato77


wtf?

This made me LOL:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 12:35 Chairman Ray wrote:
Hey I'm back now, and I did a quick read through the thread. Definitely impressed by all the reads and information people have been giving. You guys are definitely carrying me here .

Anyways, my personal opinion, I think it's best to go after people that have a possibility to be on a scumteam with SnB. If we can get rid of one scumteam, then the KP goes down. Reading through the filters, I think the strongest disconnect with SnB is probably Palmer. For this reason, even though Palmer might be a good lynch candidate, I wouldn't vote him myself just because I want to get rid of SnB's scumteam first.

After a quick analysis, I don't think that there's much of a chance that VA and FT are on the same scumteam, and Palmer and FT are on the same scumteam either. There's a weak disconnect between VA and palmer, but that can go either way. So using the four people - VA, SnB, FT, and Palm, I will try to see if I can map out their alliance.

Scenario A
Scumteam: SnB, VA
FT and Palmer cannot occupy third spot, and they are also disconnected, so one must be other scumteam, one must be town

Scenario B
Scumteam: SnB, FT
VA and Palmer cannot occupy third spot. They can both be other scumteam, or one of the is scum, one is town.

Among the three people VA, FT, and Palmer, here's the information that we will get from lynching them:
VA - If he flips scum with SnB, then either FT or Palmer must be town. If he flips opposite scum, then FT is likely scum, or else both FT and Palmer are town. If he flips town, then FT and Palmer can be scum on opposite teams, or one is scum, one is town.
FT - If he flips scum with SnB, then out of VA and palmer, one or both is on the other scumteam. If he flips other scumteam, then, Palmer is town, and VA is can either be town or scum with SnB, more likely scum with SnB. If he flips town, then we don't know much about Palmer and VA.
Palmer - I don't want to lynch him, but if he flips other scumteam, then it doesn't say much about VA and FT, and if he flips town, it doesn't say much either.

There's also solstice, which some people are pushing to vote. I think the only disconnect that can even be drawn with him is with Palmer, but it's not a very strong one. I also doubt he's gonna be lynched today, so there isn't much of a point trying to piece him in. I will do that tomorrow.

Right now, I think I'm gonna put my vote on FT since there isn't that big a benefit lynching VA over him, and plus, I wanna save Palmer.


##Vote: FirmTofu


Scum with Palmsy?? LOL! He votes Vayne / FT multiple times but never Palmar in any case ever in life.

CR's posts are really constructed and fluent... kind of like town -should- be playing but don't.. kind of reeks of 'i wanna look townie'....

Have a few reservations, but def not a townread anymore.

He quotes three posts that give him scum feelings on CR.

Problem 1:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 30 2013 10:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm townreading CR for this post:

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 06:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
Oh shit! I didn't get lynched on day 1 this time. I think it's pretty clear that I'm mafia. This will never happen if I'm town.


Chairman Ray has been the victim of D1 mislynches in his first two games. If he's mafia this game, I'd believe that he'd be even more cautious of the noose. I don't know of many players who, on their first scum game, would make a joke like this. This is a joke post that is null if a player like myself posted it, but for a noob like CR I'm leaning townie.

Notice the timestamps. Before this CC has not read CR in any way. Two of his posts that now make CR scum have been posted before CC puts out his town read on CR. How are they now scummy? They were not before.

Problem 2:
The last quote of CR. It's been 36 hours since that post and Mr.CC has not mentioned CR in any way in his filter in that time frame. He has wanted to lynch solstice, prefers Oats lynch, Pandain is ok. Not a single mention of CR.


This "case" looks like it's fabricated, and all in all is really weak.

Leaning on bus.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 09 2013 15:21 GMT
#5618
Yeah I'm fully down with lynching Cheese before Austin unless Austin literally doesn't come back. And even then, it's meh.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 09 2013 15:29 GMT
#5619
And btw i am refusing to lynch WoS or Vayne.

Vayne has been straight up townie with his interactions with scum. No retarded "let's make me look better"-busses with cases on scumbuddies (which has been the case here). No trying to save anyone or any other shennies. Just straight up "these people are scum, that's it, now die". Looks like normal town!Vayne, not too tryhard.

WoS has been genuinely interested in these Solstice/CR situations. Has been asking the right questions and has a clear thought process. If he is scum he deserves to win, because there are couple of things that are (in that case) incredibly next-level scumplay. (1) His interactions with Solstice on D4. (2) CR claims scum. When the plan goes shit, CR claims fakeclaiming shennies as town. WoS tricks CR into claiming scum again. If that is the plan for scum!WoS and CR, oh my god, i salute WoS!

So yeah, lynch CC, then Austin. CC before Austin because if Austin is town he has played a really good game and i don't want to mislynch him for good play unless he is my last pick for mafia.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 09 2013 15:32 GMT
#5620
On October 10 2013 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And btw i am refusing to lynch WoS or Vayne.

Vayne has been straight up townie with his interactions with scum. No retarded "let's make me look better"-busses with cases on scumbuddies (which has been the case here). No trying to save anyone or any other shennies. Just straight up "these people are scum, that's it, now die". Looks like normal town!Vayne, not too tryhard.

WoS has been genuinely interested in these Solstice/CR situations. Has been asking the right questions and has a clear thought process. If he is scum he deserves to win, because there are couple of things that are (in that case) incredibly next-level scumplay. (1) His interactions with Solstice on D4. (2) CR claims scum. When the plan goes shit, CR claims fakeclaiming shennies as town. WoS tricks CR into claiming scum again. If that is the plan for scum!WoS and CR, oh my god, i salute WoS!

So yeah, lynch CC, then Austin. CC before Austin because if Austin is town he has played a really good game and i don't want to mislynch him for good play unless he is my last pick for mafia.

Agree completely. Gg?

(I wasn't trying to trick CR for the record. Legitimately just asking questions. Sometimes you just get a favourable result .)
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