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Also, I'm GENERALLY not a busser.
Aperture 2 I try to pull people off scumbuddy iamperfection D1, and never really talk about Hiro. In personality 2, Ver was on our team and never read his role PM, DarthPunk comes in for him on like...D3 or something and looks AWFUL. I don't even DISCUSS him, and try to keep marv and foolishness fighting with each other. I don't think I really mention half or more of my teammates that game and they all lived, so it wasn't a tiny chunk of the game.
I DID shoot some scumbros in Aperture 3, and was on alakaslam once he looked odd, and on randombum just because he was part of our plan, for me to be scummy on him but take him out at night. Off the top of my head I don't think I really give reads or put focus on other teammates though.
I got me some scum games to look at. I'm generally NOT a fan of talking about my team.
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On October 10 2013 11:09 VisceraEyes wrote: What do you mean you "weren't a factor yet"? You were in the game and posting walls and making cases on s0Lstice! In my mind, I'm not a ... big factor on N2? I DO have a case on solstice, I call him out, he wants more, I make a large post. And I call vayne out for speculation, try to get oats posting.
But I don't think me on N2 is as much a factor in the game as I become later. Not until starting to argue with Pandain about Palmar > FT/Vayne do I really feel like I'm in this game.
I can't tell you why I don't get shot N2. Maybe solstice thinks he's swayed me, because my last posts on him are:On October 02 2013 10:42 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:39 s0Lstice wrote:On October 02 2013 10:36 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 10:31 s0Lstice wrote: oh austin dearest.
scum s0lstice: is skating by with lean reads because he can't for some reason (despite not being a dumbass) make convincing fake reads town s0lstice: is skating by with lean reads because he is operating on incomplete information due to time comstraints but still feels compelled to be present and accounted for at important events (i.e. his first lynch)
again, not that I'm complaining about the time thing...but there is plenty to the town side of that and as far as I can tell you haven't made a clear case as to why one is better than the other. especially considering that I have a scum game to reference and I was in fine form in it.
you want to give hiro time to do something, and he was here from day 1. I've said I am not going to be useless all game and I meant it. If I never pull through, lynch me then. EZPZ
the truth is I have never been this inactive/useless as either alignment We can only be dearest right now if you're town  I generally play active scum and I make fake reads and play and am somewhat active. I just played a scum game where I didn't post at all D2 and then just sheeped some vote right before the lynch happened. I do not buy into people always playing the same way, so having some fine form scum games(s) doesn't mean you're town this one (especially given that replacing into a game as scum is a whole different ball game than starting as scum). Hiro has posted stuff that makes me want to get him to take stances on things he hasn't talked about. It's not just "post more", it's more "post on these specific topics" You have posted a bunch about FT, but never actually SAID anything about him. Even more than VA's WHO SHOT BH? post, your FT comments are pure air. Never substantiated, constantly mentioned, and relatively important to the game given that he was up for lynch. ALSO IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN THIS INACTIVE/USLESS AS EITHER ALIGNMENT THEN I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS WHETHER YOU WERE ACTIVE SCUM IN SOME OTHER GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME. IT DOESN'T MATTER AT AAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL. AND WHEN I'VE REPLACED IN AS SCUM I'VE BEEN INACTIVE, BUT REPLACING IN AS TOWN I USUALLY START COMING TO LIFE AFTER A BIT SO IT MAKES ME THINK EVEN MORE YOU ARE SCUM.Sorry. Find you scummy. If you're townie we can makeup after the game, but no kissing because I got hot dog stand lady breath and you don't want none of that. dude, you cited my capability as town to make good reads and good posts. thats meta. when you meta you have to provide both sides. that's why I said I haven't played like this as either alignment i.e. meta is going to be mostly useless at this point Fair (but you're still mafiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa). Care to substantiate your FT read? Or talk about something else. Right now I'm going to be generally scummy on you because of what I've seen. And I will try to convince others you're scummy. If you're town, spend time doing townie stuff and don't argue with me solely about what's already happened in this game or others. On October 02 2013 10:42 austinmcc wrote:Please  And the HAL post. Maybe he thinks I'm actually more open-minded, just concerned with his lack of involvement, and will back off if he gets more active.
Maybe just because I'm on solstice doesn't mean I'm #1 on their list. I dunno.
I can't tell you why I'm not shot. All I can say is that I don't think I was particularly involved and threatening until the point where we already had a cop and confirmed townies. I'm not on CR on D2/N2. And I'm on solstice, find him scummy, but perhaps sound like I can be swayed.
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On October 10 2013 11:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Meh - s0L does nothing townie between the posts you just quoted as your last to him (where, by the way, you say he's scummy and that you'll try and convince others that he's scummy, which, you don't) and the post where you vote for Palmar. Your goose is cooked austin. If I'm wrong, I whoever's left will deal with it after you flip.
For the record though, I still think you're the bomb diggity and yours have been some of the most enjoyable posts in the game. My goose is entirely uncooked, and if you cook it, you'll be goose-sorry.
The thing he does that's townie is actually POST and be somewhat involved. It ain't the towniest thing ever, I agree, but look at why I'm scummy on him. We're both replacements, I feel guilty and want to get involved, he doesn't seem to. My entire suspicion rests on low posts/low involvement, which him posting alleviates somewhat.
Have you found the source of this, VE?On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.
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that post is 12 hours after cheese's post
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Look at only the posts before please
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The first one does somewhat. There's no discussion of them "getting in contact" anywhere though.
Cheese doesn't say solstice talking about the mafia teams figuring out/addressing the other team. He says "getting in contact."
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On October 10 2013 11:32 VisceraEyes wrote: What are you getting at? This is something you've brought up before and I'm curious to know where it's going. It bugs me, and it smells like a "maybe something went wrong/maybe he's thinking of some QT post" thing.
Like...IF the phone is fake, then N3 is also fake, solstice and cheese just distancing themselves so that solstice goes under for a cause. They'd have planned it out N3, which is when that cheese post pops up.
To me, it's an indicator of fakeplan. They've decided to separate themselves during the night, solstice calls cheese scum scum scum. And either solstice is supposed to say something in thread, but never did, and cheese never checked, or solstice put something in QT that cheese is referencing.
Or I'm paranoid. But if you're considering the solstice/cheese stuff being fake, it's this weird anomaly that stands out, indicating that cheese saw/expected to see something out of solstice that ain't in thread.
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On October 10 2013 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Like, this is the third time I think that you've mentioned that without any kind of direction. Could you not have looked for yourself to try and find the source? And if you did and couldn't find it, why not post what you think it means? I did look and try to find the source. I found no source.
I mainly wanted to see what Cheese said about it, if he could find some posts that he was referring to. But then cheese hasn't been in thread, so I asked you and rayn instead.
Still would like to see what cheese said he's referring to.
You were supposed to interpret my question as "Hey, here's this spot where cheese mentions x but I looked and I never saw x" and not "Hey, here's this spot where cheese mentions x, but I'm too lazy to check for x, so I'll have VE go do it"
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No. That one sounds scummy. And I ain't mafia.
Also ... how can I post that multiple times and then duck around the corner going "Hee hee hee, they'll never suspect it was ME that pointed out this one thing!"
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Oh. I dunno what other connections you draw from someone mentioning something that you don't see in thread. To me, the two are the same. If you don't see a post where solstice talks about them getting in contact, then you get suspicious that things ain't on the up and up.
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I guess that gives me slightly more credit, but still...that sounds dumb. That's like me running around TWO corners and going "Hee hee hee, they'll find the body and look around the first corner and report what's around the corner to the cops, but they'll never suspect that I was hiding behind the SECOND corner"
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Yeah but that's only in the metaphor. Which I really wanted to make.
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The important thing is that I'm actually town, and have given you my best explanation as to why I'm not dead. And these are legitimate townme thoughts on cc. That doesn't mean they're right at all, I'm really paranoid at this point, but ... things to consider. The only thing he's done that REALLY REALLY screams scum to me is the post attacking oats.
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On October 10 2013 11:50 VisceraEyes wrote: But...you made a simile... +1
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You're right on grammar but wrong on me.
Look at my friggin' D4. JUST LOOK AT IT. Look at scum QT from Aperture 3 where I fight the team on NKs, sometimes making stupid decisions, but really trying to force my will for night actions/shots. Look at my other scumgames where I really don't mention my teammates.
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On October 10 2013 12:51 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't understand what you expect me to find looking at your scum QTs in other games. I have no reference from this game to compare to dooooo I?
DOOOOOOOOOO AAAYYEEEEEEEEEEEEE?? You're lucky I'm still awake. No, you don' have anything to compare it to this game, therefore I'm not scum! BOOM!
Mainly, at least from Aperture 3, that I will argue on NKs and actions and be paranoid and everything, but generally try to like...get my way. I may be overemphasizing based on how I felt about that one, but I was pretty pushy in the QT when it came to us having disagreements on lynch targets or power usages, and I'd really push for my side of things.
If the scumteam is CR/solstice/me, we wouldn't have payphoned no CC. He was willing to vote for Palmar, didn't really fit what I was expecting from the third MCB. I woulda argued and argued and we totes would have contacted WoS, because CR would have been on my team so we couldn't contact him.
THAT is what I think you'll find, and it's a super nebulous concept that may or may not appear, but hopefully should, from at least that QT. I argue my side and I try to get the team to take the actions/shots I want. Solstice so bad at scum he lied in the thread to me about his alignment and also tried that claim. I'd totally try and pull mafia rank on him and make us contact WoS (if I were mafia).
This point sounds a bit dumber written out, but ... it's like what I was saying with VA except I was wrong. I would have pushed for my target and not cheesecake, because cheesecake doesn't make sense as the third MCB imo.
You're not looking for a particular post. You're looking for ... me having some pushiness when it comes to actions/shots.
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On October 10 2013 12:58 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm totally up for accepting your concession dude. You played REALLY well. Thank you. It's the best town game I've had in a while, although I haven't been as wonderful after the earlier days, and I don't appear to have accomplished townie mission one.
And yet it's still the best town game in a while
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Which is to say, again, that I'm town.
That D4 makes NO SENSE if I'm teamed with solstice/CR.
And I wasn't/my team wouldn't have been in a position that a NO SENSE play makes sense. You yourself had commented that you were fucked if I were mafia. But I'm not. Professor Farnsworth indicated that I had good news for you (my being town).
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And me being so jokey probably isn't helping, but oh well. It's been fun even now. I'll get back on a serious track tomorrow.
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Maaaaaaaaaaan. There's a bunch of nonsense against me. I'll do another reread tomorrow of Cheese and VA. Cheese really popped for me today, in light of Pandain actually being the 3rd MCB.
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