It is a bit different WoS. It is different. If you fakeclaim to save someone getting lynched or to lynch someone you "know" (by this i mean -- you are really sure) is town/scum. That is different than claiming MAFIA during the night phase, when it does not help. Fuck, CR did not even have Pandain as a scumread and then his "reasoning" is "otherwise Koshi could have shot someone else than Pandain, like me". Guess what, no.

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 00:21 GMT

#5530

On October 09 2013 09:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lying is lying Rayn. Pointless to get a bigger argument about it right now because it's not entirely relevant. People know what my stance on policy-lynchable stuff is.

Anyway, the situation is kind of hilarious because I remember thinking that CR could come back and do exactly this around the time I cam back with the Daypost but I forgot. Here's a question. Which scum member would be sufficiently 'I don't give a fuck' enough to let CR do this?

Essentially they either would have had to plan this from the start, or CR scumclaimed without consulting his buddy and now the buddy is freaking out saying 'NO. THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL SAY/DO NOW. Gonna try and clean up your mess.'

This is not correct.
If i was scum with Solstice and CR i would have done the exact same thing on D4 ->. This is really good scumplay, really creative. I think Austin.

I explained it to VE earlier on if you read the post.

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 00:35 GMT

#5533

On October 09 2013 09:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I like how you said that two members of a three-man scumteam claiming scum is good play, even as you sniff it out and lynch them in rapid succession.

Rayn your mind is ever a mystery.

It would be. Except that it's not anymore when Koshi was a baller and shot Pandain.

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 01:10 GMT

#5537

Good WaveofShadow. Good. You get townie points.

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 01:13 GMT

#5540

On October 09 2013 10:12 WaveofShadow wrote:

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I don't need your charity.
I AM A SELF MADE MAN

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October 09 2013 01:14 GMT

#5541

On October 09 2013 10:12 Chairman Ray wrote:

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On October 09 2013 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:

On October 09 2013 09:58 Chairman Ray wrote:

On October 09 2013 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote:

On October 09 2013 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On October 09 2013 08:53 WaveofShadow wrote:

On October 09 2013 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On October 09 2013 08:46 WaveofShadow wrote:

On October 09 2013 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not even read what you wrote because if you fakeclaimed scum it's beyond stupid.
You very well know what is wise and what is not as you have played in the clusterfuck Noire.

He's just taking a page out of YOUR book, Rayn.
Do you see what kind of precedent you set?

I may have fakeclaimed, but i do not claim fucking scum!
If you claim scum it affects people's reads. Also nobody will ever trust you again in this game. That's all you get for claiming scum as town. There is no way anyone should ever claim scum as town "to not get shot" or "to get someone else shot". This is fucking bullshit.

I don't really see a difference.
You don't think the more you do it, that people aren't going to be able to trust anything YOU say because you're setting up some retarded trap?
This is the perfect example of why you don't fucking lie as town.

Holy shit WoS, are you scum? Seriously. You put fakeclaiming and lying as town in the same category of claiming scum, when there are zero advantages to do so as town.

Dude says he has a big post of reads. "Post it". Takes an hour, apparently he typed the post up there. Pressure on. Cracks under pressure. What's next. HE DECIDES THAT HIS BEST CHANCE AS TOWN TO HELP THE TOWN IS TO CLAIM SCUM! ROFLSKATES!

Yeah in this light it seems ridiculous. If he were town planning to fake-claim, why not do so BEFORE posting the big ass post? Why not be like "Fuck okay this is too much you guys got me good job" and left it at that until today? Why go to the trouble of posting the reads, interact a bit, THEN go through with his fake-claim plan?

##Vote: ChairmanRay

I fake claimed as a response to getting pressured by mafia so I could prevent myself from being shot by cop. I wouldn't need to if I didn't get the pressure. I had it planned to do it for a while now, but if I do it when there's no reason to, it just looks really stupid and I doubt anyone would fall for it.

So here's a question.
Why exactly would you not want to get shot by the cop?

We had 10 people left. Mafia has up to 3KP. If 3 town dies, and I get shot by cop. That leaves 3-2-1. If town then gets lynched, town loses. If you lynch the one banger, then town loses at night since it goes down to 2-2-0 after the kill. If you lynch the other scum team, then it goes to 3-1-1, and after 2 KP, it goes to 1-1-1, and then town loses. I had to do something drastic to make sure that this doesn't happen.

The problem here is townies do not die to cop shots..

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 01:21 GMT

#5546

wut?

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 01:22 GMT

#5547

On October 09 2013 10:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
So yeah...CC probably best chance for last scum atm.
Rayn, thoughts?

Dunno, def not you or Vayne i'd say.
We have a mislynch, two left... dun dun.. :D

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 01:24 GMT

#5549

CR you should go talk to Austin in your scum QT and see if he can come up with some other plan once again. :p

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 01:24 GMT

#5550

On October 09 2013 10:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hihi

Haven't read anything since my last post right after the lynch. Checked who died. Anything cool happen?

lol, everything cool happened.

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 01:36 GMT

#5558

Yeah, possible. So no shennies.

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 01:46 GMT

#5564

Mr.CC do you think Austin is town?

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 02:54 GMT

#5601

Mr. Cheesecake what kind of music do you listen to?

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 03:01 GMT

#5606

On October 09 2013 11:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Punk music is the devil's music. Hang, scum.

Nono you got something wrong there now VE. We have a problem. :p

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 13:43 GMT

#5608

So i guess nothing's gonna happen until deadline, correct guys?

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 13:43 GMT

#5609

Can we have a vote for 24h days?

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 14:27 GMT

#5611

On October 09 2013 10:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hihi

Haven't read anything since my last post right after the lynch. Checked who died. Anything cool happen?

The timing of this post is kinda interesting. What do you guys think?

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 14:30 GMT

#5614

On October 09 2013 23:29 VisceraEyes wrote:

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I think it's interesting that he says he checked who died AND he asked if anything cool happened. Like he's going to great lengths to say "Hey I have definitely NOT been following along AT ALL. FOR SURE.

Yeah. You are right.
Maybe we lynch Cheesecake before Austin. Punk music and everything-

raynpelikoneet

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October 09 2013 14:37 GMT

#5615

I mean. It's totally unnecessary to come in and say "hey guize, anything interesting going on, i just looked at the flips, havn't been here since 24 hours".

Just after CR posts this:

On October 09 2013 10:21 Chairman Ray wrote:
Yeah, I'm mafia. I definitely lost this. My play really sucked. Getting quite an earful in QT lol.

GL finding last mafia. ^^

Like, is Cheesecake trying to intentionally incriminate himself by reverse-psychology as town or wtf?