There... is .... absolutely .... no ... way ... VayneAuthority .... is .... mafia !!!!

If you guys are too dumb or scum to see it i can't help you.
Which one of the non-confirmed townies (+Vayne) can give me reasons why?
Now is your time to shine and gain some town credit.

raynpelikoneet

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October 08 2013 22:03 GMT

#5490

No CR. You don't fakeclaim cop or any other role as town. You definitely do not fakeclaim scum as town. You die.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

October 08 2013 22:05 GMT

#5491

I do not even read what you wrote because if you fakeclaimed scum it's beyond stupid.
You very well know what is wise and what is not as you have played in the clusterfuck Noire.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

October 08 2013 22:08 GMT

#5492

Austin maybe you can come up with some other scumread we could lynch instead of CR?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

October 08 2013 22:11 GMT

#5495

Okay CharimanRay. Who is the last scum alive?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

October 08 2013 23:02 GMT

#5499

We lynch CR because wew have a mislynch. Don't even think about anything else. This is another fucking ploy to derail the discussion.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

October 08 2013 23:16 GMT

#5502

On October 09 2013 08:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn if you must say something, explain to me why Vayne CANNOT be scum. The idea that you're willing to give unconfirmed town townie points for affirming your confirmation bias is fucking bad. Explain to me, now, why VA is 100% town to you.

First of all, CR is scum. Second, Vayne is not scum with him. That is impossible given the interactions + Vaynes stance on Pandain.

It is beneficial for the 3-man scumteam to sacrifice people over saving Pandain. It gives scum more KP in total, and once the last banger sees the other team is helping them they help each other until town is not in such a good position we are. It doesn't matter if you have 3 people alive, it's more beneficial to have one guy hiding and the other (1-man) scumteam alive for double KP. It also creates a lot of wifom due to night actions.

This went to shit when Koshi shot Pandain. There is no other scumteam anymore. When CR gets lynched we are 5-1 instead of 5-1-1 (which is a good spot for scum -- if well hidden). As scum, you do not want to remove KP, even if it from a different team, especially as you have in 2 last phases helped out the other scumteam to survive (remember, me and Vayne were gunning hard for Pandain lynch RIGHT after Noir ended and never let go of that -- and never wouldn't). If Solstice would not have fakeclaimed on D4 we would have lynched Pandain. Trust me, we would have done it. That would have been incredibly bad spot for remaining scum. 7-3, cop alive, you have 1 KP, 4/7 of the town is confirmed, there are vests. Imagine it?

ChairmanRay is scum, Vayne is town. That's a fucking fact. Because Vayne was gunning hard for Pandain lynch, and that would not have been good play if Vayne is scum with Sol/CR. Also VE, trust me, the other team had figured out Pandain is scum.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

October 08 2013 23:23 GMT

#5505

And that is why Austin is scum with CR.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

October 08 2013 23:25 GMT

#5506

It does not work anymore because Pandain died. Scum are in a fucking bad spot. Especially how the discussion has gone at the start of tody. As soon as i saw Pandain being the last banger i knew Vayne is town. There is no other explanation.

If you gun hard for other mafia team's people, they might kill you. You want to hold hands and stay silent and not disturb them because it helps you more (see Palmar for example) as you kill townies together, and when the time is right you win the game with one big blow.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

October 08 2013 23:29 GMT

#5508

So you think it is more likely that Chariman Ray, the guy who plays his third game of mafia in teamliquid, decided the best action for the town in N4 is that he claims scum? Seriously? Like, what if Koshi shot him because scum? What? Good play right there?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

October 08 2013 23:44 GMT

#5514

This is fucking ridiculous and VE if you let this happen you get the worst play 2013 award.
Let a scum who claimed scum live!

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

October 08 2013 23:46 GMT

#5515

We have a mislynch, the guy claimed scum. That's it.
Now we are again not discussing who is the last scum.. We are discussing if the confirmed scum is scum?? For fucks sake.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

October 08 2013 23:50 GMT

#5518

On October 09 2013 08:46 WaveofShadow wrote:

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He's just taking a page out of YOUR book, Rayn.
Do you see what kind of precedent you set?

I may have fakeclaimed, but i do not claim fucking scum!
If you claim scum it affects people's reads. Also nobody will ever trust you again in this game. That's all you get for claiming scum as town. There is no way anyone should ever claim scum as town "to not get shot" or "to get someone else shot". This is fucking bullshit.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

October 08 2013 23:58 GMT

#5523

On October 09 2013 08:53 WaveofShadow wrote:

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I don't really see a difference.
You don't think the more you do it, that people aren't going to be able to trust anything YOU say because you're setting up some retarded trap?
This is the perfect example of why you don't fucking lie as town.

Holy shit WoS, are you scum? Seriously. You put fakeclaiming and lying as town in the same category of claiming scum, when there are zero advantages to do so as town.

Dude says he has a big post of reads. "Post it". Takes an hour, apparently he typed the post up there. Pressure on. Cracks under pressure. What's next. HE DECIDES THAT HIS BEST CHANCE AS TOWN TO HELP THE TOWN IS TO CLAIM SCUM! ROFLSKATES!