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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:05 Pandain wrote: Palmar what do you plan to do this game. What do you perceive as your role I'm like Milli from Team Umizoomi. I have super pattern powers. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:16 Oatsmaster wrote: There is no question. Good job Palmar. uh.. thanks? Hey, I have a question for you. What is VisceraEyes's alignment and why. And given your answer, try to predict what VE's next step in the game would be. Hint: there is a correct answer | ||
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Palmar
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On September 27 2013 15:38 FirmTofu wrote: We've already discussed you quite enough. There are at least 5 other scummers out there. I'm interested in discussing as many people as possible. I'll discuss you if you end up being the #1 or #2 candidate later in the day. This exchange is very, very interesting. First off, take note that everything FirmTofu has done in this game was done in a span of half an hour, ie: in a single session. This is important because he intentionally drifts away from his conclusion that can be seen in the posts above. He seems quite certain Grack is scum, albeit with little reasoning. But his logic is completely off. If he thinks the chance of Grack flipping scum is so high, why doesn't he pile on? After all, trying to scumhunt the entire team on day 1 is completely retarded, you find scum, and you run with it. On September 27 2013 15:35 FirmTofu wrote: Okay, so my best scum read right now is ShiaoPi. He's been around, but hasn't contributed. His filter is all one liners with basically no substance. Now, I know ShiaoPi is a lot better than how he's playing right now. I want to know why he is playing below is full potential. Filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429897&user=ShiaoPi RNG debate. Statistically, it is a great idea to randomly choose a day one lynch. There are 6 scum between us. 6/20= .3 I don't think the best scumhunters among us can lynch with greater accuracy on Day 1 than 30%. However, I also don't think there is any method by which we can decide a fair way to choose a random kill. We would need an unbiased party to use random.org or something. We don't have any confirmed town, so discussing this topic is pointless. Lynching randomly is impractical and unfeasible. Stop wasting time discussing this pointless topic. Additionally, ShiaoPi is 100% not the only person that falls into this category. I don't particularly mind the ShiaoPi vote at this point, but note again the timing is important. Less than 20 minutes after calling Grack probable scum, FT is voting for someone else with equally awful reasons. Again, I don't mind voting ShiaoPi, but WHY does FT vote him over Grack? That's the important question here. Nothing in FT's posts explains his choice to do so, there is no logical reason for him, from the information he presents us with, to go after SP over FT, yet he does it. Also, I don't give a shit about you going to bed or reading other games FT, stop with the excuses. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:22 Palmar wrote: uh.. thanks? Hey, I have a question for you. What is VisceraEyes's alignment and why. And given your answer, try to predict what VE's next step in the game would be. Hint: there is a correct answer VE is TOWN cause of reasons that you know I know. VE's next step is to push BH cause hes a cool cat like that. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Koshi
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On September 27 2013 20:51 Koshi wrote: Maybe to put pressure on SP? I don't find it scummy tbh. With limited time he could have voted Grack and then make a case on SP. Or just 1up grack and then make case + vote to give his case more value. If you think someone is scum you don't try to create a new bandwagon. If you another guy has more chance of flipping scum than someone who's already under pressure, you make a case that's you know.. actually a case, to convince people to follow your reasoning. As to your point about putting pressure on SP, do you honestly think that SP feels any kind of pressure from a random vote with no reasons to back it up, from a guy who has no influence on the game so far. Remember FT hasn't done anything to establish himself as a person that demands attention in town. Or are you merely saying FT is stupid and thinks that his vote holds more value than it does? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 27 2013 21:03 Palmar wrote: If you think someone is scum you don't try to create a new bandwagon. If you another guy has more chance of flipping scum than someone who's already under pressure, you make a case that's you know.. actually a case, to convince people to follow your reasoning. As to your point about putting pressure on SP, do you honestly think that SP feels any kind of pressure from a random vote with no reasons to back it up, from a guy who has no influence on the game so far. Remember FT hasn't done anything to establish himself as a person that demands attention in town. Or are you merely saying FT is stupid and thinks that his vote holds more value than it does? I don't think it is stupid at all. FT also says he will make a case if Grack leads in votes. I am not a fan of people playin this game 1 hour a day but FT made a splash and I dont find that splash scummy. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On September 27 2013 21:09 Koshi wrote: I don't think it is stupid at all. FT also says he will make a case if Grack leads in votes. I am not a fan of people playin this game 1 hour a day but FT made a splash and I dont find that splash scummy. What's the point of making a case on someone that is up for lynch. If said person is #1 or #2, he most likely has been discussed to death, so it's just a matter of coming to a conclusion on whether or not you agree with the current logic in the thread. Saying he "made a splash" is a gross misrepresentation of what actually happened. FT made a quiet random vote with no reasons behind it that made exactly 0 people think twice about ShiaoPi. That is equally pointless as refusing to discuss Grack until it's too late to influence the discussion. So if FT wants to be useless and irrelevant, he's doing a splendid job. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 27 2013 21:21 Palmar wrote: What's the point of making a case on someone that is up for lynch. If said person is #1 or #2, he most likely has been discussed to death, so it's just a matter of coming to a conclusion on whether or not you agree with the current logic in the thread. Saying he "made a splash" is a gross misrepresentation of what actually happened. FT made a quiet random vote with no reasons behind it that made exactly 0 people think twice about ShiaoPi. That is equally pointless as refusing to discuss Grack until it's too late to influence the discussion. So if FT wants to be useless and irrelevant, he's doing a splendid job. Hmm, it's because BH destroyed him instantly. But yeah, FT should have said SP was a plynch. Then there would have been an higher chance that his case got any tractions. But Grack reminds me too much of myself in GoT. He came off a scum win and if he would roll town he would mindswap into finding scum and not be trolling. But because he rolled scum again his mind stays the same and he trolls in the start. Saying I am scum is just icing on the cake. | ||
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ShiaoPi
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In other news why koshi do you think that grack is scum? In my opinion bringing himself so much attention right off the bat is quite unlikely for mafia | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 27 2013 21:32 ShiaoPi wrote: I can agree with a lot of points on FirmTofu, but he always seemed like lynchbait to me. I am unsure yet whether or not lynching him gives us a good chance on hitting scum. Would like to hear more from him before deciding on him. In other news why koshi do you think that grack is scum? In my opinion bringing himself so much attention right off the bat is quite unlikely for mafia He didn't bring it to himself. We brought it to him. He was even all like "guys this random lynch is so cool and PALMAR loves it" So nha, he wasn't bringing it all to himself. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On September 27 2013 19:27 Pandain wrote: BH compare Yamatos filter with his previous games and tells me what you see. Would lynch. Will lynch. Not trying to find scum. Instead posting analysis. ? I thought this was Palmar posting, because of the P capital and the IT icon, but then I realized you're Pandain. Do you seriously think I'm not trying to find mafia? | ||
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ShiaoPi
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On September 27 2013 05:33 Grackaroni wrote: Actually Palmar are you down with a random lynch this game? I kind of want to random lynch. He brought the idea up first, koshi. even suggesting random lynching is easily bringing attention to himself | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 27 2013 21:37 ShiaoPi wrote: He brought the idea up first, koshi. even suggesting random lynching is easily bringing attention to himself But he includes somebody else. His first posts also look way too hard as the start in Golden Sun. Why would you even do that as town? Wouldn't it be smart to avoid confusing like that? As town you think about it and decide against it because it is silly. As scum you are probably thinking about WIFOM and shit and never consider it is bad for town. | ||
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ShiaoPi
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On September 12 2013 07:09 Grackaroni wrote: Hi I'm Grack and I am Town. In here first post: On September 27 2013 05:30 Grackaroni wrote: Hello Palmar, I am eager to help your mafia organization. Please tell me your mafia teammates so that I know not to shoot them tonight. The first is akin to kenpachi, not necessarily pure trolling, in here is more trolling like a lot more. On the whole idea of random lynching, statistically speaking he is correct that random lynching is better, not that I am agreeing with random lynch, since I prefer choosing the lynch by myself. So there can be town motivation for promoting randomlynching. | ||
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yamato77
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Koshi
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ShiaoPi
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