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This is so fucking simple. On top of that Austin says he IS SURE Chariman Ray is scum.
This is unbelieveable from a guy who can't tell which one of Koshi/Solstice is fakeclaiming.
If you can't even tell from the claims Solstice is scum and Koshi is town you fucking can't possible tell from 10 people FOR SURE who is the last MBC. Unless you know who is not (your team), and who is town (confirmed) and have an educated guess on like ~3-4 people.
That's so fucking simple. Nothing else makes sense.
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On October 09 2013 00:22 austinmcc wrote: Essentially, if we lynch CR and scum uses an item on koshi/solstice, there would be 2-3 LESS KP tonight. At worst, we save 2-3 townies AND have solstice/koshi tomorrow.
If they don't use an item, it saves 1-2 KP AND solstice/koshi resolves overnight. Explain to me, how the fuck would there be 2-3 KP less? ChairmanRay can now shoot. That's 1 KP less. Who is to say he is not dumb will not shoot into your team?
How do Ballers have now more KP than they would have if Solstice was alive?
Explain this.
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If Koshi and Solstice are both alive, they have to use item to block Koshi or prevent shot. If Solstice is dead, why do they suddenly now NOT have to block Koshi?
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That's so fucking retarded. Austin is mafia.
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On October 09 2013 00:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Rayn it makes sense. Look at it from a scum perspective
If both cops are alive, then NEXT day, they BOTH have to still be alive in order for the lie not to be blown.
In order to ensure that, they have to either Vest s0L or RB Koshi. And they'd have to spend KP to do it. We are close to lylo. Don't fucking blow this now VE. What Austin did makes zero sense. His explanation it makes zero sense. He has to be mafia.
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On October 09 2013 00:39 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: If Koshi and Solstice are both alive, they have to use item to block Koshi or prevent shot. If Solstice is dead, why do they suddenly now NOT have to block Koshi? Because they can just SHOOT him rayn! He had to be alive as long as s0L was alive (because the scums want you to believe that s0L is the cop and Koshi mafia!) so now instead of blocking him, they can just shoot him because town KNOWS he's the cop now. IF THEY SHOOT HIM AND KOSHI SHOOTS SCUM IT'S 1-1 TRADE! If they do not want Koshi to kill mafia, they have to roleblock him.
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Because Koshi can shoot. REGARDLESS OF IF Solstice is mafia, mafia NEEDS TO ROLEBLOCK KOSHI to prevent him shooting scum!!!
If Solstice is alive IT'S BENEFICIAL TO MAFIA TO NOT KILL KOSHI! Now they HAVE to besically kill him.
Fuck VE, why is this so hard.
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Look VE, if Koshi is not confirmed there is the fucking WIFOMWIFOM rayn/Oats/Koshi scum.
Now people know WE ARE ABSOLUTELY 100% town! NOBODY NEEDS TO EVEN CONSIDER FOR A SECOND WE ARE SCUM!
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The suspect pool has been reduced by ~40% efefctively at the start of N4.
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FOR EVERY FUCKING PLAYER!
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On October 09 2013 00:46 VisceraEyes wrote: I get that, but understand this:
The vast majority of town was on Koshi's side. VAST MAJORITY. Whether we killed s0L or not, that's a fact. If both s0L and Koshi were alive, it doesn't matter how much WIFOM there is about rayn/Oats/Koshi - MOST of town was going to be on our side.
Also factor in rayn: s0L CLAIMED SCUM IN THE THREAD! HE WANTED TO DIE!! WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS MAN? BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT US LYNCHING THE BANGER INSTEAD!! No VE, solstice was the main lynch candidate and the thread sentiment was going towards lynching him. I don't care why he claimed scum, as i do not know what scum thought, it's wifom.
What i do know is that lynching him was the absolute best possible solution and he was clearly scum and Austin somehow "couldn't see it" and wanted to lynch someone else based on a sihtty plan which does not even hold water by his explanation.
Koshi shoot Austin.
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Fuck the dude even had his vote on Koshi at some point! FFS!
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Koshi yes he was trying to lynch CR.
But if he can't even fucking tell which on of you / Solstice is scum from your claims he definitely can't tell for 100% CR is the last Banger. That's so unbelieveable, at least considering nearly everyone had a TOWN READ on CR!
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Koshi, does bussing bypass roleblocking?
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omfg why is this town not listening.afsj'oasfhölhoasf THEN WHO THE FUCK IS SCUM BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE WAS MAKING MORE OR LESS SENSE LAST DAY?
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On October 09 2013 00:56 VisceraEyes wrote: You're misinterpreting his intentions. I don't think he couldn't tell which was the fake-claim. I don't think that's the case at all. I think he would have just rather lynched the last Banger. That was my intention. I could tell between the real and the fake claims, but I wanted to lynch the last Banger instead. REALLY VE REALLY? AUTIN HAD HIS VOTE ON KSOHI BEFORE SOLSTICE!!!!
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On October 07 2013 02:38 austinmcc wrote: ##unvote ##vote: Koshi
I am NOT certain that we should be lynching into these two, rather than having Koshi precision shot solstice tonight. If we could know that cop stuff wasn't going to dominaate the discussion forever, I like that idea. But this is in front of us and I don't think everyone will be able to get past it if we don't lynch into them today.
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On October 09 2013 00:59 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: omfg why is this town not listening.afsj'oasfhölhoasf THEN WHO THE FUCK IS SCUM BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE WAS MAKING MORE OR LESS SENSE LAST DAY? I don't know. But austin his idea wasn't the worst in the world if he was legitimatly doubting my claim. The funny thing is that ausin mentions s0lstice around 10-15 times in his filter. Always one-liners that say he might lynch s0lstice. And then after the claim he goes all "AMAGAD I THINK s0lstice is totes cop guis." When it was a forced cc for cop after failed payphone... Austin made zero sense. WaveofShadow was making 1000x more sense than Austin. VA never EVER doubted you over Solstice. Pandain had some wishy-washy comments. Mr.CC wanted to lynch Solstice, entertained the idea of not lynching into cops.
That's what people did.
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On October 09 2013 01:00 Koshi wrote: But then there is WoS who posted around 200 messages doubting my copclaim and still didn't figure it out 40 hours later... So yeah. yOU MISREAD EVERY SINGLE OF WOS' POSTS! He never took his vote off you, even if he doubted you he immediately went back to Occam's Razor and "lynch Solstice".
You took like 10 of his posts out of context and said "WoS bad, WoS doubt me".
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On October 09 2013 01:02 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 00:19 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 27 2013 20:10 Koshi wrote: Hiro pro interesting guy. Do like. Need to follow up though. Otherwise will lynch.
 Like.....  Maybe we should just lynch Koshi and #YOLO Actually I did rayn, get your facts straight. I don't give a fuck what you did because you are town.
I give a fuck about the fact that Austin can't tell which one of Koshi / Sol is mafia, but he can somehow tell CR is 100% scum!!
It makes no fucking sense. + the fact that his "removing KP and being in a better position" is 100% bullshit.
That's it.
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