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VisceraEyes
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On October 08 2013 06:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Watch me lose the game AGAIN VE. IF YOU CONTINUE BEING KIND OF A DICK. I'm not being a dick, I'm trying to keep myself FROM being a dick by removing pretty much the only circumstance that would CAUSE me to be a dick, which is you not hearing what I say in spite of me saying it clearly the first time. I promise I'll do everything I can to help you win Oats, because you're on my team. | ||
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On October 08 2013 06:59 austinmcc wrote: WELL NOBODY IS COMMENTING SO AT LEAST THE SECOND POST IS SOMEWHAT WORTHWHILE. Sorry. And this is something I've been poking at for...72 hours now. And it's finally going to get poked at a little more. So you're gonna have to excuse me commenting/getting hype. No it's fine I was mostly joking anyway. I did open up CR's filter and I disagree. The biggest thing in his filter that I see tying him to the Bangers is his insistence that Palmar and SnB are NOT on the same team, like calls it impossible. So like...why would he say that knowing Palmar has scrutiny on him and COULD be lynched? I'm not saying it's impossible just really unlikely. | ||
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On October 08 2013 07:21 austinmcc wrote: I GOT PULLED BACK IN NOW. Here's that post - I agree that his explicit statement that he wants to save Palmar looks non-MCB. But in context of the post as a WHOLE, (I)I think that townieness fades. The parts where he reads Palmar or talks about Palmar's alignment are in red. The post, in summation says: (1) Palmar might be a good lynch candidate, I wouldn't vote him myself just because I want to get rid of SnB's scumteam. Indicating that CR finds Palmar scummy. He MIGHT be a good lynch candidate (we lynch scum). And he shouldn't be lynched because we want to clear out SnB's team (i.e., Palmar would be on the other team, but still scum, not "Palmar is town so don't lynch"). (2) Palmar might flip scum, might flip town. (3) I wanna save Palmar. While he DOES say he wants to read Palmar, that post as a whole just sort of skirts giving any kind of actual READ on Palmar. Whereas WoS explicitly says can't read can't read can't read, CR manages to post about Palmar, Palmar's alignment, and why he's not lynching Palmar, without ever really taking a stance.(II) It's clear that he doesn't want to lynch Palmar. It's clear he wants to save Palmar. But the way that post ADDRESSES Palmar, he's scum but on the other team, might be town, might be scum, let's save him, is scummy imo.(III) And for the rest of the cycle, despite dropping a couple other posts, CR never addresses Palmar. Pre-switch, post-switch, while asking whether FT will get modkilled, CR stays entirely to the side of the issue of Palmar's alignment. I. It never looked townie, it looked non-MCB...and it doesn't STOP looking non-MCB just because he's wifflywaffly about Palmar's alignment. He said the words "I'm voting FT because I want to save Palmar". That is not likely to come from Palmar's scummate. Full Stop. II. Wave is equally, if not more suspicious, for what you cite here. Except Wave actually goes back on a townread he gave Palmar in order to espouse the sentiment that he can't read Palmar. III. It IS scummy, you're right. But it doesn't make him any more likely Palmar's partner. | ||
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On October 08 2013 08:04 Pandain wrote: One of my biggest things with CC is he's literally not doing shit, but it doesn't mean he's playing scummy. 1. Koshi 2. VisceraEyes 3. Mr. Cheesecake 5. Oatsmaster 7. raynpelikoneet 9. Chairman Ray 12. WaveofShadow 13. VayneAuthority 15. JarJarDrinks replaced by austinmcc 16. Pandain Assuming there are three shots tomorrow and they all hit town, we will be at 4-2-1, no? Scum will have to go after Koshi or Confirmed people. This is Koshi, VE, Oats, and Rayn . Confirmed Town should all use their vests tonight to try and avoid a scenario where scum and town numbers are even and there aren't any confirmed town. Then scum can use their numbers and win with even a single misplaced vote. + Show Spoiler + Admittedly it's more tricky then that assuming scum aren't in contact with each other It's important especially if you're confirmed town so we can win in end game. Unconfirmed people Do not use vests there is no reason to use vests . Koshi should not or at least scum can't really tell what he's aiming to do, so allow him the possibility to shoot one of the unconfirmed. If you use a vest and he shoots you, then you're scum and we lynch you. Anyone disagree ? I doubt scum will go after each other until they're numbers are close. If they are in contact I can't see the MCB guy winning given 2 v 1. I think a lot of this is common sense but I want to get this out there. Still have to read Austin and WoS sigh. I don't disagree here. I would love for scum to shoot into unconfirmed people and make me find the Banger out of the remainders. | ||
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But sure, if you want to fuck off to prove some sort of point by all means - you know I'm not gonna judge you, as that's one of my signature moves. | ||
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On September 30 2013 00:40 Palmar wrote: Probably Town Koshi - Probably town, if scum he played getting hit by the RNG pretty well. VisceraEyes - Keep an eye out on how much of a leadership role he takes. He was very townie early on in day 1, but I'm somewhat unsure how much of a role he truly played in the yamato lynch. I need to re-read. If he starts fading into the background reconsider, but for now town. Oatsmaster - Confrontational and an asshole, completely useless too, so that kinda fits him being town Blazinghand - Probably town, needs to be more in the forefront. WaveofShadow - Too active, too free-flowing and engages easily with people to be scum. Pandain - His case was ok. If he keeps trying he's town. Pandain is awful as scum anyway so he'll fuck up sooner or later if he is. Haven't analysed/read at all: Chairman Ray Mr. Cheesecake VayneAuthority austinmcc Only done a quick read/null: strongandbig - if I die he's less likely (only slightly) to be scum (unlikely his scumteam would shoot me after he spends time creating a case on me), but I have no idea really, I think his case was wrong because of bads, not because of malicious. ShiaoPi - One of the best candidates for re-reading. He hasn't done anything worth noting all game, at least that I noticed. I'm going to look into him when I have time. raynpelikoneet - Don't really know. Grackaroni - Again, read some, no conclusion Scummy people hiro protagonist - His start was awfully conservative. I still haven't spent time looking at his later posts, but yeah. RebirthOfLeGenD - Said he'd catch up, didn't. FirmTofu - See my earlier analysis. Haven't paid attention to him since. This was Palmar's big reads post. Posting it for my benefit. | ||
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The fact of the matter is that the rest of this game is going to be difficult, and I'm trying to explore ALL options. I made a post that explains why I think you're more likely Banger than CR and Pandain. If I'm wrong then fine, but at least I know that I was wrong after reading and coming to my own conclusion. Association is HOW you find mafia, so no I'm not going to just 'drop the association cases' because that's fucking dumb. If you think they should hold less weight, then that's your prerogative. Right now we have three flipped scum, so I'm going to look through their filters and the filters of everyone in the game to see how they all line up because that's how the fucking game is played. | ||
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On October 08 2013 09:23 VayneAuthority wrote: funny that you bring up weird relationships....cough pandain/austin cough hard defending each other this entire game and both tunneling me. 2 scum left. interesting There are three scum left. Not quite as interesting as you thought, maybe. | ||
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On October 08 2013 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote: And Austin was attacking him. This was the part I was interested in. s0Lstice put a LOT of effort into that claim. Go back and look at it - not for info, just to gaze upon its glory. It was everything I've ever wanted any of my fake-claims in the past to be. So WHY did he claim scum all of a sudden? | ||
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On October 08 2013 10:05 Pandain wrote: I assume VE it's because he messaged someone he thought was mafia and that person revealed him. Nonono, he claimed COP because of that. I mean why did he claim SCUM in the thread? | ||
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