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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 15:21 GMT
#4545
I have no idea what to say with regard to that theory - I don't know the costs. How does Koshi know that Payphone costs .5 KP?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 15:23 GMT
#4552
On October 08 2013 00:12 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 00:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Just look at it like this: if you remove the cop claims and me and yourself from the pool you have 7 people. If you believe that one of the cop claims is scum, that means that out of 7 people, 3 are scum.

3 scum and 4 townies. Out of Pandain, Oats, rayn, austin, Cheese, CR, VA, there are 4 townies and 3 scum. The odds are almost exactly the same as choosing between the cop claims.

But better odds w/cop claims by a little. And if we're looking for MCB you think we won't find it in solstice? I'm not sure why you think that honestly.


It's actually really simple. The MCB is alone now, and in order to win he's got to kill everyone on the other scumteam IN ADDITION to all the townies. I find it far more likely that the MCB would have used his KP to kill last night - he's got SO MANY people to kill before he can win, and using KP for anything BUT killing is only prolonging the game (which is bad for scum).

Now, don't ask me why if s0L is a Baller, he used the Payphone. I really honestly don't know his motivations. Maybe he was hoping to reach out to the final Banger in an attempt to work together. Maybe the whole intention was to counterclaim cop (though I doubt this as it was so messy and came out of nowhere). But in spite of it not making much sense, I find it more likely than the last Banger using Payphone.

Payphone is 0,5KP. He shot VE. Probably had to use Payphone or Molotov for 0,5. Gambled. Lost. ezpz.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 15:27 GMT
#4557
Yeah, and the s0L posts look much more like "I'm not a cop with this guy".

But Koshi is being really....closed to this whole thing. Like, he doesn't appear to want people to figure out the game. And he's ABSOLUTELY AGAINST lynching anyone but s0Lstice.

Ugh, this is such a weird situation.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 15:31 GMT
#4567
On October 08 2013 00:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 00:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah, and the s0L posts look much more like "I'm not a cop with this guy".

But Koshi is being really....closed to this whole thing. Like, he doesn't appear to want people to figure out the game. And he's ABSOLUTELY AGAINST lynching anyone but s0Lstice.

Ugh, this is such a weird situation.

VE do you at least agree with me that the objective 'right call' here based on counterclaim situation is to lynch Solstice?
Can we work together from there?

No objectively we should be bending our entire will to finding the last Banger and lynching him. But I get that you think those objectives are the same.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 19:50 GMT
#4870
On October 08 2013 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VisceraEyes and Oatsmaster

When you come back, read pages 233-238 before anything else and give your opinion on my actions during those pages before reading anything else!!!!

What am I looking for here? What do you want my comment on?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 19:53 GMT
#4874
I think if s0Lstice were less intelligent it would have been a pretty clever way to try and get more information - as it stands though s0Lstice is clearly not dumb and it wasn't ever going to really work. Not to mention that no matter what he says or the circumstances, because he's not on our team we have to take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Why are you asking? Like, do you just want affirmation that it wasn't totally retarded or something?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 19:55 GMT
#4878
Ahh...so you didn't want me to look at your actions, you wanted me to look at the actions of others. That's a different task friend.

Let me go take a look.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 20:09 GMT
#4902
Sigh.

So I'm still expecting 3 KP, unless the Banger tries something cute and does a driveby hoping to survive tomorrow.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 20:11 GMT
#4906
I like Vayne for final Banger deep down in my guts.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 20:19 GMT
#4911
It's pretty simple. The plan was obviously to get Koshi lynched. He wasn't particularly townie looking, and he never once mentioned anything he and hiro discussed in their QT...if they'd succeeded in getting Koshi lynched this game would be over for us come tomorrow.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 20:20 GMT
#4914
Look at the approach s0L took in trying to prove his towniness: about every other post he mentioned something hiro said or something RoL said...it was done that way specifically to make you think about what Koshi had said about hiro/RoL...which was, incidentally, nothing.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 20:25 GMT
#4919
On October 08 2013 05:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 05:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's pretty simple. The plan was obviously to get Koshi lynched. He wasn't particularly townie looking, and he never once mentioned anything he and hiro discussed in their QT...if they'd succeeded in getting Koshi lynched this game would be over for us come tomorrow.

.... Yeah, I was toying around and it wasn't really close.

S0lstice didn't do this to get me lynched.

But sure. It could be a reason. Dumbest idea 2013-2016.

This is why I fucking hate that you're confirmed cop now Koshi. You asked a question and I answered it and you're like "lolnope" without saying at all why you don't think that's the case.

I'm fucking done with you. Do what you gotta do tonight, but don't expect ANYTHING in the way of discourse with me. We're fucking done.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 20:33 GMT
#4930
Rayn who is the last Banger? I think VA.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 20:35 GMT
#4931
It's just you and me tonight Rayn...we're both dead tomorrow, and I don't trust Austin/Wave for tonight. You and I have to figure out who the last Banger is.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 21:12 GMT
#4939
On October 08 2013 05:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 05:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's just you and me tonight Rayn...we're both dead tomorrow, and I don't trust Austin/Wave for tonight. You and I have to figure out who the last Banger is.

WoS/Pandain with a small chance of VA (i'd say, from top of my head). I'll look at it before the deadline and give my opinion. Now i gtg.

I looked over Wave first. There's obviously the big push against the Palmar wagon - I think the most significant part about that action was the fact that he was doing so under the pretense "I don't want to sheep this wagon, I'm not sure of him being scum because I can't read him, etc etc"

But earlier in the game when people were talking about him he was actually TOWNIE on Palmar - or at least enough so to point at a couple of posts that he made on the matter. Observe:

On September 30 2013 07:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 07:19 Pandain wrote:
I think his responses are fine for the moment. He's not more scummy then FT.

Grack have you just been defending yourself or also reading into our alignments and if so what do you think.

I agree with this.
If people are looking into Palmar I wouldn't mind someone's thoughts on this:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 03:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 29 2013 02:59 Palmar wrote:
On September 29 2013 02:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Seriously though let's be fair here. Ego boost since last few games aside, I wouldn't call myself Ace or anything. I don't consider myself awful anymore but I think I'm decent.
LXI, in which we both played Palmar, was a horrible game for me and was still pretty early in my mafia career. I don't think I've had a game that bad since (maybe one where I smurfed). You can check my profile for my games if you'd like to see my performance in any of them.


Maybe. LXI is my baseline.

You played in Ego with me as well and I had Axle and Tunkeg nailed if I remember correctly. I was certainly capable of playing better than LXI even back then.

In any case, are you going to base all of your perceptions of my play on a game that occurred literally before the halfway point of my time on TL mafia? Because that would be terrible. Are you terrible, Palmar?

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 03:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 29 2013 03:15 Blazinghand wrote:
I'd vote you wos but my vote is needed on the yanato wagon

Well I'm flattered, but spoken for.
I think I had Palmar as town originally but now I'm curious. What kind of Palmar wouldn't bother putting in the effort to check my play in the months since I've played with him and base his read of me entirely on that?

I'm kinda thinking that's still town Palmar.



So during the FT push, why not state clearly that he had a townread on Palmar and that's why he didn't want to vote for him? Why make extra special sure that town knows that "I can't read Palmar for dicks"?

He literally never mentions SnB before he dies except to exclaim that he's "dropping bombs".

Overall, Banger score of 7.5/10. Moving on to Pandain.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 21:15 GMT
#4940
FT = Palmar obviously -.-
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 21:19 GMT
#4941
Oh and further on the subject of Wave, he was staunchly against lynching outside of the copclaims. Like, that's not much itself as others were seeing red too - but Wave was like revulsed by the idea. Argued with me when I was talking about finding the Banger being primary objective. Something to think about.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 21:27 GMT
#4943
Well you're a player that even if I explain to you in perfect terms why I think it's scummy, you'll still disagree because you're so much better than me anyway. Like Koshi. That's why I didn't include you in this in spite of you being confirmed town Oats...no offense.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 21:33 GMT
#4945
I'm saying that you're not convinced by the sound reasoning I've provided, so no amount of sound reasoning is going to convince you. Now stop, I'm trying to filter Pandain.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 07 2013 21:48 GMT
#4947
Early on Pandain had something of a scumread on Palmar, but then after SnB died it was IMMEDIATELY retracted..citing that his posting had been more logical and contributory. This persisted most of the day, even calling someone else's vote on Palmar "awful" obliquely. But that's it - until he switches over to Palmar when there's doubt surrounding whether FT would be lynched or not. But even with his vote on Palmar, he's trying to talk people out of lynching Palmar until the very end.

But at the end, he was firmly in favor of lynching Palmar. I'll be honest here - if Pandain is scum, this feels more like scum on the OPPOSITE side of the tracks from Palmar.

He hardly mentions SnB at all - aside from giving him a town read.

Banger Score: 5/10
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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