Thug Life Mini Mafia - Page 22

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 06 2013 20:27 GMT

#4314

Okay fine. I'll let you try to change my mind.

##Unvote

But I'm serious about having to leave. But I'll be watching from my phone.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 06 2013 20:29 GMT

#4317

Like I don't know what good it's going to do - half of the town thinks I'm irrational and incompetent, and won't listen to me. But whatever - if you can convince me that you're the cop then I won't vote to lynch you.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 06 2013 20:30 GMT

#4319

On October 07 2013 05:28 WaveofShadow wrote:

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On October 07 2013 05:26 s0Lstice wrote:

On October 07 2013 05:22 VisceraEyes wrote:

On October 07 2013 05:10 s0Lstice wrote:

On October 07 2013 04:52 VisceraEyes wrote:

On October 07 2013 04:50 Pandain wrote:
I have to go unfortunately but these were my reasons:

1. I had a town read on Koshi up until the s0lstice claim. I would have at least been suspicious of him, but he played exactly like a cop even denying that he's cop and then eventually acknowledging it.

2. He's been slowly confirming townies which is what a cop should do . Furthermore all his confirmations in VE, Rayn, and Oats(less on Oats) I have town reads on.

That logic makes sense if he's town.

On the other side of the coin we have s0Lstice, who is letting a confirmed liar confirm people as town and letting town lynch based on these confirmations. In the name of some plan to claim scum, hoping that town believes him and doesn't lynch the shit out of him. This is not how I expect a cop to act. Ever.

Our night actions do not break the rules by which you are judging me. On my side of the coin, you and WoS are confirmed, except we also killed a scum s&b.

I've already explained the thought processes behind why I chose to act the way i did in regards to Koshi. He 'confirmed' you, and then Rayn and oats. I didn't know what I thought of rayn, but I certainly didn't like Oats. This contributed to the change in opinion. I knew that if he indeed was going to be a townie acting as a cop to protect me he'd have to be fabricating night actions. Put yourself in my shoes for a second.

Oh s0L. Oh s0L. You have no idea. I've BEEN in your shoes. I've BEEN in crazy fucking claim situations like this before. Did I ever tell you about the time I was a detective and tried to convince town that one of my redchecks that flipped green was actually a DEATHMILLER? If you're town, I can assure you - no one understands the position you're in than me. But what you have to understand is that this all looks terribly suspect, and if you were actually the cop, this is something you would have HAD to factor in. The timing is suspicious, the circumstances are suspicious, EVERYTHING is suspicious about this. Surely you realize this.

Of course I realize it! Yet here I am fighting you. How ridiculous this is is a non-factor from my point of view because I. AM. RIGHT. I realize I set myself up to make this nearly impossible to tell the truth and have it look believable, but I'm gonna be climbing that mountain right up until lynch time because I owe it to the town to not just get frustrated and let you lynch the wrong guy.

Do not close your mind yet. Do not lay out a final decision. There is plenty of time.

And it's shit like this that makes me really REALLY mad at Koshi if he is town.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 06 2013 20:32 GMT

#4322

On October 07 2013 05:30 s0Lstice wrote:
Like, VE, you have a problem with me acting how I did as cop. Being a cop is fucking difficult. The only other time I've been 'blue' is in PTP where everyone was at least a little blue, and I basically got lynched day 1 there. It's just not a skill I have (right now anyway). I'll remind you too that I have NEVER been lynched. The two times where I've been even really close is here and PTP, both of which are related to blueness. This isn't a coincidence. At least do me a favor and go read my lone scum game that I have on my record and compare. It's Basterd Mini Mafia.

Then:

WHY WOULD YOU HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF AND YOUR READS ENOUGH TO THINK YOU CAN CATCH THE WHOLE SCUMTEAM?!?!

SOLSICE THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE - YOU'RE EXPECTING US TO BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE PLAYING THIS WAY AS A RESULT OF BEING NEWB BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF DOING NEXT-LEVEL MINDGAMES WITH THE ENTIRE OPPOSING FORCE!!! DO YOU NOT SEE HOW THIS IS A HUGE CONTRADICTION?!

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 06 2013 20:34 GMT

#4324

Austin even if I end up agreeing with you, we're not going to secure the votes required because ONE OF THE COP CLAIMS IS 100% SCUM.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 06 2013 20:41 GMT

#4337

Okay I'm heading out guys. Austin, homework. Assume that myself, Wave and you are all confirmed town. Come up with scumteams and a lynch target outside the cop claims.

Wave: you're on claim-duty. Pressure both claims, and get as much information out of BOTH of them as you can. This will help us out tomorrow IF we decide to leave them until tomorrow.

For myself, I'm going to be watching and thinking and considering and I'll post my thoughts on the situation with WELL enough time to swing the lynch if I think that's what we need to do.

And Shepherds we shall be For thee, my Lord, for thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee And teeming with souls shall it ever be. In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 06 2013 21:26 GMT

#4346

Austin find the last Banger. If you can find the last Banger I'll vote with you I promise.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 06 2013 21:32 GMT

#4347

Like here's my thought process:

In my opinion, the most beneficial thing we can do for town is to find the last Banger and remove that KP. I think this is of paramount importance, and EVERYONE in town should give their thoughts on that specific matter. Regardless of everything that's happening with the claims, the most important factor in prolonging the game is removing KP.

Now, regardless of what you think of the claims, it seems me that s0Lstice is NOT the last Banger. If thisthis is a bad assumption please explain why.

If we can find the last Banger in the next 23 hours, that's who we should lynch.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 06 2013 22:24 GMT

#4370

Showing your work isn't for my benefit friend. You have no idea how much I wish I could just trust you AND trust town to just sheep you if I just trust you. That's too much unnecessary trust. That's the kind of trust scum wants town to give them.

Showing your work is for the rest in town who see a counterclaim and thirst for mafia blood. I think it's highly unlikely that s0L is the last Banger regardless of alignment, and he's pretty unanimously the vote leader.

You're showing your work to save the town, not to convince me.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 06 2013 22:30 GMT

#4373

Austin this is important: why didn't you have a problem with the task involving assuming WoS is town?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 06 2013 22:38 GMT

#4375

Koshi I don't know what I think yet. That's why I'm having Austin do all this. I'm undecided still.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 06 2013 22:40 GMT

#4377

Like, I think it's unlikely because if he's wrong in his guess, he dies. The last Banger would more likely use his shot to kill...in order for him to win, he's gotta kill the other team too, not just townies. The last Banger has a MUCH longer road to victory...the three man team is within striking distance of winning - all they need is one mislynch and they've won.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 06 2013 22:54 GMT

#4380

On October 07 2013 07:49 Pandain wrote:
It's all good. Since I'm under suspicion I won't get shot tonight and then I'll lead town to victory tomorrow in an epic showdown.

Help us find last Banger.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 07 2013 13:43 GMT

#4502

##Vote: s0Lstice

Austin, thank you for trying, but as I suspected town is fucking set on this lynch.

s0Lstice if you're really the cop I hope you'll think twice before claiming scum as town again.

Ultimately I agree that s0Lstice is most likely scum, I just retain that I doubt he's the last Banger. Hopefully I'm wrong I guess.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 07 2013 15:02 GMT

#4515

Just look at it like this: if you remove the cop claims and me and yourself from the pool you have 7 people. If you believe that one of the cop claims is scum, that means that out of 7 people, 3 are scum.

3 scum and 4 townies. Out of Pandain, Oats, rayn, austin, Cheese, CR, VA, there are 4 townies and 3 scum. The odds are almost exactly the same as choosing between the cop claims.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 07 2013 15:09 GMT

#4523

On October 08 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote:

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But better odds w/cop claims by a little. And if we're looking for MCB you think we won't find it in solstice? I'm not sure why you think that honestly.

It's actually really simple. The MCB is alone now, and in order to win he's got to kill everyone on the other scumteam IN ADDITION to all the townies. I find it far more likely that the MCB would have used his KP to kill last night - he's got SO MANY people to kill before he can win, and using KP for anything BUT killing is only prolonging the game (which is bad for scum).

Now, don't ask me why if s0L is a Baller, he used the Payphone. I really honestly don't know his motivations. Maybe he was hoping to reach out to the final Banger in an attempt to work together. Maybe the whole intention was to counterclaim cop (though I doubt this as it was so messy and came out of nowhere). But in spite of it not making much sense, I find it more likely than the last Banger using Payphone.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 07 2013 15:11 GMT

#4525

On October 08 2013 00:08 Koshi wrote:

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And mine didn't??? DSQFDQFQSDFQDFQSDFQSDFQSDF

All you've been doing is coming in here and calling anyone retarded who doubts you. Now stop bitching and moaning and let people who actually care about trying to win try to win.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

October 07 2013 15:15 GMT

#4535

No one's picking on Koshi Pandain, I'm just asking him to stop calling Wave bad for questioning things that need questioning. No one is in here attacking Koshi's integrity, where did that defense of him even come from?!