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On October 06 2013 12:21 s0Lstice wrote:right, the WoS prius and why it makes sense I deferred a lot to hiro. Here's why: Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 11:54 s0Lstice wrote:
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s0Lstice 10/11 = 90.9091%
vivi57 11/13 = 84.6154%
Lazermonkey 9/11 = 81.8182%
kushm4sta 13/16 = 81.2500%
VayneAuthority 8/10 = 80.0000%
Adam4167 11/15 = 73.3333%
phagga 8/11 = 72.7273%
Johnnyspazz 8/11 = 72.7273%
mkfuba07 8/11 = 72.7273%
stop hogging all the blue, guys Really don't have a lot of experience in this area. hiro is also generally a really smart dude I found, and a super vet. He flopped around on WoS: Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 04:57 hiro protagonist wrote:
real quick before the deadline.
Most likely town: VE, WoS, Grack, Koshi, austin
null: Palmer, ryan, VA, CR.
People I once thought as town, but are now slightly scummy: SaB, Panda, Oats
Scummy: Shiao... damn, doin up this list makes me realize how little other strong scum reads I had... this going into the night after Shiao's lynch. hiro was a lil worried about being on WoS radar so he tried to muddy the waters a bit. after the deadline: Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 17:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
In regards to WoS:
yes I was wishy washy on FT. I, like you, hated how he posted "i give up" when SP flipped. Fact is if he doesn't start posting the way he did at the end of day 2, Im gonna want to lynch him.
I didnt have a scum read on you, you where leaning scum in my book. It wasnt a strong feeling, but I didnt like how when you came into the game with a "towns so bad" combined with your going along with RNG. It looked like you where trying not to contribute at the time. you have contributed alot more sense then, so I feel like you are likly town now. flip flopy, yes, but reads change.
The reason I put up my reads list is because I was catching up on the thread. after catch up some of my reads changed. Ill go into more detail come morning.
Wat.
When was hiro EVER on my radar aside from when VE told me to look at him?
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On October 06 2013 12:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol why the would cop walkie talkie some one on such a crucial night? lolno. good story but that is your flaw
I get that you think it's stupid, but I didn't. It's not whether YOU think it's stupid that matters, Vayne.
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I dunno man, I've done some counterclaiming in my time but there are so many holes and farfetched fabrications in here.
If you were really the cop you would honestly be able to prove it pretty easily imo.
I don't think I've ever seen a counterclaim fail from the person who is telling the truth and you look like you're going to fail.
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On October 06 2013 12:26 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:21 s0Lstice wrote:right, the WoS prius and why it makes sense I deferred a lot to hiro. Here's why: On September 27 2013 11:54 s0Lstice wrote:
Vanilla Percentage
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s0Lstice 10/11 = 90.9091%
vivi57 11/13 = 84.6154%
Lazermonkey 9/11 = 81.8182%
kushm4sta 13/16 = 81.2500%
VayneAuthority 8/10 = 80.0000%
Adam4167 11/15 = 73.3333%
phagga 8/11 = 72.7273%
Johnnyspazz 8/11 = 72.7273%
mkfuba07 8/11 = 72.7273%
stop hogging all the blue, guys Really don't have a lot of experience in this area. hiro is also generally a really smart dude I found, and a super vet. He flopped around on WoS: On October 02 2013 04:57 hiro protagonist wrote:
real quick before the deadline.
Most likely town: VE, WoS, Grack, Koshi, austin
null: Palmer, ryan, VA, CR.
People I once thought as town, but are now slightly scummy: SaB, Panda, Oats
Scummy: Shiao... damn, doin up this list makes me realize how little other strong scum reads I had... this going into the night after Shiao's lynch. hiro was a lil worried about being on WoS radar so he tried to muddy the waters a bit. after the deadline: On October 02 2013 17:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
In regards to WoS:
yes I was wishy washy on FT. I, like you, hated how he posted "i give up" when SP flipped. Fact is if he doesn't start posting the way he did at the end of day 2, Im gonna want to lynch him.
I didnt have a scum read on you, you where leaning scum in my book. It wasnt a strong feeling, but I didnt like how when you came into the game with a "towns so bad" combined with your going along with RNG. It looked like you where trying not to contribute at the time. you have contributed alot more sense then, so I feel like you are likly town now. flip flopy, yes, but reads change.
The reason I put up my reads list is because I was catching up on the thread. after catch up some of my reads changed. Ill go into more detail come morning. Wat. When was hiro EVER on my radar aside from when VE told me to look at him?
That's the point, it wasn't certain. We knew that hiro had said some negative things towards you in thread. What you say in response, in thread, publically is irrelevant in terms of the danger that a scum you would present to him if you took issue with his comments.
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On October 06 2013 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno man, I've done some counterclaiming in my time but there are so many holes and farfetched fabrications in here.
If you were really the cop you would honestly be able to prove it pretty easily imo.
I don't think I've ever seen a counterclaim fail from the person who is telling the truth and you look like you're going to fail.
That's because your mind is already made up. Also, this isn't a typical counter-claim, we haven't talked about Koshi yet. Like I said earlier, cool your tits.
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Ok solstice, so you say you wanted to 'try something.'
What was it exactly that you attempted to 'try,' to catch the whole scumteam?
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On October 06 2013 12:29 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno man, I've done some counterclaiming in my time but there are so many holes and farfetched fabrications in here.
If you were really the cop you would honestly be able to prove it pretty easily imo.
I don't think I've ever seen a counterclaim fail from the person who is telling the truth and you look like you're going to fail. That's because your mind is already made up. Also, this isn't a typical counter-claim, we haven't talked about Koshi yet. Like I said earlier, cool your tits.
Talk about it now.
Like right now.
You don't get time to try and come up with shit.
Short version.
Right now.
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On October 06 2013 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok solstice, so you say you wanted to 'try something.'
What was it exactly that you attempted to 'try,' to catch the whole scumteam?
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The thing is solstice, it SHOULD be a regular counterclaim at this point,.
You should be brimming with information and flying off the handle because you're so enraged that Koshi would even attempt such a thing.
THat's a fucking counterclaim.
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On October 06 2013 12:31 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok solstice, so you say you wanted to 'try something.'
What was it exactly that you attempted to 'try,' to catch the whole scumteam?
HOW.
I want you to outline this 'plan' of your specifically.
'Trying something' isn't good enough. What you did makes zero sense unless you actually had a prefabricated plan in mind.
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On October 06 2013 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:29 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno man, I've done some counterclaiming in my time but there are so many holes and farfetched fabrications in here.
If you were really the cop you would honestly be able to prove it pretty easily imo.
I don't think I've ever seen a counterclaim fail from the person who is telling the truth and you look like you're going to fail. That's because your mind is already made up. Also, this isn't a typical counter-claim, we haven't talked about Koshi yet. Like I said earlier, cool your tits. Talk about it now. Like right now. You don't get time to try and come up with shit. Short version. Right now.
Again, I don't have a fucking clue how to play blue. I don't really know how to act, my importance to town, and all that. I'm saying this not because I'm complaining, but because it should explain to you the weirdness of this.
I didn't counter claim Koshi because I ended up thinking that he was town fake claiming to protect me. It really boils down to that.
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Also I'm pretty mad because this means I was wrong about YOU TOO and my fucking towntell failed.
Ladies and gentlemen let it be known: I had zero reason to be cocky at the start of this game and I apologize.
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On October 06 2013 12:32 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno man, I've done some counterclaiming in my time but there are so many holes and farfetched fabrications in here.
If you were really the cop you would honestly be able to prove it pretty easily imo.
I don't think I've ever seen a counterclaim fail from the person who is telling the truth and you look like you're going to fail. That's because your mind is already made up. Also, this isn't a typical counter-claim, we haven't talked about Koshi yet. Like I said earlier, cool your tits. Talk about it now. Like right now. You don't get time to try and come up with shit. Short version. Right now. Again, I don't have a fucking clue how to play blue. I don't really know how to act, my importance to town, and all that. I'm saying this not because I'm complaining, but because it should explain to you the weirdness of this. I didn't counter claim Koshi because I ended up thinking that he was town fake claiming to protect me. It really boils down to that.
I can actually believe that somewhat.
Now onto your grand plan to catch the scumteam.
Go.
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On October 06 2013 12:22 Pandain wrote:
Summarize your qt in 3 minutes
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It was a weird time for the claim, I didn't know what to think.
Mafia Koshi: claims cop. worst result is an instant counterclaim and poof outed cop. couldn't really decide if i liked this trade. my abilities are powerful, but are they that powerful? best result is the real cop ends up thinking you are town, and are protecting him
town Koshi: claims cop to protect the real cop
these were the scenarios I considered
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On October 06 2013 12:34 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:32 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno man, I've done some counterclaiming in my time but there are so many holes and farfetched fabrications in here.
If you were really the cop you would honestly be able to prove it pretty easily imo.
I don't think I've ever seen a counterclaim fail from the person who is telling the truth and you look like you're going to fail. That's because your mind is already made up. Also, this isn't a typical counter-claim, we haven't talked about Koshi yet. Like I said earlier, cool your tits. Talk about it now. Like right now. You don't get time to try and come up with shit. Short version. Right now. Again, I don't have a fucking clue how to play blue. I don't really know how to act, my importance to town, and all that. I'm saying this not because I'm complaining, but because it should explain to you the weirdness of this. I didn't counter claim Koshi because I ended up thinking that he was town fake claiming to protect me. It really boils down to that. I can actually believe that somewhat. Now onto your grand plan to catch the scumteam. Go.
And I also eventually want to hear the long version of your thought process re: Koshi and why you had to wait to get to Koshi instead of just saying that from the start.
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On October 06 2013 12:34 Pandain wrote:
Our QT wasn't super busy. A lot of is was the discussion of our night actions, which are summarized pretty cleanly in my explanations of our night actions. Again, I was deferring to hiro a lot in his scum read. hiro posted his shiao case in there, hence my shiao vote.
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What are your thoughts on Koshi now?
Is he scum or not, and why?
And again, grand scumplan.
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On October 06 2013 12:34 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:32 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno man, I've done some counterclaiming in my time but there are so many holes and farfetched fabrications in here.
If you were really the cop you would honestly be able to prove it pretty easily imo.
I don't think I've ever seen a counterclaim fail from the person who is telling the truth and you look like you're going to fail. That's because your mind is already made up. Also, this isn't a typical counter-claim, we haven't talked about Koshi yet. Like I said earlier, cool your tits. Talk about it now. Like right now. You don't get time to try and come up with shit. Short version. Right now. Again, I don't have a fucking clue how to play blue. I don't really know how to act, my importance to town, and all that. I'm saying this not because I'm complaining, but because it should explain to you the weirdness of this. I didn't counter claim Koshi because I ended up thinking that he was town fake claiming to protect me. It really boils down to that. I can actually believe that somewhat. Now onto your grand plan to catch the scumteam. Go.
It's not that difficult really. I don't have to do much except act like scum. Do you disagree that the scum teams should be highly interested in coordinating at this time? I wanted to capitalize on that and act through coordinating night hits for the future as well as possible mislynches/votes. It wouldn't take much to get the other scum members, and if he is the 1, then hey at least theres 1 confirmed scum.
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On October 06 2013 12:23 Pandain wrote:
As in go post by post and paraphrase
You have all the time in the world for the other arguments which don't rely on time for you to construct bullshit
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