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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 05 2013 21:41 GMT
#3681
On October 06 2013 06:33 s0Lstice wrote:
whats this with vayne now austin?

maybe im being dumb but I'm not seeing how what he's saying is more scum than crazy
As I see things, sacrificing KP to vest oneself is silly.

Read the posts, but tl;dr is:

VA says Oats is a "prime bulletproof target", that the shot was bad, and that scumOats would have bulletproofed

Koshi said he had no shot. Right until the last minute, it was POSSIBLE he was being tricksy but seemed unlikely given how open he's been about his actions.

GODDAMN I CANNOT TL;DR TO SAVE MY LIFE

So the only shots that mafia would be EXPECTING are from scum

(1) If oats is on the three-man team...WHY DOES THE ONE MAN TEAM SHOOT HIM? There are confirmed townies. There's the chance to get a drive-by the next night. Oats is a possible mislynch. WHY WOULD THE ONE DUDE SHOOT OATS? Makes no sense.

(2) If oats is on the one-man team...WHY DOES THE THREE MAN TEAM SHOOT OATS? Same thing. Confirmed townies. Drive-by option. GREAT MISLYNCH. WHY SHOOT OATS?


Fact is, nobody thought Koshi had a shot. It was a paranoid thought, perhaps, for those of us super paranoid, but never even DISCUSSED or HINTED AT. So the only shots expected last night were mafia.

And VA is suggesting that MAFIA OATS would have been a great target for a MAFIA SHOT, so much so that OATS WOULD HAVE BULLETPROOFED JUST IN CASE, SACCING KP TO DO SO.

Mafia, of either team, have NO INCENTIVE TO SHOOT TOWN OATS. HE IS A GREAT MISLYNCH. HE'S CLEARLY BEING SET UP YESTERDAY.

MAFIA WOULD NOT SHOOT OATS EVARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
Fe fi fo fum.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 05 2013 21:42 GMT
#3682
On October 06 2013 06:40 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 06:37 Koshi wrote:
I am sad VA doesnt love me for shooting his scumread.
But yeah, dnu what is up with VA atm.


can I ask why you have been such a meek confirmed cop? you could pretty much run this town however you want and you seem to have no desire to be a leader.

Is this question designed to find scum in some fashion?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 05 2013 21:44 GMT
#3683
Not everyone can even attempt to try and herd a town, never mind actually be successful at it.
I've only done so like...once or twice.
Maybe.
And even then not for very long.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 05 2013 21:44 GMT
#3684
Besides not making sense, VA saying it was a "bad shot" when NOBODY KNEW KOSHI COULD SHOOT is

silly

designed to undermine koshi

A STATEMENT INDICATING THAT HE IS DISAPPOINTED THAT KOSHI WOULD SHOOT OATS WHEN WE NOW KNOW THAT OATS IS TOWN WHICH IS A GOOD THING. GOOD THINGS ARE GOOD AND MAKE US HAPPY. GOOD THINGS MAKE SCUM SAD.
Fe fi fo fum.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 05 2013 21:44 GMT
#3685
Yeah mafia wouldn't shoot Oats VA is being ridiculous.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 05 2013 21:44 GMT
#3686
Considering how successful Koshi has been so far, I'd say he's doing a fucking great job as is.
I just wish SOME OF OUR CONFIRMED TOWNIES (*ahemRaynahem*) would, you know, help us find scum.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 05 2013 21:45 GMT
#3687
On October 06 2013 06:41 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 06:33 s0Lstice wrote:
whats this with vayne now austin?

maybe im being dumb but I'm not seeing how what he's saying is more scum than crazy
As I see things, sacrificing KP to vest oneself is silly.

Read the posts, but tl;dr is:

VA says Oats is a "prime bulletproof target", that the shot was bad, and that scumOats would have bulletproofed

Koshi said he had no shot. Right until the last minute, it was POSSIBLE he was being tricksy but seemed unlikely given how open he's been about his actions.

GODDAMN I CANNOT TL;DR TO SAVE MY LIFE

So the only shots that mafia would be EXPECTING are from scum

(1) If oats is on the three-man team...WHY DOES THE ONE MAN TEAM SHOOT HIM? There are confirmed townies. There's the chance to get a drive-by the next night. Oats is a possible mislynch. WHY WOULD THE ONE DUDE SHOOT OATS? Makes no sense.

(2) If oats is on the one-man team...WHY DOES THE THREE MAN TEAM SHOOT OATS? Same thing. Confirmed townies. Drive-by option. GREAT MISLYNCH. WHY SHOOT OATS?


Fact is, nobody thought Koshi had a shot. It was a paranoid thought, perhaps, for those of us super paranoid, but never even DISCUSSED or HINTED AT. So the only shots expected last night were mafia.

And VA is suggesting that MAFIA OATS would have been a great target for a MAFIA SHOT, so much so that OATS WOULD HAVE BULLETPROOFED JUST IN CASE, SACCING KP TO DO SO.

Mafia, of either team, have NO INCENTIVE TO SHOOT TOWN OATS. HE IS A GREAT MISLYNCH. HE'S CLEARLY BEING SET UP YESTERDAY.

MAFIA WOULD NOT SHOOT OATS EVARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.


I already answered this. If you actually thought koshi didn't have a shot you don't know how to setup speculate. I have already addressed earlier that the "loose cannon" cop would have lethal force and the "good" cop would have precision shot. makes perfect sense. You just look scummy with this shit.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 05 2013 21:46 GMT
#3688
now please address how you still think pandain tunneling me and protecting FT makes him town when I have proven the exact opposite to be true. still waiting on that
I come in for the scraps
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 05 2013 21:46 GMT
#3689
On October 06 2013 06:40 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 06:37 Koshi wrote:
I am sad VA doesnt love me for shooting his scumread.
But yeah, dnu what is up with VA atm.


can I ask why you have been such a meek confirmed cop? you could pretty much run this town however you want and you seem to have no desire to be a leader.

I am no leader.
I am the Batman.
I had a good night of sleep.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 05 2013 21:46 GMT
#3690
There's plenty that makes Austin look scummy to me, but not this imo.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 05 2013 21:46 GMT
#3691
On October 06 2013 06:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 06:40 s0Lstice wrote:
On October 06 2013 06:37 Koshi wrote:
I am sad VA doesnt love me for shooting his scumread.
But yeah, dnu what is up with VA atm.


can I ask why you have been such a meek confirmed cop? you could pretty much run this town however you want and you seem to have no desire to be a leader.

Is this question designed to find scum in some fashion?


not really. satisfying some paranoia that Wave made well up in me with his comment on Koshi
ATOBTTR
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 05 2013 21:47 GMT
#3692
On October 06 2013 06:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
now please address how you still think pandain tunneling me and protecting FT makes him town when I have proven the exact opposite to be true. still waiting on that

I'd like to hear this too.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 05 2013 21:47 GMT
#3693
On October 06 2013 06:46 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 06:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 06 2013 06:40 s0Lstice wrote:
On October 06 2013 06:37 Koshi wrote:
I am sad VA doesnt love me for shooting his scumread.
But yeah, dnu what is up with VA atm.


can I ask why you have been such a meek confirmed cop? you could pretty much run this town however you want and you seem to have no desire to be a leader.

Is this question designed to find scum in some fashion?


not really. satisfying some paranoia that Wave made well up in me with his comment on Koshi

Sorry, can't help it bro.
I'm always like dat.

Out for dinnarz now!
Be back in a couple
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 05 2013 21:47 GMT
#3694
On October 06 2013 06:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
There's plenty that makes Austin look scummy to me, but not this imo.


You don't think him jumping on a town mistake at what is basically a desperation day for scum is scummy?
I come in for the scraps
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 05 2013 21:50 GMT
#3695
On October 06 2013 06:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 06:41 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 06:33 s0Lstice wrote:
whats this with vayne now austin?

maybe im being dumb but I'm not seeing how what he's saying is more scum than crazy
As I see things, sacrificing KP to vest oneself is silly.

Read the posts, but tl;dr is:

VA says Oats is a "prime bulletproof target", that the shot was bad, and that scumOats would have bulletproofed

Koshi said he had no shot. Right until the last minute, it was POSSIBLE he was being tricksy but seemed unlikely given how open he's been about his actions.

GODDAMN I CANNOT TL;DR TO SAVE MY LIFE

So the only shots that mafia would be EXPECTING are from scum

(1) If oats is on the three-man team...WHY DOES THE ONE MAN TEAM SHOOT HIM? There are confirmed townies. There's the chance to get a drive-by the next night. Oats is a possible mislynch. WHY WOULD THE ONE DUDE SHOOT OATS? Makes no sense.

(2) If oats is on the one-man team...WHY DOES THE THREE MAN TEAM SHOOT OATS? Same thing. Confirmed townies. Drive-by option. GREAT MISLYNCH. WHY SHOOT OATS?


Fact is, nobody thought Koshi had a shot. It was a paranoid thought, perhaps, for those of us super paranoid, but never even DISCUSSED or HINTED AT. So the only shots expected last night were mafia.

And VA is suggesting that MAFIA OATS would have been a great target for a MAFIA SHOT, so much so that OATS WOULD HAVE BULLETPROOFED JUST IN CASE, SACCING KP TO DO SO.

Mafia, of either team, have NO INCENTIVE TO SHOOT TOWN OATS. HE IS A GREAT MISLYNCH. HE'S CLEARLY BEING SET UP YESTERDAY.

MAFIA WOULD NOT SHOOT OATS EVARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.


I already answered this. If you actually thought koshi didn't have a shot you don't know how to setup speculate. I have already addressed earlier that the "loose cannon" cop would have lethal force and the "good" cop would have precision shot. makes perfect sense. You just look scummy with this shit.

Good cop:
PS
Ambulance x2

Bad cop:
Prius
Lethal shot x2

Rest is for both.

To easy your mind VA.
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 05 2013 21:52 GMT
#3696
Koshi can you explain to me succinctly why you think VA is town?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 05 2013 21:56 GMT
#3697
On October 06 2013 06:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
now please address how you still think pandain tunneling me and protecting FT makes him town when I have proven the exact opposite to be true. still waiting on that
Read. Filter. + Show Spoiler +
On October 04 2013 08:23 austinmcc wrote:
Pandain looks townier for all this jazz. Even if he's trying to hard defend FT, he's putting a lot of work into it for 0 reward. That feels townie.

I like VE lynch. I like Palmar lynch. I like solstice posting more.

I still don't like Koshi.

VE and Palmar both fall under similar rubrick, where they are active at times (VE D1, Palmar part of D1, time to argue with Rayn) but generally absent and not affecting the game at all. They've got bulletproof vests (unless they're scum). Palmar smells with his being entirely ambivalent about the lynch, never pushing anything, and generally just sitting in the background.

VE smells for basically doing jack, smells slightly slightly slightly for pushing Hiro so hard but that could be perfectly legitimate, but generally just being a nothingmaster.

Palmar also generally absent as far as DOING things goes, being more than just a presence. Some activity D1, some fighting with Rayn, but otherwise just ambivalence about a lynch and ambivalence about the game in general.

In the interest of having only one Pa- poster

##vote: Palmar

I think that leaving votes on FT and just mucking about "maybe FT maybe not FT" is a bad way to spend this day (Just like it was a bad way for me to afk 24 hours of it). If we just chat about FT and argue about him, we're losing a day and I honestly think that's a mislynch. FT has done diddly in response to pressure, yes. It makes him look worse, yes. But I don't actually think he's scum, and even if he is, there are....other scum? It's more productive to chase other scum right now, imo, if that makes sense.

Solstice, keep posting.
On October 04 2013 08:30 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
actually it makes him scummier austin, but I still can't say anything. ffs...
He's not even hard defending though, he's hard defending WITH VIGOR.

I don't know pandain's play from Adam's, but in general I find someone who's going back to past games and posting about them, actually using them, as well as posting this much and this hard about someone, to be a townie thang. Especially when he's getting NO traction with it, there's currently no payoff, nobody talking with him, nobody to convince, it's just posting a read into a vacuum and hoping to do something with it.

You find it defending el scumbuddiero? Or just a ton of activity on a single subject concerning a read you disagree with?
On October 05 2013 05:31 austinmcc wrote:
I do not want to kill Pandain next. While he did try and skirt Palmar as the alternative to FT, he put in so much fanatical work that I think he would have given up sooner/done less as scum.
On October 05 2013 09:35 austinmcc wrote:
Scum may defend townies for points, but scum defending FT THAT hard is something I don't see. Once you call him town, try to push FT = town for a bit, you've done your job as scum. Pandain's posts on FT are so over-the-top and so constant that I really don't like him for scum.
On October 05 2013 10:22 austinmcc wrote:
If Pandain were scum, and a MCB no less, then this would be QUITE out of place:

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 02:53 Pandain wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Palmar

##Unvote
##Vote VA


There now he should be in the lead


Based on a faulty vote count of mine, he voted/unvoted so that Palmar would get lynched over FT (at the time).
On October 06 2013 05:00 austinmcc wrote:
Okay. Some thoughts in case I get double-stacked. Koshi/VE/Rayn town means 8 unknowns. Of those 8 unknown, 4 are mafia. For every townie, you can remove yourself, you're looking at 3 townies/4 mafia remaining. 1 mafia flying solo now, one full team.

I eliminate myself.

Pandain
I eliminate Pandain, you can see why in my filter, but overall it's the effort and the push just to try and save a townie. IF VA flips mafia, look at Pandain and see whether you think he's town or bussing, but I think anyone who pushes super hard to lynch Pandain without knowing whether VA is mafia or not is RIDIKKEROUS/mafia. + Show Spoiler +
Anyone who pushes Pandain RIGHT NOW is saying he's mafia, putting on a big show, trying to get town points for saving a townie (WITHIN THIS GAME). But here's the thing, what they're NOT saying is that he tried to push the lynch on VA. He didn't just say "Don't lynch FT." He ALSO said "lynch VA." THIS IS IMPORTANT. Anyone who doesn't mention this, doesn't factor this in, isn't really viewing Pandain fully. Just consider this, would your read on Pandain change based on VA's flip? If so, if you think Pandain fits the full team remaining, then VA flipping scum would mean Pandain probably HARD bussing VA, actively pushing him for lynch. I don't like that scenario.

So more than just generally thinking Pandain is town for his D3 play, I think that a push on Pandain is crappy/somewhat suspicious if people aren't looking at VA as well. ESPECIALLY anyone scummy on VA but also pushing Pandain, if anyone fits that bill (I haven't checked right now), then they are VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY SCUMMY. Look at all those very-s.


So for me, Pandain.

Great. Now we're down to 2/4.

Oats
Oats is sitting on his ass doing next-to-nothing. He's EITHER mafia or sweet sweet mislynch material. But the line between the two is thin. Both sides are legitimate. Don't lynch him tomorrow, please please please. I'm assuming at this point that, either way, he doesn't redeem himself. I both still have him on the slightly townie side of the line because of his posting AND think that if you ask yourself, WWMD, oats is a prime prime prime mislynch target.

Make them work for a mislynch. Pull the rug out, make them find someone else, someone that hasn't been primed with bits and bits of suspicion and who can be argued about. It's way too easy to call oats mafia right now. IF oats is town, force mafia to work at getting someone else lynched. If he's mafia, there are 4 of em, find another on.

Oats too cheery and too playful with Palmar on D1 to be on that team. Cheesecake's post was BUTT because IF oats is town, that's exactly what mafia needs to do. Point to all the times oats utters the word "Palmar", without adding any context, and without realizing that HOLY CRAP THAT'S A LOT OF MENTIONS AND A LOT OF DIRECT ASSOCIATION AND MAYBE THIS IS NOT A TEAM. I think it's low-hanging fruit that, when picked, tastes like poopoo fruit. And cheesecake picked that poopoo fruit and tried to feed it to you. Don't eat the poopoo fruit. Oats probably town, maybe mafia, but overall just not what should happen TOMORROW, and not on Palmar's team.

If ANYTHING, oats's posts on D1 if he's mafia show he's other team, because of how he's goading Palmar and rayn into flinging shit at each other. Neither on his team, he doesn't care, lynch either of em or get em to argue, no skin off his back. Just keep fanning the flames between em and enjoy. If he's mafia, he's non-Palmar.

And really, he's got some townie-minded posts, he says throwaway crap like this:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 03:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yo! Im not scum.

I Still kinda wanna lynch CR for being so totally clean with his posts and saying a lotta weird shit inside.

he's town on my list.

*********HEY HEY IF I DIE AND THEN OATS DIES AND HE IS TOWN YOU NEED TO REMEMBER THIS POST. OATS, IF TOWN, = EASY MISLYNCH. LOOK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN START PUSHING HIM AND MAYBE AVOIDING OTHER PEOPLE YOU'VE SEEN FLIP MAFIA************

Down to 1/4

WoS
Everyone is reading his posts overnight and going "So town." Yeah, they look townie. But he's played an entire game, not just tonight. Look at his Palmar read. Look at his actions right before the Palmar lynch.

He can't read Palmar. Over and over and over can't read can't read. Except he DOES have these weak leanings, when really pushed he'll say think town, thought town now a little scummier, etc. etc. It's not that he can't read Palmar, it's a mix of "I'm not good at Palmar, but here's what I think, but maybe I'm wrong, who knows, not gonna bother, etc. etc. etc." It's a scummy way of dealing with a read on Palmar.

And AT lynch time, he's calling Palmar scum but trying to shunt the lynch away. Again, I don't care how townie he looks right now. That is scummy scummyumpkins.

However, here's the deal. I like him way more as THIRD SCUM than I do as other team. I think? So DO NOT LYNCH HIM TOMORROW IF I DIE. If he's not third scum, he suddenly looks a good bit less scummy (I think!? Other team still probably doesn't want Palmar lynched if they can help it). Don't go for him tomorrow. If you find third scum, re-evaluate. Make him keep working.

CR
Oh yeah lynch this dude tomorrow. He's not been newbie. He's been near useless, despite getting lynched for contributions in other game that people found scummy. His posts all avoid direct scumhunting. He never casually posts.

Lynch this dude. Lynch him.



I RAN OUT OF TIME BOLLOCKS.

If Oats town, cheese scum. That one post does it.

SOME OTHER PEOPLE ARE ALSO SCUM

THIS POST SUCKS SO MUCH AS A LAST MINUTE POST WTF


Also, I read your last couple posts and I see that you think I'm scum with pandain.

If nothing else, hoooolyyyyy crap. He wants to lynch you yesterday. He wants to lynch you in the face. You have some votes. Some people will vote for you over Palmar, moreover, as an FT alternative.

You know who was really pushing for Palmar? You know who was arguing with Pandain and saying Pandain should be on Palmar and NOT you?

(Hint: It was me)

So, effectively, at this point what you are arguing is that TWO scum players had townreads on a dude (FT). They argued that he SHOULDN'T BE LYNCHED. One scum player, pandain, argued that VA, a poor old innocent townie, SHOULD. The other scum player, me, argued that Palmar (who flipped scum) should be lynched, not VA. They had a lot of back and forth. There are posts. You can read them. You think we both saved a townie, tried to save a townie (because we were arguing before this modkill stuff came up), and i actively argued with another scum player to lynch scum over poor poor townie VA.

The team you apparently think exists is riddikerous.

Read the hint. If you're actually town, you think I argued


Fe fi fo fum.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 05 2013 21:59 GMT
#3698
On October 06 2013 06:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Koshi can you explain to me succinctly why you think VA is town?

Because he pretends to have figured out the game or be close to figure out since the start of the game. While he hasn't. I assocciate this behaviour with town vayne. There are more thingies like that. I am like on 65% town.

Need to lynch Pandain if he doesnt play the day 4 of his life.
I had a good night of sleep.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 05 2013 22:00 GMT
#3699
lol what? that spoilered post doesnt answer my question at all.

and if you honestly expect me to believe that scumteams dont argue in thread then you must be thinking your talking to chairman ray or something.

I just spent half of golden sun arguing about shit with grackaroni and we were both scum.
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 05 2013 22:04 GMT
#3700
On October 06 2013 07:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol what? that spoilered post doesnt answer my question at all.

and if you honestly expect me to believe that scumteams dont argue in thread then you must be thinking your talking to chairman ray or something.

I just spent half of golden sun arguing about shit with grackaroni and we were both scum.
Your question doesn't need answering. You want to know why x and y make Pandain town.

Your post presumes that my townread is based on that.

I don't care about that at all.

He's town for the reasons in my filter. You KNOW if read my filter that I think he's town, and I think he's town for different reasons.

No. It doesn't answer you question. Because your question is "Why do you think x makes pandain town?" When it turns out I don't care about x at all, and you'd know that if you read my filter.
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