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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
And we pretty much already narrowed down who's town and not so the game is pretty much set which means they can't rely on mislynches. Only mislynch they could push is on me or S0lstice, but even S0lstice has a slight chance of pushing scum so it's not too bad. It's town who has to take the effort to find the last team. | ||
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Pandain
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VisceraEyes
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On October 05 2013 08:26 Pandain wrote: I 100% agree Vayne is scum that doesn't make him the best lynch. The only way you can convince me of a better lynch is if you can find SnB/Palmar's partner. I think. | ||
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Pandain
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Mr. Cheesecake
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VayneAuthority
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VayneAuthority
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Pandain
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On October 05 2013 08:29 VayneAuthority wrote: im convinced this is just a ploy by VE to stay alive, nothing else really makes sense You think he's the last member? | ||
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VayneAuthority
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austinmcc
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austinmcc
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On October 05 2013 08:32 VayneAuthority wrote: no, that he's just saying stupid shit so scum doesnt NK him tonight Explain how it's stupid please. We've established that you think it's retarded AND stupid, can you maybe explain why you think so? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On October 05 2013 08:03 Pandain wrote: Rayn isn't scum if Koshi says he's town 100% as cop that means he's town. This 100% this. We can definitely narrow it down in many ways. Early people on palmer = automatic exclusion. No reason to bus a teamamte when you already lost one. This includes S0lstice and Austin, and me. Which leaves the following members: Vayne(unlikely since he could have stayed on FT) Mr. Cheesecake: Why come in at all? Just stay afk with a vote on FT and no one would suspect you. VE: Is town in my eyes Oats: Thought Palmar was town, was present an hour 15 minutes before lynch. (Tried to?) pushed WoS lynch. Wave of Shadows: Possible. Didn't want to lynch Palmar. In my eyes it would be Oats as the last member of the mafia team. He fits the description. WoS, Cheesecake, and Vayne as the last remaining scum on the other team. It makes since that the other scum team would want to kill the other team, and WoS incorrectly believed but believed anyway that there was a connection between SnB and FT, which makes sense for him to push FT then despite me clearly showing he's town. He wasn't really trying to scum hunt in my eyes, he was trying to find the other team. I simply don't actually believe that he was just trying to lynch any scum. Cheesecake was afk the whole time until the vote to secure a lynch on Palmar, and Vayne is scummy as I've already mentioned. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
I'll provide reasons why I'm probably not mafia: Helped get Palmar lynched and have priority, advocated him over FT, tried to save townie, etc.... | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Pandain
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I really think WoS and Vayne are on the same team. You're right in that he wouldn't have switched to FT, however. Really thoughts Oats was conclusive and still think he's the more reliable as Oats is very inconsistant on Palmar which tends to be a sign of scum thought. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 05 2013 08:38 VisceraEyes wrote: It's a combination of things. I'll make a too-large post in later tonight or later this cycle. Let's suppose that I agree and think that he's scum - what makes you sure he's Palmar's partner? Don't scum shy away from mentioning their partners most of the time? Like - bringing attention to them consistently doesn't seem a very powerful strategy to me. I'd be more inclined to believe he's on the opposing team if he's scum. There are a couple things that made me think he would be bros with Palmar if Palmar was scum. Off a quick reread but without the big post: (1) The WAY that he fought the Palmar lynch. Palmar maybe scum, but I can't read the guy. I can never read the guy. Palmar maybe scum, but I wouldn't lynch him over my other scum suspects. Palmar maybe scum, but let's switch onto Oats? Oats scum guys, let's switch Oats over Palmar. At no point does he step in front of the lynch, but he's always trying to drive it sideways. Maybe we lynch someone other than Palmar. Maybe if we swap off FT we swap onto someone else. I'm not saying Palmar isn't scum gaiz, but ... I can't read him. Can never read him. Ask me for a read? I can't read him, maybe he's whatever. (2) There are a lot of playful WoS/Palmar posts. Not bussing. Just them joking about some bad game WoS played, how he's so good but not Ace now. Neither is really doing anything to read the other. They just sort of dance with each other for no reason. ***THIS IS NOT A PARTICULARLY GREAT REASON I KNOW THAT*** (3) Oat's specific read on Palmar at points in the game. He started off apparently townish, without ever really having any specific justification. His read, if you follow it, is never anything particularly specific, and always hidden behind "I can't read Palmar kkkk" (4) It may sound dumb, but this post - + Show Spoiler + On October 05 2013 00:41 WaveofShadow wrote: Palmar I have a question for you. The emphasis here is that decent townies recognise good solutions when they're presented to them. Unfortunately way too many townies atm don't take the time to assess and appreciate the correct answers given to them by strong townies (or just townies who are correct and making good arguments), and instead go off and do their own (incorrect) thing. The bolded section is something marv wrote. Do you think this may be relevant to the current situation at all? (5) WoS never spoke about snb. Once said he was "dropping bombs," but nothing beyond that. Snb, in turn, likes wos's case on FT, mentions it like 3-4 times, but never ever speaks of any sort of read on WoS. I know snb didn't exactly chat about a boatload of people, but neither mentions the other at all really, despite SnB always noting he liked WoS's case. Call it mostly 1, with a little 4-5 mixed in. | ||
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