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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 23:26 GMT
#3301
I don't think they really will try, with all the bulletproof vests it makes sense to keep more KP in the game else it's a 7 v. 3 with one kp for mafia.

And we pretty much already narrowed down who's town and not so the game is pretty much set which means they can't rely on mislynches. Only mislynch they could push is on me or S0lstice, but even S0lstice has a slight chance of pushing scum so it's not too bad.

It's town who has to take the effort to find the last team.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 23:26 GMT
#3302
I 100% agree Vayne is scum that doesn't make him the best lynch.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 04 2013 23:27 GMT
#3303
On October 05 2013 08:26 Pandain wrote:
I 100% agree Vayne is scum that doesn't make him the best lynch.

The only way you can convince me of a better lynch is if you can find SnB/Palmar's partner. I think.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 23:28 GMT
#3304
Read my post above, I narrowed it down to Oats.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 04 2013 23:28 GMT
#3305
Im pretty satisfied if we lynched into a pool thats not me and not confirmed town.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 04 2013 23:29 GMT
#3306
im convinced this is just a ploy by VE to stay alive, nothing else really makes sense
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 04 2013 23:31 GMT
#3307
if it's not, it is a decent nomination for worst case of all time if that is a thing
I come in for the scraps
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 23:31 GMT
#3308
On October 05 2013 08:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
im convinced this is just a ploy by VE to stay alive, nothing else really makes sense


You think he's the last member?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 04 2013 23:32 GMT
#3309
no, that he's just saying stupid shit so scum doesnt NK him tonight
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 04 2013 23:37 GMT
#3310
I don't like oats for scum. I don't like oats for last scum on that team. Lemme poke around WoS and figure out if I can see what I was seeing, because I actually liked oats/palmar same team. Didn't know palmar would flip snb's team though.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 04 2013 23:37 GMT
#3311
oats/palmar = wos/palmar*
Fe fi fo fum.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 04 2013 23:38 GMT
#3312
Let's suppose that I agree and think that he's scum - what makes you sure he's Palmar's partner? Don't scum shy away from mentioning their partners most of the time? Like - bringing attention to them consistently doesn't seem a very powerful strategy to me. I'd be more inclined to believe he's on the opposing team if he's scum.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 04 2013 23:38 GMT
#3313
On October 05 2013 08:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
no, that he's just saying stupid shit so scum doesnt NK him tonight

Explain how it's stupid please. We've established that you think it's retarded AND stupid, can you maybe explain why you think so?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 23:38 GMT
#3314
On October 05 2013 08:03 Pandain wrote:
Rayn isn't scum if Koshi says he's town 100% as cop that means he's town.
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 05:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
I realized something.
I don't know if tbhis is even really possible but we SHOULD try and find the last one of those motor city guys tomorrow to lower KP.


This 100% this.

We can definitely narrow it down in many ways. Early people on palmer = automatic exclusion. No reason to bus a teamamte when you already lost one. This includes S0lstice and Austin, and me.

Which leaves the following members:
Vayne(unlikely since he could have stayed on FT)
Mr. Cheesecake: Why come in at all? Just stay afk with a vote on FT and no one would suspect you.
VE: Is town in my eyes
Oats: Thought Palmar was town, was present an hour 15 minutes before lynch. (Tried to?) pushed WoS lynch.

Wave of Shadows: Possible. Didn't want to lynch Palmar.

In my eyes it would be Oats as the last member of the mafia team. He fits the description.




WoS, Cheesecake, and Vayne as the last remaining scum on the other team.

It makes since that the other scum team would want to kill the other team, and WoS incorrectly believed but believed anyway that there was a connection between SnB and FT, which makes sense for him to push FT then despite me clearly showing he's town. He wasn't really trying to scum hunt in my eyes, he was trying to find the other team.

I simply don't actually believe that he was just trying to lynch any scum.

Cheesecake was afk the whole time until the vote to secure a lynch on Palmar, and Vayne is scummy as I've already mentioned.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 23:39 GMT
#3315
Only question for you guys is if I fit in there and if S0lstice fits in there.

I'll provide reasons why I'm probably not mafia:

Helped get Palmar lynched and have priority, advocated him over FT, tried to save townie, etc....
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 04 2013 23:41 GMT
#3316
Staying on FT wouldn't have saved Palmar, why are you excluding Vayne?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 23:44 GMT
#3317
Number of reasons

I really think WoS and Vayne are on the same team.

You're right in that he wouldn't have switched to FT, however.

Really thoughts Oats was conclusive and still think he's the more reliable as Oats is very inconsistant on Palmar which tends to be a sign of scum thought.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 04 2013 23:45 GMT
#3318
GET REVERSE-ASSOCIATIVE-TELLED, OTHER-SCUMTEAM!!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 04 2013 23:47 GMT
#3319
Serious though guys I gotta get some work done IRL. I'll catch y'all lata. Good hit.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 04 2013 23:55 GMT
#3320
On October 05 2013 08:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Let's suppose that I agree and think that he's scum - what makes you sure he's Palmar's partner? Don't scum shy away from mentioning their partners most of the time? Like - bringing attention to them consistently doesn't seem a very powerful strategy to me. I'd be more inclined to believe he's on the opposing team if he's scum.
It's a combination of things. I'll make a too-large post in later tonight or later this cycle.

There are a couple things that made me think he would be bros with Palmar if Palmar was scum. Off a quick reread but without the big post:

(1) The WAY that he fought the Palmar lynch. Palmar maybe scum, but I can't read the guy. I can never read the guy. Palmar maybe scum, but I wouldn't lynch him over my other scum suspects. Palmar maybe scum, but let's switch onto Oats? Oats scum guys, let's switch Oats over Palmar.

At no point does he step in front of the lynch, but he's always trying to drive it sideways. Maybe we lynch someone other than Palmar. Maybe if we swap off FT we swap onto someone else. I'm not saying Palmar isn't scum gaiz, but ... I can't read him. Can never read him. Ask me for a read? I can't read him, maybe he's whatever.

(2) There are a lot of playful WoS/Palmar posts. Not bussing. Just them joking about some bad game WoS played, how he's so good but not Ace now. Neither is really doing anything to read the other. They just sort of dance with each other for no reason. ***THIS IS NOT A PARTICULARLY GREAT REASON I KNOW THAT***

(3) Oat's specific read on Palmar at points in the game. He started off apparently townish, without ever really having any specific justification. His read, if you follow it, is never anything particularly specific, and always hidden behind "I can't read Palmar kkkk"

(4) It may sound dumb, but this post - + Show Spoiler +
On October 05 2013 00:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Palmar I have a question for you.
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 00:47 Palmar wrote:
The problem with intelligent townies is that they need to be right, and you need to be wrong. Non-top town players aren't terrible, they're just less adept at coming up with solutions, that doesn't mean they're incapable of recognizing a correct solution when it's presented to them by a top town player. Which is why killing town heads is so important.

One amazing town player, can make 10 decent townies good. Almost everyone in this game is at least decent or good, so all it takes is someone to lead them, then they WILL recognize what is correct and what is not, and steamroll the mafia.


The emphasis here is that decent townies recognise good solutions when they're presented to them. Unfortunately way too many townies atm don't take the time to assess and appreciate the correct answers given to them by strong townies (or just townies who are correct and making good arguments), and instead go off and do their own (incorrect) thing.


The bolded section is something marv wrote.

Do you think this may be relevant to the current situation at all?

- Oats has been hiding behind not reading Palmar all game. Palmar has finally picked up some suspicion, he's not a top couple options, but he's MAYBE going to get pushed later. Oats drops this. Oats remembers a very very particular post of Palmar's from a month ago, grabs it, drops it in thread, but never really DOES anything with it, and Palmar never responds. It struck me as odd that WoS dug up this singular post, remembered some particular post of Palmar's off the top of his head, but yet never really wanted to lynch him, try to read him, find him scummy for never answering (he followed up once but dropped it and again, never wanted to lynch). In the WoS is scum world, it's a post to distance them slightly, without ever bussing.

(5) WoS never spoke about snb. Once said he was "dropping bombs," but nothing beyond that. Snb, in turn, likes wos's case on FT, mentions it like 3-4 times, but never ever speaks of any sort of read on WoS. I know snb didn't exactly chat about a boatload of people, but neither mentions the other at all really, despite SnB always noting he liked WoS's case.


Call it mostly 1, with a little 4-5 mixed in.
Fe fi fo fum.
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