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BajaBlood
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BajaBlood
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I won't be able to post during working hours (US CT), but expect to be around evenings and can try to check the thread in the morning as well. | ||
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BajaBlood
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I can't imagine anyone would give themselves up on the first day. As a result, it seems that using the first lynch to help us create the right sort of environment is a better strategy than killing someone who we think is a few % more likely to be scum based on their first post or two. Of course, if I do feel like someone has 'raised their hand' Day 1 I'll let you know. | ||
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BajaBlood
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BajaBlood
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 Nothing to contribute about player histories as it's my first game, but thanks to those that were able to provide a bit of background. On September 26 2013 01:20 JonnyLaw wrote: See, when more than 47 minutes have elapsed everyone in the game has posted something at least. Of those posters a couple stand out to me. At the moment I'm wary of Jayte and Mluneth. Since he joined the game this is his sole contribution. Meh...not trying to contribute, just posting to say he posted. Yeah, it's the shortest post so far, but I don't think he's alone in not having contributed any substance yet (myself included). Hopefully we'll start to see more contributions as our discussions turn more in this direction. Moving into discussions like this is probably more productive than the policy lynch, though - at least the guides say so  On September 26 2013 01:20 JonnyLaw wrote: This is an odd question. Feels like someone trying to role call falsely in order to be above suspicion. Why not pm your coach or a mod? This is interesting to me as well. Not sure what the intent behind this post was - I'd assume it was more than just to get the question answered, but it doesn't quite feel like a fake roleclaim either. Plus he's got a game behind him already, it seems, so doesn't feel like sheer ignorance either. | ||
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BajaBlood
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On September 25 2013 21:30 xIvanJ wrote: 0.o this has begun already? Dayuuum I just woke up! I personally agree with Blurry, Playerboy345 and Stormtemplar we should NOT lynch lurkers on day1, it puts zero pressure on scum and will likely just clear out townies.. Not terribly impressed that this is the only post so far from this player... Asking for mercy on lurkers then proceeding to post nothing else. On the other side, don't have any particularly strong townie reads at this point. Zaragon probably gives me the best feeling, but really there's no one at this point whose posts I read and think 'no way a red would say this' | ||
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BajaBlood
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(1) When I wrote to defend Jayte, it was well under 24 hours since the game started. Since at that point I didn't know people's typical active times, I figured there was a chance he would become active in the next short period. It'd been a full 24 hours since the game opened when I brought up xIvanJ's inactivity - whatever his schedule is he should have had a chance to contribute by then. (2) Not only has xIvanJ only written one post, I don't like it's content either. Whether or not we actually execute a policy lynch, I dislike stating that we should tolerate lurking; there has to be pressure on lurkers. This isn't set in stone, but for now I'm gonna ##Vote: xIvanJ. Jayte didn't really take advantage of the window of time I offered him in (1), and the second post he made wasn't particularly helpful. As it stands, I don't really care for Jayte either, but I'm not going to go back on my gut just because I've been accused of unreasonably defending him. For now, I will sincerely hope for some good analysis from xIvanJ so that I can remove this vote. | ||
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BajaBlood
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The only other thing I disagree with is on the heavenz part - you yourself (and I did this too) said you had a greenish read to Zaragon but didn't have much to support it, why is it odd that heavenz does too? | ||
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BajaBlood
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On September 26 2013 23:00 heavenz wrote: I would advice to vote for Jayte assuming that xIvanJ get's modkilled or replaced. Good point. If as we get closer to the deadline it seems like xIvanJ isn't going to vote, I'd probably change my vote. At this point, that would mean a vote for Jayte. | ||
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BajaBlood
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At this point, I think it's best to go for the scummiest player. In case this sounds contradictory to my pushing on lurkers both in the policy discussion and my vote, my goal throughout early-mid Day 1 was to make sure there was not a consensus that lurkers would avoid getting lynched - I was hoping that fear of a policy lynch would drive a few more people back into the thread. Looks like it wasn't entirely successful.. I honestly don't have time until I get off work to go through the case on stormtemplar or look through filters myself. I will try to do this as far in advance of the time deadline as possible. In the meantime, it's been rightfully pointed out that lynching xIvanJ is not a good move for us. In case I'm unable to get back to this thread in time, here is my next vote. ##Unvote ##Vote: Jayte Ok I need to stop slacking... This game is going to get me in trouble, lol | ||
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BajaBlood
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I am going to read through the case against stormtemplar and look through his history to see if I agree. My read on Mluneth actually leans towards him being a misguided townie. It's not the most urgent topic we have right now since he doesn't seem to be at the top of the list, so I will write up why I think this sometime soon. But I don't think he should be the lynch candidate of the night. If we're going to off an AFK, I think my choices are xIvanJ > Jeyte > Blurry - with the exception that any of these players who actually votes in time shouldn't be lynched. I'd tend to prefer to keep Blurry since people know his style and that will be helpful in evaluating him if he becomes unAFK. I think we are all assuming Ivan won't make it, and now it looks like Jayte is gone for good too. But then even Blurry seems like he might not be here in time.... Anyway, I've only got 20 mins to evaluate stormtemplar, so let me get started on that. | ||
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I think his heavenz read was terrible, and a number of his other posts (including the question) are bizzare, but I'm not reading it as scum yet. Plus if we keep him around and he is in fact scum I think we'll have an easier time classifying him then some other players | ||
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I really hope these AFK'ers show up. Sucks to lose the vig too (though god knows what MLuneth would have done with it, lol). Could have helped clear out some of these AFKs if we're going to have to wait another day. | ||
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BajaBlood
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I honestly agree with a fair amount of the criticism I've been getting - I need to step up my level of play. Particularly early-mid Day 1 I was too focused on lurkers and not on making reads / pushing on active players. I think Day 2 will go better, since it will be a weekend and I'll have more time to do more analysis (I'll be getting home a couple after the nightpost goes up today). In the meantime, feel free to keep pushing me on this if you don't believe I'm making adequate contributions. On the other hand, I don't think it's fair to characterize my defense of MLuneth as a suspiciously timed town-cred move. I studied him while he was active, but didn't feel it was urgent to write it up ahead of the deadline (wanted to read up on stormtemplar to see if I wanted to change my vote - turns out I didn't, and can expand on that later). There were no votes for MLuneth when I started my first post after getting back from work, one occurred while I was typing my first post, and everything I wrote in his defense came before the third vote was cast (i.e. when he actually became likely to get lynched). To be honest, I found it odd how quickly that snowballed, despite a few of us protesting. I will spend some time looking into this. | ||
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BajaBlood
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+ Show Spoiler [Zaragon] + The most consistent pro-town voice in the thread so far. Actually to the point where I would second-guess this read if he wasn't targeted tonight, because I'm not sure why anyone would disagree. This read would get even stronger if no one dies tonight, because then I'm assuming both scum and medic are thinking the same. Obviously, I disagree with his Mluneth vote, but since it was the first vote and had more analysis behind it than later votes, it doesn't bother me that much + Show Spoiler [heavenz & Balla24 on MLuneth] + I'm still trying to process this bandwagon - it happened seemingly out of nowhere (little explanation and right before the deadline). It sounded like heavenz argument was better to lynch a somewhat suspicious afk'er than risk a mislynch on a suspicious active player? Is that an accurate summation of what you were thinking, Heavenz? Balla24 couldn't seem to explain his reasoning and had to claim it was a mistake (the post where he agrees with me then votes Mluneth was particularly baffling). I'm willing to accept that for now, since it is his first game and I can't really be intolerant of active-but-misguided players when I'm hoping for tolerance on that front as well. Ugh, my gut wants me to be suspicious of the bandwagon, but from the rest of the thread I'm getting a moderate town read on heavenz and slight town on Balla, so it might be best for me to let it go. Plus even though it was a bad lynch, it's not like the situation was providing us with many better options... + Show Spoiler [Lurkers] + Wait, you were expecting me to write more about lurkers after all that? | ||
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