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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 17:15 GMT
#1961
On September 16 2013 02:14 kushm4sta wrote:
@GRACK what is your last scumgame please

PURGATORY MAFIA!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 17:45 GMT
#1969
posting from my phone.

I don't see the case on Debears, I think he has been doing scumhunting all game. Vayne, Blubbers, Pandain, etc. He's going for "easy" targets right now such as Zealos and OP because those are the people most likely to be scum.
The meta really didn't convince me either.

I am going to read up on Kush as well to see if I'm mistaken but I think he is likely town for reading up on everybody's meta. He did this in GoT as well so I'm pretty sure this is Kush's main way of scum hunting. I'm pretty sure Kush doesn't bother to scumhunt when he is scum because he knows by now that he can get away with it.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 22:55 GMT
#2067
I'm just going to come out and claim because I think the information will be more beneficial for town at this point.

I am Donpa and I am a veteran. Considering there was only one night kill and it was WoS (likely by SK) I am 95% sure that I was the one hit by scum last night. (I asked the hosts and I am not informed whether I lose my night life or not)

We are moving in the wrong direction

Why would Debears shoot me if he was scum??/ There's absolutely no reason. I had a strong town read on him and we were agreeing with pretty much everything in the game! he would definitely leave me alive

I think that my being shot points much more heavily towards Zealos being scum, he was absolutely going to be my choice for day 2 lynch before WoS the night post made it exponentially more likely for BH to be SK.

What I think happened with the night kills is that BH (SK) killed WoS and that the missing scum KP went to me. I still think BH is the right lynch for today but I think this is important information for town, Debears is unlikely to be scum, we should lynch BH and then Zealos.

I know I posted that at the start of the game that I am town but I had planned to try the Kenpachi rule before I got my role so it wasn't alignment indicative. My plan was to make some trollish posts early along with the Kenpachi thing and see if I could catch some inexperienced scum trying to use those things to make an early case for town cred. (The Kenpachi rule has been proven to work an extremely high percentage of the time.) Unfortunately no scum jumped on it like I thought they would.

I have been trying much harder than I normally do as townie because I wanted to distinguish myself as a night 1 hit.

I never went out of my way to breadcrumb my role, which is probably a good thing because a lot of scum hunt for breadcrumbs, but I had an accidental slip after the night post.

On September 15 2013 07:01 Grackaroni wrote:
SQUM

I wrote this immediately about BH even though there was only 1 death because I believed that the reason there was only one kill wasn't because there was no SK but because mafia tried to hit me and failed.
On September 15 2013 07:27 Grackaroni wrote:
Actually with only 1 death, S&B's awesome crumb must have been wrong. BH is SQUM

Later I got a little paranoid that Mafia could figure out that I thought that I knew I was hit from still thinking there was a SK with only 1 death and that it would be better if they thought I was protected by a doctor to discourage them from shooting me again for a while so I posted this. What would it matter if I was making town believe that he was more likely mafia than SK, he's a good lynch regardless.

I'm not going to post my role PM because I don't want mafia to know the exact details of how my role works but please consider this post and this likely night action when scum hunting. I think it can go a long way into helping us solve the game.

tldr. Debears is a bad lynch today, Zealos is a good lynch for tomorrow.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 22:56 GMT
#2068
@Koshi, I have seen a game in the past where Kush said, I promise will not spam this time! There actually was once a time when Kush was considered a spammer.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 23:06 GMT
#2070
On September 16 2013 08:00 Old Partner wrote:
grack PS/DB scumteam anyone?

##vote Papa_Smurf

If I was scum I would have a much better way of defending Debaers then that. I wouldn't be comfortable fake claiming in the first place but even if I was I would think it would be a cop claim...
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 23:15 GMT
#2073
On September 16 2013 08:11 Koshi wrote:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Are you really claiming veteran?

Fuck this game.

I really don't think I chose a bad time to claim... the information is useful.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 23:19 GMT
#2079
On September 16 2013 08:18 Koshi wrote:
woopiefuckingdoo you got a townread on PS.

better claim veteran!!!!!

you guys are pushing somebody who I think is very likely town into being lynched in a cycle when we have a practically mod-confirmed anti-town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 23:21 GMT
#2082
On September 16 2013 08:19 Koshi wrote:
Btw.

Please paste your entire role pm.


Thank you!

What's the point? If I was scum obviously I would have a fake role PM before I did this.

There are many kinds of veterans, 1 shot, regenerating and bulletproof. I don't want to give scum full details on what kind I am.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 23:21 GMT
#2083
On September 16 2013 08:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 08:19 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 16 2013 08:18 Koshi wrote:
woopiefuckingdoo you got a townread on PS.

better claim veteran!!!!!

you guys are pushing somebody who I think is very likely town into being lynched in a cycle when we have a practically mod-confirmed anti-town.

He wasn't going to get lynched. Unless OP would do something spectacular I was always going back to him.

FFS

WTF? Who votes for somebody they don't actually planning on lynching????
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 23:24 GMT
#2087
On September 16 2013 08:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 08:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 16 2013 08:20 Koshi wrote:
On September 16 2013 08:19 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 16 2013 08:18 Koshi wrote:
woopiefuckingdoo you got a townread on PS.

better claim veteran!!!!!

you guys are pushing somebody who I think is very likely town into being lynched in a cycle when we have a practically mod-confirmed anti-town.

He wasn't going to get lynched. Unless OP would do something spectacular I was always going back to him.

FFS

WTF? Who votes for somebody they don't actually planning on lynching????

Because I want to have reads on all the scummers. After OP, PS is second.

I'm supposed to assume that people voting on somebody don't actually have an intent to lynch the person they are voting for?
Are you kidding me!!?!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 23:25 GMT
#2089
On September 16 2013 08:23 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 08:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 16 2013 08:19 Koshi wrote:
Btw.

Please paste your entire role pm.


Thank you!

What's the point? If I was scum obviously I would have a fake role PM before I did this.

There are many kinds of veterans, 1 shot, regenerating and bulletproof. I don't want to give scum full details on what kind I am.

POST THE ENTIRE ROLE PM = THX

What is the point not doing so?


ARE YOU FUCKING SCUM?

I gave you the point, it gives scum WIFOM on whether they should shoot me again or not.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 23:34 GMT
#2095
I cannot believe that you are making me post my role PM right now. This is fucking unbelievable. If I didn't have you screaming about role PM's scum would believe that my night life was regenerating.

From: ShiaoPi [ 1858 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Golden Sun Mafia Role PM
Date: 9/11/13 22:28
You are Donpa, the honorable thief, ex-mayor of Lunpa and son to the legendary Lunpa! When you were young, people were comparing you to your ingenious father and his exploits.That however was ages ago, now you are a very old man, heartbroken over the way your son Dodonpa has sullied Lunpa's memory by ruling over Lunpa with an iron fist. After Isaac defeats Dodonpa and frees Lunpa out of your sons grip, you have been more than happy to keep Dodonpa jailed as long as he needs to learn some virtue. Grateful for Isaac's intervention you have pledged yourself and your city to his cause. Being as old as you are also has some benefits. Your vast experience in all manner of things has made you a much more careful man, ever vigilant and watchful. You can lliterally sniff out danger as it approaches. You are able to survive a KP once in the game. You win with the Protectors of Weyard, when all threats to Weyard have been eliminated
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 23:36 GMT
#2101
On September 16 2013 08:35 Koshi wrote:
You can't post the time of the role pm ffs. Jeezus.

Why do you switch all of a sudden? If I was scum I could have changed the time...
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 23:39 GMT
#2106
That's also assuming that Scum didn't get the fake role pm's in their PM with the real role PM, which is entirely possible
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 15 2013 23:45 GMT
#2111
On September 16 2013 08:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 08:39 Grackaroni wrote:
That's also assuming that Scum didn't get the fake role pm's in their PM with the real role PM, which is entirely possible

Are you trying to convince me you are scum?

it seems weird to me that you rule out these possibilities.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 16 2013 03:43 GMT
#2145
Please take a minute to mentally prepare yourself for a bombshell.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 16 2013 03:46 GMT
#2148
I'm going to be the most unpopular player in the history of TL MAFIA by the end of this day but here goes.

Grack's Confession -By Grackaroni

Perhaps I was inspired by the master of fake-claims Raynepelikoneet. Or perhaps the completely insane, illogical plays of Chezinu. But fate had decided today was the day I was going to mark my name down in the history books, for better or for worse.

I don't want anyone to read into the timestamps for determining my alignment, because I swear on my honor as a GRACKEN, I switched the time stamps

The fake claim was a selfish play. I thought I could kill 2 birds with one stone. Successfully derail the wagon forming on Debears, who I believe is town, while completely confirming myself as town and setting myself up for a night kill. Mafia would have been forced to use both their RB and Night kill on me.

The truth is that If I was really veteran I would have breadcrumbed it; I made up all of the stuff about my "accidental SQUM. slip." Of believing that I knew BH had to be SK because I believed I was shot. I didn't consider the lack of a night kill at all for my immediate read on BH after the night post it was just my prior read on him.

I have never fake claimed before.

I've done lesser things in order to try to draw mafia into hitting me, for example in my last game, GoT, I had a post where my full objective was to make myself look blue to mafia and get myself out of the game
On August 16 2013 11:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 11:01 Mocsta wrote:
Big words.

What is your power?

Do u have a chance to be lord?

This sounds like a frog puffing up the chest

Who cares about roles/powers
No, I don't think Xatalos would give me lord.

The first part of my post doesn't concern you at all? Why focus on rolefishing?

I knew exactly what Mocsta meant in that game when he said what is your power, but I acted overly sensitive about role fishing to make mafia think I had a role. And it worked. The Mafia team with both Koshi/Rayn roleblocked me the next night but It wasn't enough to get me killed.

@Koshi, I am not actually a cocky enough player to believe that just because I am vet that I was definitely hit by scum,
@Debears I agree that would be a bad play if I was actually the veteran, and now in retrospect it probably was an even worse play for me to do as townie

I was very close to pulling it off. Hours before I made the post I PM'd ShiaoPi asking for a fake claim. I was close to posting the PM with the time stamps from hours ago and then without thinking I changed the time into the time from my VT Role Pm rather than just simply removing them. Mafia would never believe in a game where you can post your role PM's that a townie could be fake claiming a role; I would have forced mafia into using both their RB and their KP on me. The reason I chose the veteran claim instead of a cop claim is because if I somehow survived the night then I would have to come up with checks, and if my read on a player was wrong it would lose town the game. (Checked Zealos, he was scum. Zealos flips town. Grack is lynched. Grack flips town.) While if I somehow survived as "veteran" it's no big deal.

My intentions were good, but it all went so wrong... I don't even want to be killed off by mafia anymore because if I die now it would not be because of my reads and because of my claim but because of the "mod confirmed town". And besides, my status is having a negative influence on the town as a whole and it appears to be discouraging players from posting.

Since there is no reason not to at this point and people may ask for it, I will post my VT PM, This time of course devoid of time stamps.

You are the Mayor of Vale. You are Garet's Grandfather and one of the wisest persons in Vale. When the Proxians stole the Elemental Stars, you were among the elders, who listened to Isaac's report and you also witnessed the Wise One entrusting Isaac with the fate of the world. It was you, who asked Isaac if he wants to pursue the thiefs as ordered by the Wise One. Having received a positive answer you have decided to put Vale's full support behind him as he sets out to save not only the world but also two Valeans, Jenna and Kraden. You are a Protector of Weyard and have no powers besides your vote. Hunt down all threats to Weyard!

I'd like to believe that after this fiasco I have learned my lesson about fake claiming. Bookmark this post I pronounce that from this game forth, If I claim a role, I am either that role or mafia. There is no middle ground. Feel free to post this in any future game that I play and use it to lynch me if future Grack ever pulls this stunt again.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 16 2013 03:55 GMT
#2152
On September 16 2013 12:49 Pandain wrote:
What is VT?
How did you come up with a fake claim?
Why did you now say you fake claimed?

None of this is scum to me but just confusing.

Vanilla Town/Green

All I had to do was PM ShiaoPi asking for one.

I wanted to be killed off for my play in the game, not because I accidentally posted timestamps which don't actually make me "mod-confirmed town"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 16 2013 03:56 GMT
#2153
On September 16 2013 12:53 Umasi wrote:
VT=Vanilla Townie=Powerless
why did you post that, grack? what did you hope to achieve by posting that?
Show nested quote +
None of this is scum to me but just confusing.

How long have you been lurking here?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 16 2013 04:24 GMT
#2166
On September 16 2013 13:21 Old Partner wrote:
Like, with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch, which means even if I unite everyone not-voting-for-me onto a glorious PS/DB wagon, I need to pick off one of the people voting for me presently. Just sort of sounding out my options here

Your task was to catch scum and make a convincing case. Why don't you just go do that?
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