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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 14 2013 20:22 GMT
#1667
On September 15 2013 05:20 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah. You are right.

Tell me. Which 3 targets are most likely to be docced this night?

Why?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 14 2013 20:31 GMT
#1671
On September 15 2013 05:27 Koshi wrote:
I am just interested. No answer?

I would say me or Debears.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 14 2013 21:25 GMT
#1692
On September 15 2013 05:59 Pandain wrote:
The talking about whether OP is SK or Survivor is useless and doesn't affect us. There's no way to definitely tell the difference as they're both third party and have the same motives (survive at all costs), as well as help get rid of people who threaten them.

I don't think there's much use in the speculation, I agree with vayne's analysis of leave him as a back-up lynch in case we're uncertain on who to lynch.
As for me
Furthermore anyone who thinks I'm scum ignores the fact that I have been suspicious of Zealos before and even posted this here.
Also quote of mine:
Show nested quote +
SnB isn't scum, blubbers seems bad but not certain enough for scum. Zealos also seems scum but again I think we need more information.


I was like the first one(I think, or at least significant one) to actually analyze Zealos and point out suspicious behaviors besides just generic "being useless." I had switched to Zealos(why even encourage that bandwagon in the first place if I never wanted him to be lynched, it easily could have gone out of my control if I was scum.)



In fact, I hadn't realized OP had voted, and thought that he was going to be lynched instead of zealous. I would rather have had blubbers lynched instead of OP which is why I changed my vote. I don't know how I would have voted between blubbers and zealous.

Furthermore you assume Zealos is scum which isn't certain. Even if he is, it wouldn't mean I would be scum. As I mentioned before, I had thought it was between OP and Blubbers and made sure my vote counted and chose blubbers.


I know you were suspicious of Zealos that's the crux of my argument. you indicated time and time again that Zealos was suspicious. You believed blub could be mafia but was not as good of a lynch as Zealos and that you wanted to leave him alive because you can read him more easily later.

You did vote between Zealos and Blubbers, you unvoted Zealos and voted for Blubbers. You posted your reasoning at the time for not wanting to lynch Zealos once people started actually pushing on him and it was shady. It looks to me a lot like you were soft bussing Zealos and then when people actually started moving on to him you got cold feet and panicked.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 14 2013 21:42 GMT
#1714
On September 15 2013 06:28 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 06:25 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 15 2013 05:59 Pandain wrote:
The talking about whether OP is SK or Survivor is useless and doesn't affect us. There's no way to definitely tell the difference as they're both third party and have the same motives (survive at all costs), as well as help get rid of people who threaten them.

I don't think there's much use in the speculation, I agree with vayne's analysis of leave him as a back-up lynch in case we're uncertain on who to lynch.
As for me
Furthermore anyone who thinks I'm scum ignores the fact that I have been suspicious of Zealos before and even posted this here.
Also quote of mine:
SnB isn't scum, blubbers seems bad but not certain enough for scum. Zealos also seems scum but again I think we need more information.


I was like the first one(I think, or at least significant one) to actually analyze Zealos and point out suspicious behaviors besides just generic "being useless." I had switched to Zealos(why even encourage that bandwagon in the first place if I never wanted him to be lynched, it easily could have gone out of my control if I was scum.)



In fact, I hadn't realized OP had voted, and thought that he was going to be lynched instead of zealous. I would rather have had blubbers lynched instead of OP which is why I changed my vote. I don't know how I would have voted between blubbers and zealous.

Furthermore you assume Zealos is scum which isn't certain. Even if he is, it wouldn't mean I would be scum. As I mentioned before, I had thought it was between OP and Blubbers and made sure my vote counted and chose blubbers.


I know you were suspicious of Zealos that's the crux of my argument. you indicated time and time again that Zealos was suspicious. You believed blub could be mafia but was not as good of a lynch as Zealos and that you wanted to leave him alive because you can read him more easily later.

You did vote between Zealos and Blubbers, you unvoted Zealos and voted for Blubbers. You posted your reasoning at the time for not wanting to lynch Zealos once people started actually pushing on him and it was shady. It looks to me a lot like you were soft bussing Zealos and then when people actually started moving on to him you got cold feet and panicked.


When did I say Zealos was a better lynch than Blub?

You say it several times in your filter, including in the quote you posted in your defense saying I was wrong because you were suspicious of Zealos.

I get your point about not knowing BH's vote count. without that vote Zealos wouldn't have been lynched. But I have no way of knowing though if you switched your vote because you didn't see BH's post and OP was going to be lynched if you didn't or if you switched your vote because you actually did see BH's last second vote and realized that Zealos was the person getting lynched and moved to Blubbers.

The reasons you were using to discourage people from voting Zealos at the end of the day were suspicious.
He might be blue?? Who backs off on a scumread because they might be blue?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 14 2013 22:01 GMT
#1723
SQUM
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 14 2013 22:04 GMT
#1724
On September 15 2013 06:47 Old Partner wrote:
PS since there is a non-zero chance you got shot could you indicate which NKs tonight would indicate town shouldn't lynch me kkthxbai

Do you still want somebody to indicate which night kills should make town lynch you?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 14 2013 22:07 GMT
#1728
On September 15 2013 07:04 Pandain wrote:
That's a survivor role right?

Probably means OP is scum, then.

He is probably SK like S&B Pointed out, but with no town deaths we can afford to get rid of him. He is confirmed anti-town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 14 2013 22:27 GMT
#1731
Actually with only 1 death, S&B's awesome crumb must have been wrong. BH is SQUM
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 14 2013 22:45 GMT
#1747
On September 15 2013 07:43 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 07:42 Old Partner wrote:
On September 15 2013 07:41 Koshi wrote:
On September 15 2013 07:40 Old Partner wrote:
Now I know you guys all want to lynch me, since another survivor has flipped. BUT, I THiNK THERE arE THINGS ABOUT THAT FLIp THAT MAKE ME LOOK GOOD.

1) how would I know that survivors are two-shot hiders unless I too was a survivor?
2) all the arguments about why I'm survivor and not scum STILL APPLY

IN FACT, my suspicion on WoS WAS GOOD. He wasn't a townie! AND I FIGUrED THAT OUT. I should get credit for that at least!

You should have picked another fake role provided by the hosts

##vote: Old Partner


Why the dicks would hosts provide a survivor role to scum when there's already a survivor in the game? That would be like bastard host tier.

Look, at least admit there's a CHANCE I am who I say I am. There is, isn't there?

1%

2 survivors could be but then there is no SK

And I tell you this:

WoS was not killed by scummers. Unless some sick bluehunting was going on.

What player do you think would kill WoS? I would think it's somebody who he's confident at reading and I don't know who that is in this game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 14 2013 22:46 GMT
#1749
I'm just going to ignore BH, he's the lynch for the day. the chance of 2 survivors combined with his play this game makes it a 99.99% chance he is a baddie. We can still do some scumhunting aside from him.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 14 2013 23:03 GMT
#1766
I'm going to feel so stupid if BH is actually a 2nd survivor lol.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 14 2013 23:04 GMT
#1769
nah there's no way, the S + Q breadcrumb was way below par for BH.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 14 2013 23:18 GMT
#1779
On September 15 2013 08:10 Old Partner wrote:
:| if I was the SK I'd have claimied vigi. I guess I'd have shot WoS BUT THATS NOT THE POINT

lol BH, I love you but you're getting lynched. you would lynch yourself too at this point it's the most pro-town move. you've got an extremely high chance of being mafia/SK and if by some miracle you end up survivor it's not even a big deal.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 15 2013 00:11 GMT
#1794
I demand pictures of baby seals!!! Yamato has the right idea for what to do when caught.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 15 2013 00:13 GMT
#1795
I'm loving this way too much right now to be honest, Watching BH squirm.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 15 2013 02:15 GMT
#1813
On September 15 2013 10:18 strongandbig wrote:
I got roleblocked. And am at dinner with my girlfriend so will not be posting any more tonight.

I think I know how to catch this rolebocker, what is the name of your GF's TL account? IS IT THE KUSHM4STA???
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 15 2013 04:04 GMT
#1848
I like the posts coming out of Pandain at the moment, I didn't like his defense posts against my case but all of his posts unrelated to my case read town to me. I will look into Pandain's other games before the end of the next night and come back with some conclusion to see if I think he is capable as mafia of making the posts he is making in this game because I simply cannot make up my mind right now. What he was doing at the end of the day on day1 takes balls, which is something I think most people do not have as mafia.

I'm still liking Zealos for a day3 lynch. I think he is independently scummy and that his flip could tell us a lot about Pandain. He didn't really react at all to being accused, which is something I think town players would do.

Someone who is good at reading oats needs to help me out, because I disagree with pretty much every single post he makes.I would think that if oats was scum he would feel pressured to agree with at least some of town's opinions, but I really do not know.

I agree with the consensus that first night role blocks are often town. That's a big point towards S&B being town
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 15 2013 04:08 GMT
#1849
@Oats, townie RB's are jailers, I don't know why anyone would Jail S&B. Pus, Don't scum have a role blocker pretty much every single game? Nobody else has claimed RB
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 15 2013 04:39 GMT
#1852
On September 15 2013 13:32 Pandain wrote:
Also Oats what happened to this?
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 01:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
you're horrible koshi.

Night guys. OP is scum. Lynch him or lynch town. GUARANTEED.

Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 14 2013 01:42 Papa_Smurf wrote:
On September 14 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 14 2013 01:37 Papa_Smurf wrote:
I dont see why you are pushing a 4th wagon at this point in the day oats

What 4th wagon?
Also, I dont see anything but me shouting VOTE OP.
Why arent you voting for OP?
Second read is Blubb.


Op is a fourth wagon. We have only 5 hours left and limited knowldge of who will be here before lynch. Bettwr to concentrate on the 3 main candidates at hand

for what?
I dont want to lynch SnB today.
There are already 2 votes on OP, so he needs like another 3 to be the dude thats gonna die. Do you think thats hard to get??

I dont see the point of you shutting me down like this. Do you prefer regurgitated content or new stuff about a new person that is scum.
You have given no reasons why you dont want to lynch OP Papa smurf. Give those reasons.


Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 14 2013 01:37 Papa_Smurf wrote:
I dont see why you are pushing a 4th wagon at this point in the day oats

What 4th wagon?
Also, I dont see anything but me shouting VOTE OP.
Why arent you voting for OP?
Second read is Blubb.


Why have you changed despite him becoming more suspicious?

Oats changed his stance after BH claimed 3rd party.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 15 2013 17:05 GMT
#1952
On September 15 2013 08:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 08:03 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm going to feel so stupid if BH is actually a 2nd survivor lol.

Nope. You would feel stupid if you don't lynch BH and he ends up being scum.
Then you can feel stupid.

@koshi why switch off BH now. Kush and oats i could see switching but this surprises me.

BH is absolutely the correct lynch for he day. Why risk hitting town when we can hit a confirmed anti-town player? BH's breadcrumb wasn't good and the chances of 2 survivors is very low.

Also Oats, I don't agree with your characterization of BH's scum play. From what I remember BH as scum is unable to keep up the activity he has as town and has a hard time faking the aggression as well.
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