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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:00 GMT
#1678
Anyway I don't think Zealos is a good lynch for tommorow anyways, you can try to lynch me but you will fail.

I say we go for Kush still tomorrow as I do believe his "fake claim" information is a genuine scum-slip, and I also believe that he is purposely trying to play anti-town and isn't attempting to help town. And contrary to other people, I don't believe that saying this is his normal meta excuse him from the fact he is playing as scum.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:02 GMT
#1680
I don't think your in danger of all of dying; why would you think you would die?

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:03 GMT
#1681
Oh woops I didn't actually read you all the way.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:06 GMT
#1683
It also is a really really really weird thing to suddenly PM a host after you get your role, it doesn't make sense in the least bit, and especially contrasts with how "i dont give a fuck" he seems to be wanting to show to us.

I think WoS definitely deserves further analysis, but also think Sn0_man needs to be further looked into at all. However I am confident enough in kush to delay Sn0 for a later moment.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:21 GMT
#1689
Based my vote off of these posts:
On September 14 2013 06:59 strongandbig wrote:
SO CLOSE one more!

On September 14 2013 06:59 strongandbig wrote:
Who else is active VOTE ZEALOS


Which indicated we hadn't done it.

You may not be aware of this, but everything literally happened in like five minutes. Even if I was wrong, it wouldn't mean I was scum.

Your assumption that I am in fact lying rests upon these assumptions

1. Zealos is scum still not certain
2. Zealos and I are scum Doesn't make sense since I helped vote him anyway, see my above post. Why would I do that if scum? Furthermore, I helped first lay suspicion on him.

The fact I may have been wrong about the vote count is amusing and sad but nothing else.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:22 GMT
#1690
Wow I wasn't even wrong
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:26 GMT
#1693
On September 15 2013 06:25 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 06:22 Pandain wrote:
Wow I wasn't even wrong


So you are saying you didn't look at the votecount and voting thread at all?


No I did, I based what I thought was the score based on what I that was there. Which is that we needed someone else to vote zealos or else OP was going to be lynched anyway, who I didn't think was scum.

You are over-thinking things.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:28 GMT
#1695
On September 15 2013 06:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 05:59 Pandain wrote:
The talking about whether OP is SK or Survivor is useless and doesn't affect us. There's no way to definitely tell the difference as they're both third party and have the same motives (survive at all costs), as well as help get rid of people who threaten them.

I don't think there's much use in the speculation, I agree with vayne's analysis of leave him as a back-up lynch in case we're uncertain on who to lynch.
As for me
Furthermore anyone who thinks I'm scum ignores the fact that I have been suspicious of Zealos before and even posted this here.
Also quote of mine:
SnB isn't scum, blubbers seems bad but not certain enough for scum. Zealos also seems scum but again I think we need more information.


I was like the first one(I think, or at least significant one) to actually analyze Zealos and point out suspicious behaviors besides just generic "being useless." I had switched to Zealos(why even encourage that bandwagon in the first place if I never wanted him to be lynched, it easily could have gone out of my control if I was scum.)



In fact, I hadn't realized OP had voted, and thought that he was going to be lynched instead of zealous. I would rather have had blubbers lynched instead of OP which is why I changed my vote. I don't know how I would have voted between blubbers and zealous.

Furthermore you assume Zealos is scum which isn't certain. Even if he is, it wouldn't mean I would be scum. As I mentioned before, I had thought it was between OP and Blubbers and made sure my vote counted and chose blubbers.


I know you were suspicious of Zealos that's the crux of my argument. you indicated time and time again that Zealos was suspicious. You believed blub could be mafia but was not as good of a lynch as Zealos and that you wanted to leave him alive because you can read him more easily later.

You did vote between Zealos and Blubbers, you unvoted Zealos and voted for Blubbers. You posted your reasoning at the time for not wanting to lynch Zealos once people started actually pushing on him and it was shady. It looks to me a lot like you were soft bussing Zealos and then when people actually started moving on to him you got cold feet and panicked.


When did I say Zealos was a better lynch than Blub?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:29 GMT
#1697
So was I right or not in that disregarding OP's vote, who I didn't see because it literally came at the last second, OP was going to be lynched? And that only switching to blubbers would change to outcome?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:31 GMT
#1701
On September 15 2013 06:30 Old Partner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 06:29 Pandain wrote:
So was I right or not in that disregarding OP's vote, who I didn't see because it literally came at the last second, OP was going to be lynched? And that only switching to blubbers would change to outcome?


Not to be contrary here because I like you being alive pandain, but blubbers got lynched anyways. if I had voted blubbdavid instead of zealos, nothing would have changed. I voted Zealos because I was freaking out and saw what I thought was a last-minute swap to him, and wanted to make sure it would work.


I didn't see your vote.

Note when I was like "well this was interesting" after I voted because I then saw your vote, which was amusing in more ways than one because you just suddenly appeared and also I didn't know exactly was the outcome then.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:33 GMT
#1702
On September 15 2013 06:31 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 06:29 Pandain wrote:
So was I right or not in that disregarding OP's vote, who I didn't see because it literally came at the last second, OP was going to be lynched? And that only switching to blubbers would change to outcome?


If you did the same process as I did, you would have thought OP was behind zealos by 2 votes.

If you did math based on correcting the votecount yourself, you would have had OP behind zealos by 1 vote


What do you mean?
Where was the vote count incorrect?

Again I don't think any of this matters because townies make mistakes but it was OP 4, Zealos 4. And since OP was there first, he would've gotten lynched.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:35 GMT
#1704
It wasn't really calculating, and my memory is hazy because it happened last night and then someone woke me up at 4 am and really disrupted my memory of events before(basically something big happened), and I wasn't thinking I would have to defend myself.

Basically here:
I paniced, didn't think we would get votes for OP. By my reasoning(which I forget how I did because I didn't think it would matter), OP was going to be lynched. Given that I didn't think he was scum or that we would get another vote, I voted blubber who was more likely.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:36 GMT
#1705
But my reasoning was correct anyway so all of your assumptions are really failing, I'll look into Grack's post now though as I think he brought up something else he thought was suspicious.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:38 GMT
#1708
Oh yeah, he assumed that I thought Zealos was a better lynch than Blubbers.

I don't know if that even really matters, I think he probably was in context to that time. But it was between Blubbers and OP and not OP and Zealos.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:40 GMT
#1710
Never said he was scum, to be honest I haven't really looked into him. Which is why I wanted you to.

I only gave a quick read-through which didn't really bring me up any useful information, which is why I wanted you to help bring any insights.


I honestly don't see any actual accusations. And I don't feel like going through all my actions when I don't even remember all of them.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:41 GMT
#1712
This is all getting to be spam. You guys can consolidate your posts and then say why you think I'm scum and I'll address them. Otherwise this is getting confusing to read and will be more usefully addressed after the flips.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:44 GMT
#1715
This is retarded. I don't even feel like even addressing these arguments.

Even if I was wrong in any way, it doesn't mean anything and doesn't say I'm scum. If anything how active I was proves I wasn't scum.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:49 GMT
#1718
If I die, lynch Kush. If he is then scum, lynch Rayn.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 21:51 GMT
#1720
Quick thoughts on Rayn as for the connection:

Utterly not considering Kush at ALL for scum, despite how active he is in trying to find any reason why anyone is scum.
Trying to plant suspicion on literally everyone I think is town(this is omgus, I know, but when it's to this large degree I think it means something).
Not really reacting to my thinking he's scum.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 22:04 GMT
#1725
That's a survivor role right?

Probably means OP is scum, then.
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