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actually im playing dota now.
But I would like other dudes thoughts on that post.
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On September 17 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Seriously Oats, wtf are you doing this game? You are just trolling around not trying to even look like anything..
uh
I found OP.
And I found rayn
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On September 17 2013 00:41 Pandain wrote:
Both of you guys are town.
This is what I got out of this
lol how is rayn's response alignment indicative
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You know, this is the first time Rayn is concerned with someone making a bad case. Ive never seen it before.
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On September 17 2013 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 00:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
You know, this is the first time Rayn is concerned with someone making a bad case. Ive never seen it before. This is not true. I always shoot down bad cases on my townreads. Even on my scumreads, but if someone makes a case on my scumread that i think is bad i usually let them answer first.
You call this shooting down a case??
You have been 'musing' over it for like 2 pages already.
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On September 17 2013 01:34 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 01:04 kushm4sta wrote:
My case was amazing and right. Completely different attitude as scum.
Show me debears insulting someone as town.
My reads right now are panda grack debears.
It's just I have not written a case on the other two. This is scum kush right here. "My case is so right". Then picking 2 of the towniest players in the thread, and one that is considered town by about half the thread as the scumteam. Yeah right. Kush, there's a reason why no one has ever made a meta case on me. Because I play the same as either alignment. The fact that are building your case around your read and not your read around your case is scummy. + Show Spoiler +On September 15 2013 22:59 kushm4sta wrote:1) also his cases this game have been overly simplistic and directed towards very easy targets.His scumread list atm is OP - claimed survivor Me - afker everyone wants to kill with fire Zealos - classic lynch bait It's like he's going for the most obvious shit and not even trying to find scum. 2) In terms of meta, town debears is levelheaded and logical. Scum debears is much louder and more emotional. Recall his bitchfit with rayne for no reason.Another thing that scum debears loves to do is yell at people about how to play the game. This is scumdebears from NMXXIX: Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 00:49 debears wrote:On October 26 2012 00:46 sylverfyre wrote:On October 26 2012 00:37 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 26 2012 00:35 sylverfyre wrote:On October 26 2012 00:24 Djodref wrote:
@sylver
I don't care about who hasn't posted right now. I want to know what info you were expecting to get by asking your question. I was making that list because I wasn't even sure myself who/how many people hadn't spoken up. I was trying to stir something up and you can also consider it a kind of "roleclaim-lite" (I hardly expect anyone to claim they enjoy playing scum when I ask ingame, but i think it could have been interesting to see if some people said they like a particular pro-town power-role.) So, you admit you were rolefishing? Yes, I am trying to get people to talk about roles without doing something as ridiculous as asking for a D1 mass claim. Also I am trying to get to know the other players in general. No, No. No. No. No. Talking about roles is stupid. It gives the mafia stuff to go on when looking for nk candidates. DON'T DO IT. Here is this game (just one of the many times he has done something like this): Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 05:01 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 14 2013 05:00 Koshi wrote:
Pandain
Oats plays solo as town. He never consolidates and picks his target. He ends up being the only one voting for a person a lot. I remember Titanic.
Kush you are seriously going to ask people to vote for you? Can I reveal who I think you are? Please don't give scum extra info unless 1) you are certain the info you reveal will make him look town 2) He is the leading candidate 3) if 2 is not the scenario, but it's close and time is running short already have disproved 1) and 2a) On September 16 2013 02:11 kushm4sta wrote:3) As scum you tell people how to play like with general newbie tips for how to play mafia. In your example, you were explaining why someone's case was bad / your thought process. It was not a superficial tip like you do in your scumgames.Here is another example: Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 10:12 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Stop wifoming over posting a role pm
Do post analysis over actual play This is completely different than the type of lecturing you did in that town game. ~~~~ 4) Regarding your emotionality,
in your town examples of you being emotional, it's not really that emotional. You are simple explaining yourself and using capitalization for emphasis.5) You have a completely different attitude as town. You are calm, methodical, logical.
As scum you are aggressive, blunt, and mean. You look for superficial scumtells and latch onto them without analyzing deeper.Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 09:29 Papa_Smurf wrote:
So let me get this straight
Raynp wants me to explain my read on him right away
Raynp wants BH to post ever read he has right away
Raynp won't post actual analysis on kush's play
Raynp thought we should lynch oats (a replacement) over kush
Wow
Can
He
Be
This
Bad
As
Town ~~~~ You try to discount me because I've provided only two examples. I only did two in my original thread because I am lazy and tired and shit (awake all night). I have provided two more in this post. There are more still! ~~~~ 6) Add to that the fact that you are literally freaking out right now. Your posting rate has jumped like crazy, like your heart rate if you had a gun to your head. You put crap tons of effort into this defense. Quoting past games and shit. If only you put a fraction of that effort into scum hunting, maybe I might believe you are town. On September 16 2013 02:30 kushm4sta wrote:
7) @ps also please show me where you were a dick to someone in a town game. I think acting like a dick is a huge scumtell for you. 1) Already show how I have simplistic reads that are very successful (especially lately) 2) Funny thing is, if you look at desert postgame. I was bitching at raynp there after I stopped here. It's non alignment indicative. I even said don't consider it as part of my filter I'm pretty sure. 3) is definitely misconstrusing my contributions this game. 1st, there is/was no reason to wifom about the WoS nk. It should be pretty clear that scum would not shoot him. Scum's goal is to get rid of the towniest players. WoS was not a "towniest" player. Also, if things like these were my only contributions, then you'd have something. You are cherrypicking 1 quote and ignoring the cases in my filter. 5) Repeating the points in 2 4 and 6) These points are both bullshit, and totally misrepresent my meta, because you should have read Mario mini's day 1 if you want to know my meta when I'm like this. I freak out over stupidity and bad cases on me. Yours is that. I did in in MM, and I'm doing it here, because I think you aren't that fucking bad as town to come up with such a horrible misrepresentative case. 7) Now he comes up with "oh debears is a dick as scum" after I purge his "emotional" tell. And you know what? He hasn't shown any quotes from my scum game of me being a pure dick. I'd love to see that. Kush claimed to have read my games, yet his failure to recognize the similar circumstances between this game and mario mini (day 1) are amazingly unacceptable. That means he didn't read my games. He skimmed and cherrypicked.
no, scum kush is actually right.
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So rayn, why are you lynching OP and appear to not have any scumreads after posting that huge ego post?
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On September 17 2013 01:51 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 01:50 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 17 2013 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 17 2013 01:34 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 17 2013 01:04 kushm4sta wrote:
My case was amazing and right. Completely different attitude as scum.
Show me debears insulting someone as town.
My reads right now are panda grack debears.
It's just I have not written a case on the other two. This is scum kush right here. "My case is so right". Then picking 2 of the towniest players in the thread, and one that is considered town by about half the thread as the scumteam. Yeah right. Kush, there's a reason why no one has ever made a meta case on me. Because I play the same as either alignment. The fact that are building your case around your read and not your read around your case is scummy. + Show Spoiler +On September 15 2013 22:59 kushm4sta wrote:1) also his cases this game have been overly simplistic and directed towards very easy targets.His scumread list atm is OP - claimed survivor Me - afker everyone wants to kill with fire Zealos - classic lynch bait It's like he's going for the most obvious shit and not even trying to find scum. 2) In terms of meta, town debears is levelheaded and logical. Scum debears is much louder and more emotional. Recall his bitchfit with rayne for no reason.Another thing that scum debears loves to do is yell at people about how to play the game. This is scumdebears from NMXXIX: Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 00:49 debears wrote:On October 26 2012 00:46 sylverfyre wrote:On October 26 2012 00:37 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 26 2012 00:35 sylverfyre wrote:On October 26 2012 00:24 Djodref wrote:
@sylver
I don't care about who hasn't posted right now. I want to know what info you were expecting to get by asking your question. I was making that list because I wasn't even sure myself who/how many people hadn't spoken up. I was trying to stir something up and you can also consider it a kind of "roleclaim-lite" (I hardly expect anyone to claim they enjoy playing scum when I ask ingame, but i think it could have been interesting to see if some people said they like a particular pro-town power-role.) So, you admit you were rolefishing? Yes, I am trying to get people to talk about roles without doing something as ridiculous as asking for a D1 mass claim. Also I am trying to get to know the other players in general. No, No. No. No. No. Talking about roles is stupid. It gives the mafia stuff to go on when looking for nk candidates. DON'T DO IT. Here is this game (just one of the many times he has done something like this): Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 05:01 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 14 2013 05:00 Koshi wrote:
Pandain
Oats plays solo as town. He never consolidates and picks his target. He ends up being the only one voting for a person a lot. I remember Titanic.
Kush you are seriously going to ask people to vote for you? Can I reveal who I think you are? Please don't give scum extra info unless 1) you are certain the info you reveal will make him look town 2) He is the leading candidate 3) if 2 is not the scenario, but it's close and time is running short already have disproved 1) and 2a) On September 16 2013 02:11 kushm4sta wrote:3) As scum you tell people how to play like with general newbie tips for how to play mafia. In your example, you were explaining why someone's case was bad / your thought process. It was not a superficial tip like you do in your scumgames.Here is another example: Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 10:12 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Stop wifoming over posting a role pm
Do post analysis over actual play This is completely different than the type of lecturing you did in that town game. ~~~~ 4) Regarding your emotionality,
in your town examples of you being emotional, it's not really that emotional. You are simple explaining yourself and using capitalization for emphasis.5) You have a completely different attitude as town. You are calm, methodical, logical.
As scum you are aggressive, blunt, and mean. You look for superficial scumtells and latch onto them without analyzing deeper.Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 09:29 Papa_Smurf wrote:
So let me get this straight
Raynp wants me to explain my read on him right away
Raynp wants BH to post ever read he has right away
Raynp won't post actual analysis on kush's play
Raynp thought we should lynch oats (a replacement) over kush
Wow
Can
He
Be
This
Bad
As
Town ~~~~ You try to discount me because I've provided only two examples. I only did two in my original thread because I am lazy and tired and shit (awake all night). I have provided two more in this post. There are more still! ~~~~ 6) Add to that the fact that you are literally freaking out right now. Your posting rate has jumped like crazy, like your heart rate if you had a gun to your head. You put crap tons of effort into this defense. Quoting past games and shit. If only you put a fraction of that effort into scum hunting, maybe I might believe you are town. On September 16 2013 02:30 kushm4sta wrote:
7) @ps also please show me where you were a dick to someone in a town game. I think acting like a dick is a huge scumtell for you. 1) Already show how I have simplistic reads that are very successful (especially lately) 2) Funny thing is, if you look at desert postgame. I was bitching at raynp there after I stopped here. It's non alignment indicative. I even said don't consider it as part of my filter I'm pretty sure. 3) is definitely misconstrusing my contributions this game. 1st, there is/was no reason to wifom about the WoS nk. It should be pretty clear that scum would not shoot him. Scum's goal is to get rid of the towniest players. WoS was not a "towniest" player. Also, if things like these were my only contributions, then you'd have something. You are cherrypicking 1 quote and ignoring the cases in my filter. 5) Repeating the points in 2 4 and 6) These points are both bullshit, and totally misrepresent my meta, because you should have read Mario mini's day 1 if you want to know my meta when I'm like this. I freak out over stupidity and bad cases on me. Yours is that. I did in in MM, and I'm doing it here, because I think you aren't that fucking bad as town to come up with such a horrible misrepresentative case. 7) Now he comes up with "oh debears is a dick as scum" after I purge his "emotional" tell. And you know what? He hasn't shown any quotes from my scum game of me being a pure dick. I'd love to see that. Kush claimed to have read my games, yet his failure to recognize the similar circumstances between this game and mario mini (day 1) are amazingly unacceptable. That means he didn't read my games. He skimmed and cherrypicked. no, scum kush is actually right. You guys take this "bussing" read wayyyy to seriously Like it's the same thing as saying "debears never busses his scumbuddies". It may be true. But, I know that it's true and I'm saving it so I can suddenly change it one game and solo win to vicory
he does it. Every game.
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its a non alignment indicative post. vayne
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Thats a horrbile scum team vayen
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i wanna kill vayne now.
So many choices.
So little time.
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sn0 man, can you name 3 scum and why please
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sn0, you have been in game since the start, and you have 2 townreads that mirror thread sentiment. Good show.
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So what was BH breadcrumbing SnB? You must have some idea.
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On September 17 2013 02:46 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 02:45 Old Partner wrote:
you know if I was really the SK I'd just claim vigi so you baddies wouldn't lynch me. i'd 100% have a vigi crumb ready. I wouldn't claim survivor at all. you're really don't get it do you I, for one, am reasonably willing to believe you are a survivor. You are getting lynched though. Host would literally have to confirm you in-thread before I unvote you.
anyway sn0 is scum. Confirmed
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On September 17 2013 02:53 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 02:51 Old Partner wrote:On September 17 2013 02:48 strongandbig wrote:On September 17 2013 02:46 Old Partner wrote:
Also 100% my role crumbs are never findable by people who aren't me. The very fact that you think you found a crumb that I didn't show you myself is evidence that it is not in fact the crumb. ok i stop posting now so you guys can play your game sry You're claiming you breadcrumbed the letter S. Well it doesn't matter now but I'll admit I had zero plan of claiming Survivor ever this game. It's like almost never a good idea to do it. However, after realizing I had effectively broken smurf, I decided to claim, and fumbled around in my first post for something I could pass off as a crumb. It was an okay lie! plenty of people believed me, up until WoS died. I consider it a not-bad "Scramble" move all things considered. In retrospect when playing 3p I should just crumb all kinds of shit so I have anything ready to go when I need it. You were so obviously anti-town on D1 it's not even funny. Well see back then I had the protection of the Smurf! People thought my long worthless posts meant something!
nope.
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oh lol meta defending yourself doesnt work.
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On September 17 2013 03:14 Sn0_Man wrote:
Its a mini but its a closed setup there's no reason scum can't have more than 1 KP for example.
Also WoS could totally have forgotten to hide iunno. I agree though scum tossing KP at him doesn't make too much sense to me.
useless post.
whos scum today that isnt OP?>
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On September 17 2013 03:20 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 03:17 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 17 2013 03:14 Sn0_Man wrote:
Its a mini but its a closed setup there's no reason scum can't have more than 1 KP for example.
Also WoS could totally have forgotten to hide iunno. I agree though scum tossing KP at him doesn't make too much sense to me. useless post. whos scum today that isnt OP?> 7 people dumbass. Also, no the post wasn't useless. Its important to note that there is no reason scum can't have a varying amount of factional or personal KP in this game since we DONT KNOW. Too many people assuming scum get 1 NK.
oh shit.
That totally makes a difference in who is scum.
Oh wait it doesnt. My bad.
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EPT
