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raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 22 2013 16:27 GMT

#3804

On September 23 2013 01:24 Oatsmaster wrote:

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not true.

I am like ???????????.

So why are you calling (1) me SK and not scum and (2) debears town?
If i can't be scum and debears can't be scum there is no way Pandain is scum.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 22 2013 16:43 GMT

#3807

On September 23 2013 01:35 Oatsmaster wrote:

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Because of what?
You could be sk and pandain could be scum.

We are talking about a situation where Sno_man flips SK remember?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 22 2013 16:43 GMT

#3808

On September 23 2013 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:

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because sn0 flipping sk says nothing about your alignments?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 22 2013 17:13 GMT

#3810

I think there is no framer. I think debears is obviously town. Therefore Pandain is town. I don't even need anyone to flip SK to think that.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 22 2013 17:14 GMT

#3811

I am kinda confused what you are trying to do here Oats? You can't convince me to lynch debears/Pandain. If you want to lynch someone else you need to domething else to convince me, or you need to convince others to lynch into me/Pandain/debears if that's where you are heading at.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 22 2013 17:29 GMT

#3816

On September 23 2013 02:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
it should be obvious that rayn is lying when he expects us to believe there is doctor/cop/vet/mason but scum team only has godfather/rb/goon in this setup. such a joke...

Yeah and Oats is trying to sell people that there is no doctor BUT there is a framer. *ding ding*
And you are doing the same thing here. :D

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 22 2013 17:35 GMT

#3818

So you are giving me two options:
1) I am SK
2) There must be a framer in this game and Pandain is mafia.

lol.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 22 2013 17:46 GMT

#3821

On September 23 2013 02:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
sn0_man being afk this long seems like a decent sign though, he might have just given up after looking that its impossible for him not to be lynched

I don't believe there is a framer. Godfather alove vs a weak cop is enough and given that there are 2 anti-town players amongst non-scum makes it far more likely there is no framer. The cop is basically useless if there is a framer.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 22 2013 18:12 GMT

#3823

On September 23 2013 02:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
a 1/14 chance makes a role useless but somehow a framer hitting one of you or pandain is asinine/stupid/etc

Survivor/SK usually balance each other out since one tends to play for the winning side and the other plays for the losing side.

That leaves us with 4 blue PRs vs 2 scum PRs. No game that I know of has ever had that. If you are truly the doctor, then you would discuss the options more of a framer, but you aren't.

that's why I don't believe you, in a nutshell. If I'm wrong then so be it, but it logically doesn't make sense to me.

My problem is that when i believeably lay out a succesful doctor save (unless both scum and SK hit Umasi), my scumreads instantly go "fuck, there must be a framer! Pandain still 100% scum kthxbye" without thinking any other possibilities.

That's what you/Oats have been doing this phase. That, or calling me SK and therefore Pandain scum.
For you, why is it impossible that Oats/Grack/Sno is 2 scum + SK? Why is the framer ONLY solution to what has happened (assuming i am doctor)?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 22 2013 18:29 GMT

#3825

On September 23 2013 03:15 VayneAuthority wrote:

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Because frankly, I am tunneling since pandain is lurking and you aren't making sense to me. I did outline all the scenarios and pandain seems like the safest bet to me as I explained. I don't enjoy that you are ignoring that.

I can admit I am somewhat tunneling but I definitely have reason to. You have made this game impossible for me whether you are town or scum by calling me scum the entire game.

I have not called you scum the entire game. I started calling you scum when you started making strange conclusions that made zero sense.

After all, i really do not think there is a framer, because that seems impossible to me. You also called debears claim fake, and when people disagreed with it you went from it to "okay then there has to be framer". That to me seems like you are just trying to cover your own ass without making people "confirmed town". You think objectively as town, and while your reads are sometimes weird you start making sense at some point in the game. Now you are not really making sense.

I tried to analyze the all possible situations @ D3 start by bringing in vote analysis and stuff. I would expect you to join into the discussion if you were town (as you were there at that time). You didn't.

Theses are the things that make me think you are scum.

But it doesn't matter now, we look at the game again when Snodude flips SK. Before that i have pretty much nothing to say.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 22 2013 19:00 GMT

#3828

On September 23 2013 03:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
I never called debears claim fake >> I have said it was real the entire game! Lying is bad!

I analysed the votes, I have quoted the post multiple times, lying is bad!

why are all your reasons that im scum based on lies?

Your posts around the claim imply so. You want to out more blues.
Yes, and your game now revolves around there being a framer, and not re-analyzing the situation.

You stick to the conclusion and make the game adapt to your reads instead of adapting to what has happened in the game. If you are town and there is a framer then you were right and i was wrong, the cop role was useless in this game and no can do. If there is no framer as i assume and you are town it's your fault if you can't adapt to the situation and look at the game from a fresh perspective.