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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 20:24 GMT
#1079
i like pandain's posting from the second half of the cycle a lot more than i did in the first half of the cycle. he's still going after easy thread-consensus targets (zealos, old partner, kush) but his reasoning for those attacks makes more sense to me from a townie POV. I don't want to lynch him anymore either.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 20:35 GMT
#1092
k i would rather lynch zealos than kush if we're lynching someone who is not fully participating. zealos hasn't just posted very little - he did that in all three of his town games i looked at - but he's also barely engaged with anything happening in thread. And unlike kush, that's out of the ordinary for him. in his most recent game, half his filter was in code or some shit, but in both of his previous town games before that, he had short filters which nevertheless actually engaged the thread much more than he has here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=378069&user=Zealos&view=all
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383489&user=zealos&view=all
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 20:38 GMT
#1094
It looks like I'm not going to manage a rayn lynch in the next hour and a half. I still think Rayn is scum. But I would much rather lynch zealos than kush.

##unvote
##vote: zealos
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:00 GMT
#1118
Ryan what about lynching zealos instead of kush
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:01 GMT
#1119
Or can someone make a case on blurb for me
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:10 GMT
#1123
I just reread through old partners filter. I don't have a super food reason why he's town but I don't want to lunch him... It's just, like, I really don't see any good reason why he's scum either. It seems like lynching him would be a policy Lynne on his new attempted playstyle. I'd rather lynch zealos or Ryan whose play seems to me scum motivated / to match their scum meta better than their town meta.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:12 GMT
#1125
On September 14 2013 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 06:01 strongandbig wrote:
Or can someone make a case on blurb for me

That's what bothers me on blub lynch. There is no real case... It's a set of some posts which are not really scummy, they are just bad.


Grack said something I liked, but I'm on my phone now. Give me a asc
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:13 GMT
#1126
On September 14 2013 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 06:10 strongandbig wrote:
I just reread through old partners filter. I don't have a super food reason why he's town but I don't want to lunch him... It's just, like, I really don't see any good reason why he's scum either. It seems like lynching him would be a policy Lynne on his new attempted playstyle. I'd rather lynch zealos or Ryan whose play seems to me scum motivated / to match their scum meta better than their town meta.

uhh.. you are seriously arguing lynching me over OP on D1? I mean, you have no reason to believe OP is town, and i am hard to read for you...

I decided you're scum for keeping harping about things that are obviously either wrong or blown out of proportion. But I can tell I'm not getting you lunched today so lets move on for the next 40 minutes at least.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:19 GMT
#1130
Ok maybe it wasn't grack. Someone said something about blhbb not caring whether his scum read hot lynched or someone else who he was null on, and how he kept saying he wasn't trying to derial some wagon.

Anyway I can't give you a strong argument against the old pants lynch, I just feel like there's not a good argument for it other than "his playstyle isn't aggressive enough"
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:21 GMT
#1131
On September 14 2013 06:14 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 06:13 strongandbig wrote:
On September 14 2013 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 14 2013 06:10 strongandbig wrote:
I just reread through old partners filter. I don't have a super food reason why he's town but I don't want to lunch him... It's just, like, I really don't see any good reason why he's scum either. It seems like lynching him would be a policy Lynne on his new attempted playstyle. I'd rather lynch zealos or Ryan whose play seems to me scum motivated / to match their scum meta better than their town meta.

uhh.. you are seriously arguing lynching me over OP on D1? I mean, you have no reason to believe OP is town, and i am hard to read for you...

I decided you're scum for keeping harping about things that are obviously either wrong or blown out of proportion. But I can tell I'm not getting you lunched today so lets move on for the next 40 minutes at least.

He's clearly not scum~

Did you read game of thrones? Ryan's not doing anything this game that he can't and hasn't done as scum. And a lot of what he's been doing this game is nitpicking on things that don't deserve the attention he's been giving them, and misinterpreting things / blowing them out of proportion.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:40 GMT
#1158
Panda why do you say zealos is not going to happen. There are enough people active for a last minute vote switch to work. No one has said they're strongly against a zealos lunch. How about everyone who would be okay win zealos rather than old partner just switch now and can squelch back in ten minutes if it doesn't reach majority.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:41 GMT
#1159
Can someone on blubb please tell me wbg you're on him?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:42 GMT
#1162
On September 14 2013 06:35 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 06:34 Pandain wrote:
On September 14 2013 06:32 Koshi wrote:
Ahhhhh fucking screw it.

But I think Kush is Isaac. (he better is not a blue role)

Because he asked mods about fake role names apparently. + he commented twice on it.

Don't lynch Kush.


Actually that's another good point. He said that scum are given fake claims.

There's no way he actively asked the OP about such a random matter when it's clear he doesn't give a shit about the game in thread


What about this Rayn? Isn't this inherently more suspicious than whatever you feel about OP?

He easily could have asked if his role was actually Isaac as koshi suggested
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:43 GMT
#1164
On September 14 2013 06:42 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 06:40 strongandbig wrote:
Panda why do you say zealos is not going to happen. There are enough people active for a last minute vote switch to work. No one has said they're strongly against a zealos lunch. How about everyone who would be okay win zealos rather than old partner just switch now and can squelch back in ten minutes if it doesn't reach majority.

I still think this guy is scum. He's flipping from person to person who he feels are easy targets.

If you're gonna write lots, at least try to look like you're being useful~

How am I flipping. I want to lynch you and Ryan. Where have I flopped.

Plus how in the fuck is Ryan an easy target. About the hardest in this thread judging by sheer aggressiveness and willingness to omgus heavily
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:44 GMT
#1168
On September 14 2013 06:43 Pandain wrote:
Look at the VOTES. They don't make SENSE. They are SUDDEN and LAST MINUTE, with those posts being out of the blue in regards to your filter. Doesn't mean they're all mafia but it indicates that OP is probably not.

SnB, me, Rayn, Zelos, Koshi are active. Without anyone pushing actively, Zealos isn't going to be lynched.
Will you switch your vote than to kush at 5 minutes before?

No. I think kush is town and I have no read on op.

I would consider switching to blubb if someone would make a fucking case on him. Or even link me to one. I want a case to evaluate.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:50 GMT
#1176
On September 14 2013 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah Pandain is either town or really good scum. I don't trust his read on kush / OP however.
SnB how am i OMGUSing?

You didn't start thinking I was scum until I posted this


On September 13 2013 03:18 strongandbig wrote:
Hey guys

Posting from phone in class

Posting notes:
+ Show Spoiler +


Partner wants to know if I have a scum read on koshi

I don't like pandaman's role name reasoning. No reason hosts can't mix up the roles or give scum safe fake claims. Also from his post his opinions are basically easy ones - kush needs to straighten up. No lurking. Super scummy opening post IMO.

Then in his next post grack makes a decent attack but twists pandaman's argument - he didn't say lynch grack cause he's bad. He said lunch grack cause he's noncommittal.

Ppl talking about me finding debears smurf slip as coach. I clicked profile and last posts on his account. Not very hard to do.

I like Ryan's first four posts/entry into the thread. Okay wait maybe not - rayne is quibbling about old partners questions with koshi but asking about stupid things...

Rayen says that good karma looks good about the early day 1 quarrel - wtf where did this come from...

Ryan's reasons for saying that grack is scum are also terrible. And he keeps going on about panda in being better than old partner but they just feel completely different...

Anyway non rayne notes.

Fracks case on blubbdavod interesting . Go reread.

Wtf is up with snoman yelling about onegu



Here's the thing with Ryan. He argues and gets in people's faces and posts a million times as either alignment. The biggest difference is when he's scum he argues about things that don't matter and don't move the town forward, but when he's town he actually pushes on points that are important. Just compare his scum filter from game of thrones and compare that to his town filter from aperture 2, the difference is obvious.

My first reaction is "this is scum Ryan". He's arguing a lot about old partners questions from early in the game but he's finding quibbles and there's no way what koshi thinks of those questions is remotely worth the amount of text Ryan puts in. Ditto for the arguing about whether grack could really have changed his mind for the reasons he said.

I'm not sure about rayne though. For me it's always hard to figure him out for sure because of how constantly interactive he is even as scum.

One other thing - I think panda in is scum. His post was that bad and opening posts are inportant. He had only easy scum opinions - lunch kush, lurkers bad - in that post. plus he has obviously bad reasoning on role names and bad justification for his town reads on me, va, and gk. like, what townie sees someone whose only comment on the main issues in the thread was "that's silly" and says "oh yes that guy is town, the whole thread really was a distraction." Plus I don't think vayne was moving the thread forward as much as shouting at people/being aggro, and it was really easy for me to click on papasmirf's profile button. None of those strike me as townie reasons for townreads.

Right now I want to lynch pandaman's. however, before I vote I want to reread the blurb case as well.

Anyway I have a problem set due tmo so I'm probably not gonna be voting until tomorrow morning.



And your initial reason for calling me scum was that you disagreed with my case. I would clearly not have come to your attention at all if I hadn't made an attack on you.

Everything you have said against me since then has been tunneling, misinterpreting and overstating aspects of my posts based on the either intentional (if you are scum) or subconscious (if you are town) preconceived decision that I'm scum.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:51 GMT
#1177
Look people in thread vote zealos. We can still make it happen
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:53 GMT
#1180
Pandaind come on vote zealos. Kush isn't happening, people either have town reads on him or are on OP.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:53 GMT
#1183
Pandain if its between old partner and zealos why not vote zwalos
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 13 2013 21:54 GMT
#1186
On September 14 2013 06:53 Pandain wrote:
I am more inclined to have someone vig Zealous instead.

We don't know of we have vigs. And you want that even if it means op gets lunched?
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